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I would imagine for most peeps who are against the death penalty are disgusted by state sanctioned murder, regardless of how sympathetic (or not) the inmate actually is.

It is murder; MiamiBoyz is absolutely right. 'execution' is a euphemism that minimizes the act, and when it occurs - no matter where it occurs, it diminishes us a species

I suspect the 'they knew they risks going in' crowd are at least in part reacting to the hypocrisy of criticizing a non-Western nation for killing people when the US (leader of the world or so they like to think) also engage in the same practice with impunity. (love the list posted by aka123, that's some great company in which the US finds itself).

As to the notion that aid given to Indonesia should mean that Aussie prisoners should be granted leniency, bullshit. The death penalty is wrong, being born into a wealthy nation that's in the position to grant aid funding shouldn't elevate their importance above any other prisoner who faces the same fate.

Speaking to the issue raised about Australia's own abuses, I don't really see a parallel. Human rights abuses are wide spread (hell, both Canada and the US engage in similar conduct) and unacceptable, but a human rights violation in one nation shouldn't cancel out a violation in another. Both are wrong. Both deserve outrage.

I can't fathom what the families of the Bali prisoners are going through right now, they must feel like they're living a nightmare

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Originally Posted by JesseQuinn (Post 20396802)

I suspect the 'they knew they risks going in' crowd are at least in part reacting to the hypocrisy of criticizing a non-Western nation for killing people when the US (leader of the world or so they like to think) also engage in the same practice with impunity. (love the list posted by aka123, that's some great company in which the US finds itself).

As to the notion that aid given to Indonesia should mean that Aussie prisoners should be granted leniency, bullshit. The death penalty is wrong, being born into a wealthy nation that's in the position to grant aid funding shouldn't elevate their importance above any other prisoner who faces the same fate.

Speaking to the issue raised about Australia's own abuses, I don't really see a parallel. Human rights abuses are wide spread (hell, both Canada and the US engage in similar conduct) and unacceptable, but a human rights violation in one nation shouldn't cancel out a violation in another. Both are wrong. Both deserve outrage.

:2 cents::2 cents:

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Originally Posted by GAMEFINEST (Post 20396175)

hard lesson learned.

After bullet hits the bone, lesson endeth :2 cents:

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Originally Posted by RandyRandy (Post 20396473)

It's getting play in Malaysia. Considering they have the same drug laws here (1oz of pot = death penalty) you can figure out that they are siding with their Indonesian counterparts.

Also getting play is that the Australian Gov't is hypocritical here because they never supported these guys until the last minute when it's too late.

That and everyone knows the risk/reward of the game, yo.

The Gov has supported them in helping them to reform themselves, ie they provided the contacts and information to enable to do what they have done.

The last President did not execute anyone AFAIK.

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Originally Posted by RandyRandy (Post 20396479)

Little chance of that. The 2005 bombing in Bali that killed almost 100 Aussies didn't deter the throngs from going to Bali. Neither did the fact that 36 of the people convicted in that case walked out of prison last year and are free.

This...

Australians died in the 2005 bombing in Bali, and Indonesia's corrupt judicial system has let the bulk of the puckers that planted and/or help plant/make the pucken bombs walk.

Spend your money in Australia, see Australia first, if you live in oz you would have seen this add.

Why spend a pucken dollar in Indonesia or Bali.. Tourists die in that shit hole of a country all the time, mugged, r4ped, drugged and the press hardly run any of those stories, ohh we cannot offend our neighbours the Indonesians, noo we cannot have that, give me a pucked break.

Say what you will, but it is Indonesian law, And to have Tony Abbott speaking to the press saying that ohh but when Indonesia got wiped out by that big pucken wave and needed help, Australia gave them a billion and a half dollars. Now Australia need a favor and would like to ask Indonesia not to kill these 2 puckers, i mean really, these 2 drug smugger lives are worth a billion and a half pucken dollars, un pucken believable.

:disgust

the fact they did it before means they took a calculated risk. Good riddance. Drugs hurt millions and destroy communities.

Try living in a drug riddled community in 3rd world Indonesia and see if you still want these guys to be released.

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Originally Posted by scottybuzz (Post 20397751)

spoons make people fat! ban spoons!...truth be told, drugs do not hurt millions...millions hurt themselves...it is a choice...

its just easier to blame traffickers than ourselves...

good nite six feet down under mate :Oh crap

Damn! 50 bullets in the chest.