Originally Posted by pornmasta (Post 20403492)

i'm curious to see the real photos of the members of this forum...

Originally Posted by Pwmp (Post 20403214)

Ive been lifting for a while.. dead lift around 400, bench 220 or so.. my thing is I'm 6'2 and 290 right now. Im not some beer belly porn slanger lol but ive got about 50 lbs i need to cut. Everybody i talk to says eat 4,000 cals a day to bulk up.. im like 290 i think im already bulked up, i just want to cut up some.. I been on about 2,000 cals a day.. mostly protien foods.. eggs and sasuage for breakfast, beans cornbread for dinner, very small snacks in bewteen(fruit, tuna, veges) sup. wise I take the 6star creatine, whey protien about 90 grams a day (on top of the 50 grams from food)

On lifting everyone says lift one day, take the next off and so on.. for muscle recovery.. the average person that would make sense.. I sit in my office daily from about 8am to 11pm working on here, so it seems to me that that would help muscle recovery somewhat where i dont do anything with my muscles other than type. I lifted a hour yesterday heavy lifts bench, heavyweight squats and some curls.. arms was jello when i was done.. today, arms feel fine, not much pain and feel like i could go right back and lift another hour no problem... all i get is if you lift daily, you wont gain shit muscle or cut wise.. any useful imput here?

fuck.. that was way long.. nobody gonna read all this lol

Originally Posted by Pwmp (Post 20403711)

Upped my calorie intake today going to stick with it. meat and some veggies, can of tuna chicken etc. at 180g of protien now and sipping off my last shake. got ballsy lifting and put 220 on the bar.. was able to break it, bring it down and rack for 1 rep. Not sure how eating more cals & meals (even if they are mostly protein based) is going to help me cut weight but everybody ive talked too says thats the thing to do lol. if it dont work fuck it back to the drawing board

Originally Posted by arock10 (Post 20403650)

any tips for home/free weight workout?

Originally Posted by arock10 (Post 20403650)

any tips for home/free weight workout?

Originally Posted by bronco67 (Post 20403574)

Originally Posted by aka123 (Post 20403576)

My fake tattood arm at the summer of 2013.

http://www.teensforlust.com/pictures/arm.jpg

Originally Posted by Choopa Phil (Post 20404003)

#gainz

http://gymtrainlift.com/wp-content/u...ains-begin.jpg

Originally Posted by Choopa Phil (Post 20404013)

Yea it was me...I figured someone would say something like that lol. Did a couple cycles back in my college days but that was over 6 years ago and I didnt know what a good diet was. Now that that has changed and I educated myself on proper nutrition and training my physique has been better than ever. Diet is really 90% of the game...anyone can go and move weights around

Originally Posted by aka123 (Post 20404026)

Although for regular gym guy, the diet is not that important; especially if you already eat healthy. Most get already enough protein and food in general. Although not that many get it from healthy diet.

You need most protein if you exercise every day and kinda break you muscles. As your body needs big amounts of protein just to fix your muscles. Taking more easy, you need "extra" protein mostly just to grow muscles. Although there is of course some repairing always, even if you don't exercise.

The limit really comes your genes/qualities by birth, unless you take steroids and such. But of course you have to exercise to get to your limit.

Originally Posted by aka123 (Post 20404026)

Although for regular gym guy, the diet is not that important; especially if you already eat healthy. Most get already enough protein and food in general. Although not that many get it from healthy diet.

You need most protein if you exercise every day and kinda break you muscles. As your body needs big amounts of protein just to fix your muscles. Taking more easy, you need "extra" protein mostly just to grow muscles. Although there is of course some repairing always, even if you don't exercise.

The limit really comes your genes/qualities by birth, unless you take steroids and such. But of course you have to exercise to get to your limit.

Originally Posted by Choopa Phil (Post 20404057)

It really depends on what your goals are. I just go to the gym and follow my diet closely. If you want to make progress you must always change your diet and lifting routine once your body becomes acclimated to it. Hitting your "natural limit" is extremely extremely difficult. Your body not only needs protein for muscle repair but also carbohydrates/glycogen as fuel along with a proper balance of fats for your natural hormone support.

Originally Posted by aka123 (Post 20404069)

No matter how much you exercise, at the end your own testosterone production limits your capabilities, even though more muscle mass will somewhat increase the testosterone production to preserve it.

Of course with serious efforts you can squeeze more, at least to some point, but if there is no other limit, it is that you age and eventually die. The results become so diminishing small even with big efforts that you will die before you become true Hulk. Assuming that you don't use any substances.

For regular guy; they won't even try to push that far (usually to start with). When the results start to diminish due to limit what their body produces testosterone, it is pretty much it.

Originally Posted by Choopa Phil (Post 20404072)

Ive been in the game for about 8 years so far and continue to make changes albeit mass, muscle density or muscle maturity. You always are changing and progressing. Im only 30 years old so I still some gas left in the tank and in the best shape of my life. I was 120lbs when I started working out at 192 right before I was injured. Was out of the gym for 8 months, dropped down to 175 now back at 185 after being back for a month. Results typically diminish due to improper nutrition and not training hard enough, not testosterone (although this does start to take its toll with age)... its extremely hard to reach that limit.

Originally Posted by aka123 (Post 20404080)

The limit isn't of course same for everybody, and if I didn't get it wrong, you use some substances too. Also, the ones with low limit, probably quit the gym quite soon. You know, if you are sucky runner, you probably don't plan it as your career to start with.

Personally I target about the muscle mass I have in that pic. At some point I used to have a decent amount more, but I started to look too Hulk like. Also, the Hulk look is not that good in many professions, I have to think that too. And most of the chicks either don't like the Hulk look. They like the Brad Pitt look and such.

Originally Posted by Juicy D. Links (Post 20404074)

Anybody wants to take some Quest bars off my hands lmk ... I got cookie sn cream and choco chip

Originally Posted by Pseudonymous (Post 20404229)

You ever make your own homemade protein bars Phil? Theres some great recipes out there, i like the refrigerated type.

oatmeal, peanut butter, chocolate gainer/whey isolate , milk is a good base for any homemade protein bar and makes your protein/gainer powder last forever

i typically add some banana/cinnamon in there to make them better

Originally Posted by aka123 (Post 20404236)

I didn't even know that egg whites are also sold separely (from the egg), although google shows that it is sold in here too. So, what you do with that?

Originally Posted by Choopa Phil (Post 20404240)

I mix it with walden farms calorie free chocolate syrup and drink it instead of having whey protein shakes. Whole foods > Supplements

Originally Posted by Choopa Phil (Post 20404235)

Sure have, this is the recipe I've used -

2 cups Roasted Oats - just take oats and put them in the oven at 350 for about 5-7 minutes
1/4 cup Wheat Flour
1 cup Protein Powder
3/4 cup Natural Peanut butter
1/3 cup Honey (I usually add slightly more than 1/3 just to keep the bars more chewy and soft)
1/3 cup Apple Sauce w/ Cinnamon
1/2 teaspoon Vanilla Extract
Add extra Cinnamon to taste

Mix in a bowl till all ingredients mixed, press into a 9x9 baking sheet lined with parchment paper, bake @ 350 for 4-5 minutes (time varies depending on oven)

Originally Posted by aka123 (Post 20404250)

So, how good is the egg white's protein profile? Isn't whey protein top notch in that category? What about the price?

Originally Posted by Choopa Phil (Post 20404259)

Egg whites have a higher bioavailability of a whey. Whey is the left over from cheese manufacture which used to be thrown out. Now we consume it :1orglaugh. I try and stay away from it as much as possible sticking with whole food sources for protein other than immediately post workout. Ill drink and cook about 32oz/Day which is about 25-30 egg whites @ $3.59/carton

As for that recipe it is not required that you bake it. Also if you bake it for 3-4 minutes only it does not actually bake more or less just sets to a more solid bar

Originally Posted by aka123 (Post 20404281)

Around here curd is most popular whole pood protein, acting as a some sort of a supplement. Not that different from whey protein (through manufacture), although the whey is mostly separated from the curd during manufacture; as the liquid whey is rinsed away. Still, curd has quite much protein.

I don't shy away from whey protein, I don't keep it as very artificial.