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crockett 03-14-2015 11:27 AM

The banning of vaping isn't about public health, it's about cigarette lobbyist and their money. The cig companies are trying to kill their new found competition.

Magnetron 03-14-2015 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by aka123 (Post 20418136)
That doesn't sound quite right.

I pay taxes based on my income; or more exactly the tax amount is based on my income (whether I pay it or not). I pay taxes with my own money; paying it with someone else's money would be robbery.

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Originally Posted by slapass (Post 20418138)
His point is that you wouldn't make any money without some structure. You pay for that structure. So taxes are more of a necessary expense that an necessary evil.

The fact that conservatives "think" they are happier makes sense. They are less questing and open. The fact that liberals are happier makes equal sense for the same reasons.

Would you rather have been Hugh Hefner or the Pope to use extreme examples?

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Originally Posted by aka123 (Post 20418156)
I just commented that tax thing, it was not some anti-tax, more than pro-tax comment. I understand the role of taxes and I have nothing against the concept.

I don't care that much about this liberals vs conservatives; especially as in my country we don't have that kind of divide. Though some people are more liberal/conservative than others, but people don't really identify themselves that way around here. For example I am liberal and conservative if you want to put it that way. However that doesn't make much sense and I don't identify (or build identity) myself with those adjectives.

My point is that dispensing with the notion that tax is your money that you parted with is a step towards living a life free of all this Conservative Versus Liberal bullshit.

2MuchMark 03-14-2015 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Harmon (Post 20418160)
Sounds more like something Chum Lee would say :2 cents:

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

dyna mo 03-14-2015 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by ********** (Post 20418288)
:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

You actually think that's funnier than the original? Not to mention how fucking badass I used it in context? + you are missing out on THE tom hanks classic with John candy in it as well.

Now that's funny.

Robbie 03-14-2015 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by crockett (Post 20418238)
The banning of vaping isn't about public health, it's about cigarette lobbyist and their money. The cig companies are trying to kill their new found competition.

And the govt. doesn't want people vaping because it's costing them millions of dollars in lost tax revenue since the govt. has imposed a HUGE sin tax on every pack of smokes (that's why a pack of cigarettes costs up to $7 these days).

Just goes to show ya that the govt. isn't really concerned about your health...they use that as a justification to reach into people's pockets when they buy cigarettes. And now they don't want to lose that revenue.

So now they are coming up with scare tactics to convince folks that water vapor is as dangerous as cigarette smoke and they start banning it everywhere.

No matter how you look at it...it's people in govt. thinking they can run our lives. :(

Axeman 03-14-2015 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 20418388)
And the govt. doesn't want people vaping because it's costing them millions of dollars in lost tax revenue since the govt. has imposed a HUGE sin tax on every pack of smokes (that's why a pack of cigarettes costs up to $7 these days).

Just goes to show ya that the govt. isn't really concerned about your health...they use that as a justification to reach into people's pockets when they buy cigarettes. And now they don't want to lose that revenue.

So now they are coming up with scare tactics to convince folks that water vapor is as dangerous as cigarette smoke and they start banning it everywhere.

No matter how you look at it...it's people in govt. thinking they can run our lives. :(


Absolutely correct. Government, especially at the Federal level is just a big snowball going down an endless mountain. Just gets bigger and bigger and is completely out of control.


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