Ah, I see his reply now. I looked at the thread when it was posted but see now that he replied yesterday.

Looks like this issue might be cleared up, by the tone of that response. Hopefully so, I always love a happy ending.

• 1/3 up front
• 1/3 at an agreed progress point
• 1/3 at final acceptance

At least you can only get burned for 1/3 that way ... either party.
Be wary of associate sellers of Amazon -- that has generated most of my returns but Amazon is good about RMAs and refunds.

:2 cents::pimp

What a clusterfuck.

http://www.madspiders.com/images/eliteweb.jpg

In this thread: https://gfy.com/mainstream-business-d...gmail-com.html

Scriptworkz answered you at around 11:00am CST.

In this thread: https://gfy.com/sell-and-buy-forum/11...gmail-com.html

At around 1:00pm CST (2 hours later) you say:

Dude, if you are gonna do the multiple thread thing then you have to know how to manage it properly, unless of course, at this point you are just trying to smear the guy and are no longer interested in getting the job done or your money back.

Just my :2 cents:

WOW never mind,, I should of stayed the fuck out of this... Seems like you freaked out for no good reason seeing the man replied several times to your several post. WOW lesson learned from me.

Fuck few scam threads a week

there is a reason every paypal payment i make is thru amx you can chargeback shit like this.

I havent opened up a paypal dispute in years amx handles all that for me :)

https://gfy.com/sell-and-buy-forum/11...gmail-com.html

I did post a follow up update to the main thread as soon as I heard from him as you can see above. He didn't reply "several times" as you mentioned. Just one time. But this was after 9 days of not hearing from him. It looks like Brandon Kagey (Eric Frye is the paypal account of his associate from what he told me whom he used to received the Paypal payment from). I listed his name as Brandon Kagey was the name in the email but there have been instances where people use fake names on GFY but their paypal account is their real name to have more privacy which makes sense.

In an case, I do apologize for not updating it in the other thread I made as sarettah mentioned, I honestly thought the 2nd scammer thread was deleted by a mod as I made 3 threads, one in Buy Sell, one in Now Hiring and another one in Business. a GFY moderator helped deleted the one in Business for me but I think he/she missed deleting the one in Now Hiring also. Either way, I apologize for not updating the second thread also.

Hopefully it gets resolved, it still doesn't change my opinion of Paypal. They are idiots because the way they handle "intangible goods" opens the door for scammers :disgust

A scammer could theoretically open a paypal account, offer something for sale digitally (fake software for example) collect payments through paypal and then not deliver it and Paypal would stand behind the scumbag and protect him. That is messed up :mad:

I should add that Brandon said that me not getting his email from him a few days ago was due to possibly being a problem on his end because I checked my inbox/spam folder and never received anything.

Brandon Kagey
3:39 PM (22 hours ago)

to me
Hey i just sent you a longer email, was gonna send from an alternative email but the mail client on my phone sent it from my standard gmail, if you get this one and not the bigger email let me know and i'll resend from a diff. account. Think there's some issue w/ this account that led to you not getting my previous email/me not seeing anything from you but i'm not sure. Hopefully you'll get it and can safely ignore this email.

:1orglaugh

i love paypal, rockin roll

Why didn't you post :

50 Mofos posting private info for no reason


:helpme

I know what you mean...it is quite ludicrous

Well, you must have actually posted it 4 times because the one that Scriptworkz replied to at 11:00am was in "Mainstream Business Discussion". You currently have copies of the thread in Mainstream, Sell and Buy and Now Hiring.

One thread here in the main forum (this one we are in right now) would have sufficed.

again just my :thumbsup

Excellent find thank you! :thumbsup

fuck you :321GFY

I sent a followup email to Paypal to explain that I even though it was for a website, I was supposed to receive it in a "flash drive/CD" to be shipped to me so technically it would not be an "intangible good" as it's something that is physically in my hands but the ass clowns

PayPal Purchase Protection only applies to PayPal payments for certain tangible, physical goods that can be shipped. We are unable to grant you a refund because your payment was for one of the following items:

Intangible items, including Digital Goods
Services
Real estate, including residential property
Businesses
Vehicles, including motor vehicles, motorcycles, caravans, aircraft and boats
Deposits made for vehicles or other items
Custom made items
Travel tickets, including airline flight tickets
Items prohibited by the PayPal Acceptable Use Policy
Items which you collect in person, or arrange to be collected on your behalf
Items that violate eBay’s Prohibited or Restricted Items Policy
Industrial machinery used in manufacturing
Items equivalent to cash, including prepaid or gift cards
PayPal Direct Payments
Virtual Terminal Payments
Personal Payments
Splitting a payment into multiple payments to pay for one item

You may also try to recover your funds outside of PayPal using other methods.


I absolutely love the last line by this clowns, I can see some guy being pissed off enough that he/she drives down to the person's house who scammed him, and killing him or doing him enough harm. That will be absolutely priceless because he can show that stupid last line of Paypal's response in court and everyone in the world can see how stupid and idiotic that last line was. Thanks for rubbing it in you Paypal clowns. Tell me now why people would use your fucking service if they have no protection against all the things you listed above that is not covered in your laughable "Purchase Protection"? :mad::mad::mad:

ps. "Custom made items".... So this would include a gold bracelet you buy from Ebay with an inscription of the person's name inside the bracelet. That would be "custom" so ooops you are shit out of luck if you bought it and you received a fake gold bracelet. (Yes I called these clowns and they confirmed this to be correct)Holy crap, does Paypal just change the rules as they please and add new things as they see fit?

Did I say E Bay and Pay Pal are the biggest pirates and thieves... Just read my post above :321GFY

I opened a Paypal case report for a digital item that didn't work properly in July 2014 and Paypal refunded the purchase price. Maybe you have to go about it a little differently...

Do I get it right ? You have bought an item, used it and then wanted your money back so you have filed a report ? That is the biggest fear of all merchants , that being customers who misuse the Pay Pal motto "steal from the big and give to the small". I do ot believe that this is what this thread is all about :helpme

Indeed. There are scammers on both sides, it is impossible to cover all that for paypal, so easier just to leave those risks. Look at it that way - if you hand out cash and get ripped off nobody is there to "referee" your money back... Risks everywhere, not possible to eliminate that.

No, you did not get it right.

same here. paypal rules and for us 3rd world country people they gave us an opportunity :thumbsup

tsk... tsk... tsk... this gives a bad reputation for us freelancers :mad:

Maybe you can clarify why I ( running a business of digital download website) should not think that you ( who may not know how to save the file properly) and goes "squeaking" to PP is not one of those " cowboys" who actually know, but to PP report fraudulent merchant....

.... The easiest way to get something for free :mad: