Yes when I read that I was incorrect but the statement 'Less likely to be unemployed' means you're more likely to be employed, hence, have a job. :clown:clown

And the % of the population of Russia within the artic circle is?
Take a look at average winter temps in Chicago/Minneapolis, it's -20 or something stupid.


I'm not knocking any country, I'm just pointing out you cant think that more than a few% live in trailers.

US property, outside of the large cities is cheap, so people can afford decent housing.

Russia usually get listed as an expensive place to live, or maybe that's just Moscow

A good quality wooden house is the best for a cold environment. That's why most of the houses in Scandinavia are wooden.

Confirmed HIV mortality in the USA vs Russia per 100,000 population

http://i.imgur.com/kQ0GuyN.png

Must be that free healthcare

or


something in the water

http://i.imgur.com/sjvJnCS.png

http://i.imgur.com/9lfjHeQ.png


:1orglaugh

Exactly. Only Moscow/Spb and other big cities are very expensive. On the other hand, I've bought a house for my mom in a village on Volga she lives at when she was a child, for only about $5000 dollars. That's a rather good mulch-room house with gas heating, cable Internet etc (has nothing to do with that Alabama shit ones I've posted above) which is good to live 365 days a year. If fact, my mom and father live there on summer time only and move fort a winter to their Moscow apartments.

Right. But wooden house in Scandinavia or in Russia is not the same as in Alabama :)

Must be heroine, clown. Don't fuck with a junkie. Bust still the rates are about the same. Enjoy the actual stats: HIV/AIDS - people living with HIV/AIDS - Country Comparison - TOP 100 :clown

http://ttolk.ru/wp-content/uploads/2...82%D0%B0-2.gif

P.S Don't forget that the US citizens have to pay for the HIV tests (about 30% can't even afford it once a year) while they are absolutely free in Russia.

Aristotle, Logic :thumbsup:thumbsup:winkwink:

Yeah, must be a free medicine. BTW, the HIV treatment in Russia is also 100% free and is being paid for by the government. Got something to answer, you 1st-world clown? :clown

http://www.therightplanet.com/wp-con...dents-debt.jpg



you are obviously doing just fine :thumbsup its amusing to see north koreans and americans defend the un-defendable :1orglaugh

ok I must stop being cruel to americans its not their fault...go back to your "best education in the world" LOL and believe in your supreme leader regardless of the bubble life you are living...things will work out fine you can just print more money until you need larger calculators :1orglaugh

Yet the average American net worth is over $300,000


I tried to find the average russian net worth here but I guess the don't list 3rd worlders :sadcrying




:clown

so let me get this str8...you make a huuuuuuuuuuuuuuuge bubble and you calculate your net worth based on the bubbble you created?

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

typical north korean...incapable of seeing anything wrong at all :1orglaugh

By bubble you mean debt? Listen my little 3rd world friend, established, capitalist economies take on debt. Those low interest loans fuel capitalism and entrepreneurship. Debt is not necessarily a problem if you have the income to cover it. Learn about debt to GDP and debt to income ratios.

See, if russia would stop defaulting on its debt, you just might be able to get someone to loan you money at a halfway decent interest rate :1orglaugh

you took on 6+trillion$ debt in the last 8 years...its obviously functioning marvelously :1orglaugh

the 6trillion debt shows how baller your economy is, its an obvious sign of strength and so are the north korean ski resorts and the lonely ass hotel in the middle of pyong yang :1orglaugh

here is the american economy in a nut shell:

1) press the $ sign on your keyboard
2) put in any number between 1-9
3) now add zeroes until you have trillions
4) declare successful economic model and teach others how its done

:1orglaugh

It's a bit stupid to calculate health care in dollars. Somewhere health is priceless and medicine is free, but not in your North Korea of course :winkwink:

That clown is happy with the US GDP which is being calculated based on the enormous military expenses. More money for military and coffins for the US soldiers => bigger GDP. Read what he wrote about the outstanding US unemployment rate. The mofo is a real idiot :1orglaugh

Life Expectancy:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...Expectancy.png


Where are those "health is priceless and medicine is free" places you are talking about?

what you do not understand is that most americans do not understand free healthcare as a concept...its like explaining colour to the blind...


what else to expect from a country that is not capable of commercial production on its own soil? they have to introduce suicide nets in china to make a US iphone for 1000$ :1orglaugh

we are being mean to americans and poking them when they are in such shit :1orglaugh

Depends on: the year of calculation and inclusive of war zones. E.g. Northern Caucasus adds a lot to the average homicide rate and lifer expectancy in Russian Federation (the bunches of Muslim radicals got killed there every day). But if you compare NYC with Moscow, you will see that lifer expectancy there is the same and homicide/rape rate in Moscow is much lower than in NYC. Surprised? :winkwink:

Here you go: www.m24.ru/articles/40225 - the average lifer expectanc here is 79,7. Oops again, ah? ;)

I guess the joke is on all of us 1st world capitalists who outsource to 3rd world countries. I guess we're doing wrong!! :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

How do they do it in russia? Maybe the US can drop its 1st world status, cut our GDP down 85% and join russia in the 3rd world :1orglaugh

serbia...

look at your map we have the same life expectancy
our health care is ranked above or up to par with the USA
its free or if you want to go private heres some prices:

testosterone depot 1ml=1$
antibiotic 1 box = 1$
lung surgery (privately paid in bona fide clinic) 300$
tooth in private bona fide dentist 10$
compilcated maxiofascial surgery behind the eye from head of surgery himself with private hospital stay all inclusive 3000$<----I did not want to wait one month to have a tumor examined and removed by the same guy for free...

we are a war torn 3rd world decades under sanctions SHIT HOLE...now tell me again: what is your excuse :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Are you still here clown? Tell me more about the US unemployment rate please :1orglaugh

china is not 3rd world...3rd world refers to non-aligned countries...

having to outsource production is not exactly a sign of strength...let me break it down to you:

your economy is so "efficient" that you have to hire chinamen to produce a 1000$ phone...it is IMPOSSIBLE for you to hire americans to do it because the phone would cost 2000$ and apple would go bust...

same goes for most former american brands that now employ more chinamen then americans :1orglaugh

hows that good for your bubble economy again? :1orglaugh

/poking north korean

ooh that'S CHEAP man !
in my country it costs 30-40 usd for tooth cavity....

That's a stupid comparison to make. Houses in Alabama don't have to be at the same level of quality because they don't really get winter. If you go to places in the US with real winter (Maine, Massachusetts, Vermont, etc.) you'll see a higher level of quality.

That's not true. The phone would still cost $1k if it was made in the US because the market wouldn't go for anything more expensive. The only thing that would change is that the profit margins wouldn't be at the insane levels they're at now.

http://i.huffpost.com/gen/301317/thu...R-large570.jpg

here is a thread saver

I am sad to say this but...the only reason you can produce a 1000$ phone in china in the first place is because china currency is kept artificially low by the china government in a suicide net factory environment...even in china you are on glass legs let alone the USA :2 cents:

steve jobbs once told obama that it would never happen that apple produces in the USA not only because of expensive labour costs but also because of work regulations and taxes ect...

you mentioned you could produce with lower profit margins...well not commercially you cant... lets consider the appeal of apple stock if US produced with lower profit margins and samsung about to rape their ass and other giants who do not have to pay huge US salaries or deal with US bullshit regulations and US bullshit lawsuits ect...where would you invest samsung or apple?

lets take the investment appeal of apple one step further and look at banks not private investors, let me explain how the banking world in the USA works, this is not speculation or my own opinion this is hard fact:

investment in the USA is speculative in nature...it is the true cancer of your society...the printed money and the riding of bubbles is the result of the banks investing in what they consider to be most profitable for them and not what is most useful for your country...investing in new jobs is risky, if you lend a group of people 100.000$ for a start-up you may never get paid back...but if you give one person 100.000$ for a house then you can take the house...ergo the housing bubble in your country btw...

single mom in 1000$ garage converted to home in silicone valley:
https://homes.yahoo.com/photos/photo...571781287.html

the point: banks are not in the business of taking risks...USA production is impossible without private investors and banks willing to invest in low profit margins...you are economically incapable of producing most of your brand name goods in the USA...

it is eating up everything in your country...education, healthcare, jobs, military, housing ect...bubble after bubble after bubble and when you put the 14trillion$ debt in the picture russia sure looks good with its cheap labour costs :Oh crap

oh really ? so why US is one of the most innovative countries in the world and it owns all major IT companies , and there are 100's if not 1000's more startups growing there every month/ year ?
come on.......

Get ready for the tears :1orglaugh

Someone should tell Tim Cook if he knows what's best for him he'd shut down Apple and move to Serbia :1orglaugh

Guess what, earlier Russians were poor, then they managed to sell lots of oil at the incredible price you, Westerns, paid. That made Russians think they now have a voice to raise. New attitude for new times. Russians simply touch your Western balls, and you don't know if it's about blowing you off or out.

The same here. According to the current rate of ruble, it will cost you about $50 USD: www.32top.ru/stat/price/294/

For that clown who loves to post pictures of non-existing "Boyarkino clinic", here are pics of Moscow dental clinics - those where you can fix a tooth for about $50 (all those are real clinics, but not some mystic images from Google in "Silent Hill" style):

http://www.32top.ru/image/Temp_Content/large/27568.jpeg

http://www.32top.ru/image/Temp_Content/large/27569.jpeg

http://www.32top.ru/tmp/image/clinic/large/32481.jpg

http://www.32top.ru/image/Temp_Content/large/27566.jpeg

http://www.32top.ru/tmp/image/clinic/large/26345.jpg

http://www.32top.ru/tmp/image/clinic/large/26347.jpg

http://www.32top.ru/tmp/image/clinic/large/26348.jpg

http://www.32top.ru/tmp/image/clinic/large/26346.jpg

http://www.32top.ru/image/Clinic/large/159460.jpg

http://www.32top.ru/image/Clinic/large/159461.jpg

Yeah, that's how a chip 3rd-world medicine is look like. Enjoy with your 1st-world GDP, unemployment rates, high taxes and $300 a month obamacare :1orglaugh

I forgot to add that in Russia you always have an alternative. You can cure caries for free. But you will have to wake up early morning, go to the nearest municipal clinic, take a ticket with a number in line and wait for a hour or two. So we prefer spend $50 in a commercial clinic to avoid this boring and time-consuming procedure (I would better pay rather to wake up at 7 o'clock like an idiot - I just love to sleep as much as I want ;))

In fact it's not anymore. China is :2 cents:

There's tons of new US start ups proving that you can manufacture within the US. Steve Jobs said it was impossible because Apple is a greedy company run by greedy people. You can manufacture them in the US, but then the executives are only making millions instead of billions. That's why they continue to outsource. It's more profitable for the people at the top to do so.

Проснулся, гандон? ( a justified 13,450 post ).

Не знаю о ком ты, но тебе бы проспаться, пьянь...

apple was a start up company too back in the day...its not about steve jobbs being greedy its about business and staying globally competitive...

startups develop and will need financing...to have an impact on the global market they need MAJOR financing...billions and billions of $$$$ need to be poured in to the system to keep up with samsung :2 cents:

it all comes back to the private investors and banks...has nothing to do with steve jobbs and his greed...private investors and banks will invest in samsung because it now has an unfair advantage over US domestic apple plain and simple: cheap as fuck labour...

let me explain even further: if a company in the USA does something altruistic, for example NOT cut its workers salaries (just an example) it will actually reflect negatively on its share price, because investors want a good investment for their pocket and not for their country...if company x moves to china and company y does not, well you do not have to be a genius investor to figure out what company has more chance of bringing you profit as an investor...

startups are inherently doomed in the USA...its ok when its a small company...and a non significant product to the market like a selfie stick...but the moment it wishes to grow in to a global company it suffers from the same cancer that all US companies suffer from: speculative investment of the market and not "humanitarian investment"...



it would be hard to be a failure with the money you print out of thin air and suicide net sweat shop production in china...I am not arguing the USA is not "successful"...you guys are giants...this is what I really believe no sarcasm...but your "success" has little to do with hard work and more to do with exporting your inflation abroad and underhand tactics and making tons of money for the very very few...

the USA is a great country for 10% of americans it really really is...

LOL @ 300$/ month obamacare, my father got lung surgery, no medical insurance whatsoever, in the top military medical academy, and a FREE preventive additional check up biopsy to another part of the lungs, that is TWO separate surgeries for 300$ ok maybe it was 350$ i do not remember :1orglaugh it was simple lung surgery it lasted like an hour but still...

I do not even have health insurance LOL...its like 50$ in my country this is some big european outfit it covers fuck all for 50$ and being that I do not get surgery every 6 months it is actually cheaper for me to be uninsured LOL...

medical insurance is some 1st world beggar crap LOL...I could get treated privately for cancer for like 500$/month here LOL...I aint pain no 50$/month pfffffff :1orglaugh

The main difference is that all Russian "hot" regions are at about the same latitude as the US "cold" ones. We don't have equivalents of Florida, Alabama or Arizona. Russian climate is very extreme. In the continental area ("средняя полоса") you may have -35 during winter and +35 during summer (in calcium). And yes, a lot of Russians live there (note the link above). Others live in even much colder places like Surgut, Severodvinsk, Norilsk, Murmansk etc.

In CELSIUS, there is no such thing as calcium in temperatures :1orglaugh