Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 20430697)

Looks like Germanwings is a pretty interesting company. The guy was visiting a psychiatrist for a year and a half and he was able to work as a pilot. Is that a normal thing in Germany?

Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 20430753)

new development:

when they investigated his home they found a sick certificate from his doctor - torn into pieces - for the day of the crash

so it looks like his doctor declared him unfit for flying, he saw his career in danger and thought "fuck it, let's end this"

Originally Posted by TeenCat (Post 20430764)

strange there is no good bye letter then, or some message recorded to the backbox ... just breathing ... strange ... :2 cents: poor people ...

Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 20430753)

new development:

when they investigated his home they found a sick certificate from his doctor - torn into pieces - for the day of the crash

so it looks like his doctor declared him unfit for flying, he saw his career in danger and thought "fuck it, let's end this"

Originally Posted by Horatio Caine (Post 20430817)

I hope he burns in hell for this. I just don't understand people who commit suicide this way or by jumping in on-coming traffic, or hang themselves in public. So selfish.

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20430124)

the plane descends 32,000 feet in ~ 8 minutes and no one on the plane notices?

please.

Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 20430753)

new development:

when they investigated his home they found a sick certificate from his doctor - torn into pieces - for the day of the crash

so it looks like his doctor declared him unfit for flying, he saw his career in danger and thought "fuck it, let's end this"

Originally Posted by Sly (Post 20430881)

Where did you read that the doctor declared him unfit for flying? It's a "sick note" as far as I know, which could mean any of 100 different things.

Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 20430888)

speculation from my part - his sick note was from 16th to 29th and he tore it apart and never told his employer about it.

he had no obvious injury and if he had the flu and fever I guess someone would have noticed

i assume you only kill yourself and 149 other people when you receive really really bad news

Originally Posted by Sly (Post 20430891)

I'm inclined to agree with you, but that's a whole lot of assumptions. :winkwink:

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20430869)

I disagree.

Planes change altitude as part of routine flight. Usually no one notices these changes. I usually don't; I am usually wrapped up in a movie doing everything I can to block out all of the noises from the plane.

Most likely they knew something was wrong in the final few minutes when the pilot was trying to hack down the cockpit door with axe.

Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 20430938)

also interesting - how does the altitude setting of the autopilot work?

http://i.imgur.com/dXQ6jIt.png

Originally Posted by romeo22 (Post 20431141)

Sad tragic indeed.he might kill him self why some ppl to die

Originally Posted by romeo22 (Post 20431141)

Sad tragic indeed.he might kill him self why some ppl to die

Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 20431502)

Because has was an asshole.

Originally Posted by xXXtesy10 (Post 20431663)

so Putin is too, what difference?

Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 20431502)

Because has was an asshole.

Originally Posted by Cherry7 (Post 20431510)

Because when somebody is mentally ill they do not think properly.

Not in control of his actions.

More victims of the bogus "War on Terror".

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20431878)

that co-pilot wasn't a victim. of anything.

Originally Posted by Cherry7 (Post 20432035)

Do you know any one that has suffered from depression?

If mental illness did not have such a stigma attached to it, is their more of a chance he could have received medical help?

Is blaming and accusing people or compassion and help more likely to avoid a repeat in the future?

Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 20430773)

i think we can safely say that no one knows what went on in this guys head

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20432052)

None of that has anything to do with what you wrote, which was he was a victim [of the war on terror].

Originally Posted by Cherry7 (Post 20432063)

he would not be dead if the door was not lockable. The door was lock because of the war on terror.

Originally Posted by rogueteens (Post 20430633)

Okay so it's looking like a suicide but what I find strange is that the co-pilot kept quiet the whole time he was alone in the cockpit. You would have thought that he would have responded to the radio even if he ignored requests - almost all suicides leave a note to say why they are doing it and I would have thought that he would have done that over the radio. keeping totally silent is strange.

Originally Posted by GregE (Post 20432234)

The door was locked because he locked it.

Originally Posted by Cherry7 (Post 20432700)

Don't be silly now, doors were reinforced and made that they could not be forced because of "the war on Terror".

Before the pilot could have forced the door without problem.

Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 20432750)

people with clinical depression still make a lot of very rational decisions - they are not raging crazy

most of their suicides result from not wanting to be a burden to others - mostly family

and they usually not kill other people in the process

but the victims in this case are the 149 other passengers and crew - not that guy that crashed the plane.

Originally Posted by Cherry7 (Post 20432035)

If mental illness did not have such a stigma attached to it, is their more of a chance he could have received medical help?

Originally Posted by oppoten (Post 20432869)

He did receive medical help, but outside of his profession.

From reading the main pilots forum, it's clear that much of that industry just doesn't get it. Anything irrational goes against the grain of being a pilot, and thinking like a pilot. People try to discuss mental health issues, but they're shouted down as being full of shit.