I'm not sure I understand what you're trying to say. Can you be a little more clear?

Sure Beehive invention nets $2 million

Well ok GFY never showed me much love anyway, even after finding the Acacia prior art in 2004, and you already know what I know, and you know that nobody left here gives a shit, so what? You are REALLY that bored and destructive?

browski... he is saying why you calling him 5 other identities? Ya know...

ok so u r that bored :P

So am I been watching The Voice premiere with my kid on DVR

I'm watching Appalachian Outlaws on the History Channel and uploading videos to my server while watermarking other videos. During commercials I check this thread and others. It's 2:30 am and I will not be done with my daily tasks until 4 am. Then up at 10-11, quick breakfast and back to work.

Am I a real Adult Webmaster? Shah.

No I actually don't know what you mean, and now I'm even more confused after your reply. How am I being destructive? The only thing I've gathered from what you have said so far is that you believe gfy hasn't shown you love...

Anyways, enjoy your show

How do you find that enjoyable? You clearly had money to buy out those other programs, did you look into investing in any other businesses first before settling on adult?

Not my show told you I been watching The Voice premiere with my kid on DVR, thats why on my phone on GFY lol :P

It's not the glamorous life but it's how we roll yo! :D

How do I find doing what I want, when I want to, and working on building something that is MINE instead of selling my life away for a weekly salary while I build something for someone else? Hmmm, let me think about it for a little bit here....

Smoke some doobs, fuck my pornstar girlfriend when she wakes up, take a few hours off to go do some shopping for the house (and making money while I do so), not answering to anyone since I'm the Boss...yup, tough life. Worth every second I've ever spent in front of a computer monitor.

And I bought one Program. It made sense to add to my Network. Sometimes growing something is better than starting something new, sometimes not. Depends on the Investment.

(Or did you mean how can I find Appalachian Outlaws enjoyable? Man those people are motherfucking insane! Good times.)

Hell yeah Hoss!!

Idiot :321GFY

As other people have told you in this thread, those places exist, but you have to be invited.

GFY still has a lot of business going on, and is a great place to look for employees.

The people that actually do make money realize that it is becoming increasingly difficult and therefore are not interested in sharing their secrets.

You obviously want someone to tell you to do X, Y and Z. That's great, but considering your join date, what do you have to offer in return? I'm guessing not too much.

great advice
 

Starting out i always found great advice on this site !

Uh Uh. Been around for a long long time.

No one wants to share secrets...bingo...you are right. I too am not interested in sharing my secrets. I am however interested in discussing the merits of different program offerings with like minded webmasters/program owners with similar experience. No secrets revealed by either party... just solid business discussions.

For example, last week I asked if anyone had done any testing between Pay Per Order and Percentage payments with AFF. I also stipulated that I was looking for opinions from people who were clearing at least 10 paid memberships per day. Anything less, I do not feel would offer any statistically significant data. Would we share anything that would reveal our traffic or advertising strategies, uh uh.

I am a member of another forum where people discuss google and bannings. Same problem there. You will get a thread where webaster A says they were banned. Then Webmaster A goes on to say that they were banned for reason x. And then all the other members jump on board, assuming that if they too do x then y will happen. Could they be right, maybe. But would the opinions provided by webmasters with large networks offer a more statistically significant and potentially correct cause and effect. Yep.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

I stand correct :)

I got started in adult in 2003 and it became my only source of income by 2005. I have used GFY as a business source since the beginning. I just hired a writer I found here. I used a designer I found here. I just coded something for someone who found me here.

If you don't think business is getting done here you are a tool. You only make it obvious that you are clueless and know nothing about how to do business on an adult webmaster board.

100 real webmasters!!!

101 l333ttttttttttt w3bm@st3rs

You need to stop being a little bitch and taking every comment as a direct personal attack on your manhood.

I clearly asked and I quote so you don't get confused "did you look into investing in any other businesses first before settling on adult?"


Now how did you take "investing in any other business" as me suggesting you go find a 9-5 job working for "the man" ?

Bingo


Speaking for myself , I stopped assisting people awhile ago with specifics as it bit me in the ass 2 many times....

Ill help in a general way but no way in hell will I ever reveal anything thats relevant

Mogwai rocks!

SOS there still are alot of people lurking and reading ...maybe not ass much as 10 years ago but hey are in the shadows

Demanding answers does not get you answers.

Providing value does.

Give it a whirl.

id love to give you a whirl in my "playroom"

Well, since you began by defending the OP's position do not expect to switch to a serious business discussion mid-thread. Also, check the time I posted that (very late at night).

I also said this: "And I bought one Program. It made sense to add to my Network. Sometimes growing something is better than starting something new, sometimes not. Depends on the Investment."

But if you would like me to elaborate I will. When somoeone offers you a business that is producing revenue, and you calculate that in a few months you will get paid back and then it's pure profit moving forward, you grab it (if you can afford it). With mainstream the initial investment is usually much higher and you can expect to recoup your initial investment in 12-36 months. THEN it's profitable. So when presented with the opportunity to buy a successful, revenue-producing Program I went for it.

Do I also have mainstream investments? Sure I do (real estate, stocks, a couple small business ventures). One has nothing to do with the other. Does that better answer the question?

And I answered the way I did because this thread - and your position - is comparing working full-time in Adult to a basic 9-5 job and what percentage here on GFY does which. Maybe you need to not get confused dude.

Getting back to the original question...

In my experience, when it comes to business advice there is a better signal to noise ratio on xbiz dot net.

Thanks. Appreciated

The real webmasters of GFY have a secret forum that requires a special invitation with username an password to access. They will no doubt reach out to you if you are worthy. You are worthy aren't you?
If you have not received this invitation, you have your answer. In that case, try answer.com.

First rule of secret gray text forum - never talk about secret gray text gfy forum!