This is what i thought as well.

Same .....

Absolutely NOT!

Guess she got paid

As expected she won't out the shady processor

top notch stand up industry :1orglaugh

If that's true, I guess she is OK with working with shady processor as long as she gets paid:2 cents:

I appreciate the kind words.

In that case the answer must be: trust them until they miss a payment.

Kristen,

Let me know if you need any help or advice.
Let's chat.

Mitch

so spill the beans....

I have zero clue who you are referring to, and don't even want to know. Whether it's in compliance is one thing, whether it's an ethical move is something else entirely.

Over the years, I saw it all... good, bad, downright fraud. It happens in every industry, and some people profit from it, some don't.

I'm a little puzzled as to how someone could stack cross sales on top of someone else's transactions without anyone catching on, if that's what you're insinuating. I don't recall a single site owner not seeding their own sales and running test joins with real credit cards and Gmail addresses on a regular basis to keep an eye on what their processor was doing - we do that with Apple, and they should be pretty trustworthy.

One of main reasons I left adult processing was because everyone and their dog started a processing company and running clean transactions was not making the kind of money that running less savory setups did.

why get involved with a company/person(s) like that?

we process for the adult industry, no issues and we are honest. If you allow us to help you will make it as smooth as possible, we don't waste your time. if you can help you, we would be more than happy to if not we just let you know.

David,
icard360

50 names kept secret

names have been kept secret because this was in no way a thread about morals/ethics

I'd bet money that it was just a scare thread to get someone to pay her what she is owed.

If she actually cared about the industry as her post attempts to portray, she would have outted the company :1orglaugh

Instead she probably got paid, and has left you all to unknowingly work with a shady processor who is probably using your data :2 cents:

and all the industry people jump into the thread to seriously answer her rhetorical question as if it was a genuine question haha

WiredGuy and Kimmykim posting in a thread on GFY in 2015...

WOW :2 cents:

WiredGuy and Kimmykim posting in a thread on GFY in 2015... WOW

Hope you are both doing well. :)

We don't know her reasons but it was a provocative question apparently. Not exactly rhetorical because she was looking for some kind of discussion. And some well respected elders have spoken.

:thumbsup

KRISTEN I did not read a word of your post but I do know that I would drink your bathwater :jerkoff

I haven't been to a show in 4+ years now, might make it out to something in the fall for a break but no plans really. Need to refocus on the biz, Google has not been my friend lately :Oh crap
WG

I almost never come here anymore but I do occasionally drop into a business thread or two.
WG

Thanks, its been ages since I've been around these parts :winkwink:
WG

:thumbsup
This pathetic small world industry has dug it´s own grave & you've pointed it out perfectly. Glad i got out years ago, now it's you are either a Manwin/Mindgeek slave or a bottom feeder. I have no interest in both. After starting out in mainstream, adult seems like child's play - many unprofessionals in their own small pathetic world.

Who are those? Has beens or dick riders?

There are more than the two mentioned. :2 cents: The entire affiliate model is a has-been.

So which is better; has-beens or quitters? :winkwink:

op is model fine :2 cents::2 cents:

I'm gonna have to go with the has beens here. Quitters never win. Ever.

Someone moving to greener pastures would be considered a quitter?

Why work 10x as hard for the same amount of money?

Not sure if you've noticed but this industry is cannibalizing itself.

You can tell how bad it is because the bread and butter (content) market is fucked. How many producers have you seen go broke and making borderline begging threads for people to buy their content? Offering their entire collection for prices like 199


With money/opportunities tight, people are only looking out for themselves also. Stuff they would be against back in the day seem not so bad now. Stuff like working with a shady processor may even be okay as long as they don't screw you over personally in some cases :2 cents:

I'll tell you who I wouldn't trust: some poster named K R I S T E N who opens up a can of worms by implying a cc processer is unethical then not revealing who it is simply for her own purposes even tho this info could affect many people in this Industry.

Fuck K R I S T E N.

I made a comment/joke asking if quitting was better than becoming a has been. It was rhetorical btw. She answered with one of her inspirational quotes because she knows I like that stuff.


I think you're right about that. You can tell the opportunities are slim by reading gfy. Not a whole lot of business discussion going on these days. All us mom and pop coffee shops are getting run out of business by starbucks.

:2 cents:

I don't about the rest of you, but I'm feeling some tension between Kristen and PAR.

Hopefully this gets resolved and all unethical people implode =)

proof or ban

Well PAR processes with Epoch, so maybe that's the company that K R I S T E N is referring to :2 cents:

There were some greener pastures when I was starting my business. I'm sure a regular job in my field at that time would have been easier than building a business and using my every waking moment to work on my business and spend a LITTLE time with my children in between when I could during the day. Yes there were greener pastures, but no where near as green the pasture I planted, , watered, weeded, fertilized and continue to grow.

Had I quit and went to what I THOUGHT were green pastures then, I'd never know how green the pastures could have been and would have been had I not quit.

I have not noticed the industry cannibalizing because I own a phone sex company and it's a little different. We are kind of off in our own little bubble so when something affects porn in general, it really doesn't affect what we do.

I think the point was however that these "has beens" are a great wealth of knowledge and still very respected.

Phone sex / cam sites / dating sites will always thrive because it's something you can't download to experience.

When it comes to content / pay sites / tube sites / galleries it is without a doubt every man looking out for himself and a dying business

So why are you here every day?

LoL No tension I just think that it's BS to make a thread like this when it's more than obvious it's just about some personal issue...

As for:
No clue why you are making a connection to Epoch.
I don't know what this is all about or what processor is in question.
Like I said, I just think it's BS to make a thread like this as it was obviously done for some sort of personal gain.

For the life of me I can't think of a single pay/members site she owns or runs for her to have processor related issues with any processor.

because it's entertaining here!

Hey Folks --- was out of town over the weekend and back now --- allow me to address the "Fuck Kristen" commentary and you guys thinking (and having reread the verbiage in my initial post I can understand why) that I have anything to gain personally from this ---

FYI: I don't have processing with ANYONE, have NO NEED for it, NEVER HAVE and NEVER WILL need processing so...

(1) NO ONE owes me money - no one owes me anything at the moment - that isn't what this is about - Id have my attorney handle it if someone owed me money right?!

(2) I WILL NOT SAY WHO I AM TALKING ABOUT because (a) it is not up to YOU or ME to say whether or not what they are doing is indeed against any rules or regs (b) visa, master card and a couple of other entities are getting docs this week and will make that decision

(3) BECAUSE I AM SEEING PEOPLE MAKE ASSUMPTIONS (and I suppose I opened that can of worms for you to do so) … have peace of mind that 99% of you DO NOT process with this ISO and probably do not even know who it is.

So yeah, FUCK KRISTEN for posing a question (perhaps too ominously) :1orglaugh

But your 1st post wasn't posing a question at all. Anyone, even me with basic English, can understand you were alluding to having facts on a Processor doing very shady things. Your second post confirms that your original post wasn't a question by stating "I WILL NOT SAY WHO I AM TALKING ABOUT". So both your posts have simply stated "I know something you don't!", and I'm sure that's nice, but I still don't understand why. :2 cents:

I am pretty sure that this audience (havings its fair share of mouth breathers with neckbeards, which is likely not your thing) wants to FUCK KRISTEN for entirely different reasons.

Also, you probably just forced 40 retards to google the meaning of "ominously." Bravo.

See... I told you guys it wasn't just a hypothetical question and she was specifically referring to someone

I'm sure you would go out of your way to get documents to send to mastercard and visa but have no personal vested interest

Do you often collect evidence to turn in on other companies?

Maybe you should work with Adult King on his crusade against torrents/file lockers since you have a passion for crime fighting


I wonder if any idiot here actually believes what you just wrote :1orglaugh

http://static.someecards.com/someeca...96_9241455.png

So what was the actual point of the thread? Throw some shit and see what sticks?

Sometimes it's best just to mind your own business. You don't process, you don't need a processor, you wont be putting your user data in their hands. Why do you care? What business is of yours to mind theirs?

So the only people at risk are the people who you have told they should be worried, yet you tell them you're not going to tell them who they should be scared of.

Since you said no one owes you anything "at the moment" leads people to believe that there is actually an issue going on, and that "at the moment" will change your answer of I'm not saying who to....

Spilling the beans.

I definitely question your intentions with this post as I think a lot of people are.

Just bad business.