Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20430177)

it was unusual enough to be noticed by ATC.

Originally Posted by Dmcontent (Post 20430301)

For the ones interested here is the transponder messages...

The last dark line at 9:30:55 is the F/O input in the A/P to 100 ft



http://s24.postimg.org/6v28wb2px/4_U9525.png

Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 20430306)

so between 09:30:52 and 09:30:55 he changed altitude from 38,000 ft to 96 ft - do I read that correct?

Originally Posted by Dmcontent (Post 20430310)

The F/O changed the A/P altitude settings, doesn't mean aircraft was at that altitude.

In between he set A/P to 13008 feet

Originally Posted by Dmcontent (Post 20430310)

The F/O changed the A/P altitude settings, doesn't mean aircraft was at that altitude.

In between he set A/P to 13008 feet

Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 20430319)

no no, that's not what i meant.

it took him 3 seconds to change the altitude settings, the message at 09:30:54 was sent while he was still dialing it down i guess

Originally Posted by Dmcontent (Post 20430338)

yes he was dialing it down, what bugs me is why if he intended to kill himself not initiate an emergency descent instead of dialing down the altitude

Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 20430336)

and btw - where did you get this from?

Originally Posted by Dmcontent (Post 20430353)

You can get this data in any flight tracking site

Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 20430354)

yeah, found it by now - thanks

Originally Posted by Dmcontent (Post 20430365)

Just also found out from an a320 pilot that he dial down the altitude instead of emergency descent because dialing down the airplane will descend and give warnings on its way but will do nothing.

The other way around the a320 has a alpha protection that may avoid terrain pulling up by itself.

Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 20429894)

i don't know how often you fly - i do maybe 6-10 times a year

but when you do, do you sit in your seat and analyze the planes behaviour and once you consider it outside the norm (whatever you think it is) you call the stewardess and ask her to ask the pilot if he knows what he's doing?

and would you expect any other answer from the stewardess than "it's all fine, sir, don't worry"?

and how good are you at calculating the correct flight level from looking out of the window?

especially when you cross mountains?

seriously...

Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 20429912)

i can only assume you never fly

Originally Posted by mineistaken (Post 20429914)

I do. About 30 times in my lifetime. You never start "landing" that much for 8-10 minutes in the middle of the flight. Never.

Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 20430697)

Looks like Germanwings is a pretty interesting company. The guy was visiting a psychiatrist for a year and a half and he was able to work as a pilot. Is that a normal thing in Germany?

Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 20430753)

new development:

when they investigated his home they found a sick certificate from his doctor - torn into pieces - for the day of the crash

so it looks like his doctor declared him unfit for flying, he saw his career in danger and thought "fuck it, let's end this"

Originally Posted by TeenCat (Post 20430764)

strange there is no good bye letter then, or some message recorded to the backbox ... just breathing ... strange ... :2 cents: poor people ...

Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 20430753)

new development:

when they investigated his home they found a sick certificate from his doctor - torn into pieces - for the day of the crash

so it looks like his doctor declared him unfit for flying, he saw his career in danger and thought "fuck it, let's end this"

Originally Posted by Horatio Caine (Post 20430817)

I hope he burns in hell for this. I just don't understand people who commit suicide this way or by jumping in on-coming traffic, or hang themselves in public. So selfish.

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20430124)

the plane descends 32,000 feet in ~ 8 minutes and no one on the plane notices?

please.

Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 20430753)

new development:

when they investigated his home they found a sick certificate from his doctor - torn into pieces - for the day of the crash

so it looks like his doctor declared him unfit for flying, he saw his career in danger and thought "fuck it, let's end this"

Originally Posted by Sly (Post 20430881)

Where did you read that the doctor declared him unfit for flying? It's a "sick note" as far as I know, which could mean any of 100 different things.

Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 20430888)

speculation from my part - his sick note was from 16th to 29th and he tore it apart and never told his employer about it.

he had no obvious injury and if he had the flu and fever I guess someone would have noticed

i assume you only kill yourself and 149 other people when you receive really really bad news

Originally Posted by Sly (Post 20430891)

I'm inclined to agree with you, but that's a whole lot of assumptions. :winkwink:

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20430869)

I disagree.

Planes change altitude as part of routine flight. Usually no one notices these changes. I usually don't; I am usually wrapped up in a movie doing everything I can to block out all of the noises from the plane.

Most likely they knew something was wrong in the final few minutes when the pilot was trying to hack down the cockpit door with axe.

Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 20430938)

also interesting - how does the altitude setting of the autopilot work?

http://i.imgur.com/dXQ6jIt.png

Originally Posted by romeo22 (Post 20431141)

Sad tragic indeed.he might kill him self why some ppl to die

Originally Posted by romeo22 (Post 20431141)

Sad tragic indeed.he might kill him self why some ppl to die

Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 20431502)

Because has was an asshole.