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2MuchMark 04-04-2015 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 20438943)
Nothing personal, but no one in the US gives a flying fuck what Canadians think about our politics or the weirdos that participate in them.

Sorry, we just can't help it. It is fascinating, entertaining, and scary all at the same time. Someone has to care even if you don't. What Americans say and do affects the world, especially Canada, your closest and bestest'es'es'es friend. xoxo.


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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20439029)
prove her wrong then. prove wrong that giving nuke capability to a radicalized anti-American iran, which led a "death to America" march just a few weeks ago, won't lead to a nuked USA city; that it won't lead to what is already being called a Middle East nuclear race since SA has announced if Iran gets nuclear capacity, they want it to.

You should read the details of the deal before posting comments like this.


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Originally Posted by EonBlue (Post 20439079)
That's real mature. Are you 14?
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Mature? No, but "Fuck you" still perfectly describes how I feel towards her. I think she is the biggest liar and biggest flake ever to come out of the Tea Party. Anyone who ever voted for her needs to be ashamed of themselves.


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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20439086)
the truly bizarre part about this deal is how BO thinks we're all supposed to be delighted with his deal that give iran nukes. as if more nukes is a delightful thing.


fyi libtards, it's not a good thing.

President Obama did not give Iran Nukes. Are you trying out for an anchor on Fox News or something? Stop being lazy. It makes you stupid.


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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20439230)
fucking hypocrite douchebag canaduhian.

Geezuz. Did your Mom piss in your corn flakes this morning? Calm down man..

dyna mo 04-04-2015 12:05 PM

i did read the fucking details you fucking canaduhian hypocrite nitwit.

dyna mo 04-04-2015 12:12 PM

furthermore, do YOU know what's not in the fucking details? of course you do not.

nothing at all having to do with halting Iran's building ballistic missiles designed for nuclear payloads.





January 21, 2015, 9:21 pm

Satellite imagery taken by Israel?s Eros-B satellite that was launched last April showed new missile-related sites that Iran recently constructed just outside Tehran. One facility is a missile launch site, capable of sending a rocket into space or of firing an ICBM.

On the launch pad was a new 27-meter long missile, never seen before.

The missile and the launch pad indicate that Iran?s ballistic missile program, which is an integral part of its nuclear weapons program, is moving forward at full throttle.

Israeli TV shows 'Iranian missile' that 'can reach far beyond Europe' | The Times of Israel

jimmycooper 04-04-2015 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 20438943)
Nothing personal, but no one in the US gives a flying fuck what Canadians think about our politics or the weirdos that participate in them.

On that note, no one really gives a fuck about what bikers who exist on the fringes of society care about either. ESPECIALLY the vast majority of your GOP brethren. I'd love to see footage of you and Vendzilla crashing some random GOP fundraiser. Pure comedy. :1orglaugh

EonBlue 04-04-2015 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by ********** (Post 20439268)
Mature? No, but "Fuck you" still perfectly describes how I feel towards her. I think she is the biggest liar and biggest flake ever to come out of the Tea Party. Anyone who ever voted for her needs to be ashamed of themselves.

The fact that you and others around here are so obsessed with this woman who, in the grand scheme of things, has zero effect on your life - especially you since you're Canadian. She wields no real power and never will. So what if she says stupid things. Lots of people do - even people you worhsip. People have the right to be stupid and people have the right to vote for stupid people without counseling from you.

I'm not defending her because I couldn't give a flying fuck about her. Her existence and what she says has zero impact on my life. You should just get over her and get a hobby or something. This level of obsessiveness is probably some sort of an indication of mental issues. :2 cents:



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EonBlue 04-04-2015 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by directfiesta (Post 20439173)
pisant ?????

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Wow! You caught a typo.

For the first time in the history of the internet there has been a typo and the communist loving loser bitch directFiesta was there to catch it and pat herself on the back for such a job well done.



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dyna mo 04-04-2015 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by EonBlue (Post 20439318)
The fact that you and others around here are so obsessed with this woman who, in the grand scheme of things, has zero effect on your life - especially you since you're Canadian. She wields no real power and never will. So what if she says stupid things. Lots of people do - even people you worhsip. People have the right to be stupid and people have the right to vote for stupid people without counseling from you.

I'm not defending her because I couldn't give a flying fuck about her. Her existence and what she says has zero impact on my life. You should just get over her and get a hobby or something. This level of obsessiveness is probably some sort of an indication of mental issues. :2 cents:



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anyone with >=1 single brain cell would understand where you're coming from but you are trying to reason with a hypocrite simpleton who points his finger at little old ladies when they fall prey to internet scams while he spews leftard propaganda without so much as a moment of critically thinking about it. all while claiming others don't inform themselves as he drives around thinking he's saving the planet by adding a new car to the total.

2MuchMark 04-04-2015 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20439281)
i did read the fucking details you fucking canaduhian hypocrite nitwit.

Are you drunk?

crockett 04-04-2015 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by directfiesta (Post 20439173)
pisant ?????

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

I seem to have a knack of pissing these guys off.. :1orglaugh

dyna mo 04-04-2015 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by ********** (Post 20439325)
Are you drunk?

no, but you're a fuckwad canaduhian hypocrite.

crockett 04-04-2015 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by EonBlue (Post 20439078)
Hahahaha. Whatever you say loser. You know fuck-all about me. You're nothing but a narcissistic, left-wing, arrogant pisant. You know far less than you think you do. You are so far to the "glorious" left and so mentally challenged and deluded that you probably think Mao was a right-winger.

Anyways, welcome to ignore. It is pointless conversing with someone who clearly hasn't mentally advanced past elementary school.

Thankfully I will no longer have to witness your butchering of the English language.



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And here we have it, the second most hateful Right Wingbat on GFY outside of 12clicks.. :1orglaugh

dyna mo 04-04-2015 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by ********** (Post 20439325)
Are you drunk?

the truly dimwitted part of this is i'm the one providing factual information in this thread while you're adding "i facebooked a fuck you to michele bachmann" while accusing me of being drunk.

crockett 04-04-2015 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by EonBlue (Post 20439318)
The fact that you and others around here are so obsessed with this woman who, in the grand scheme of things, has zero effect on your life - especially you since you're Canadian. She wields no real power and never will. So what if she says stupid things. Lots of people do - even people you worhsip. People have the right to be stupid and people have the right to vote for stupid people without counseling from you.

I'm not defending her because I couldn't give a flying fuck about her. Her existence and what she says has zero impact on my life. You should just get over her and get a hobby or something. This level of obsessiveness is probably some sort of an indication of mental issues. :2 cents:



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We are sorry, we must of over looked all these countless Michelle Bachmann topics due to the countless whines about Obama that you and your fellow team mates partake in.

2MuchMark 04-04-2015 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by EonBlue (Post 20439318)
The fact that you and others around here are so obsessed with this woman who, in the grand scheme of things, has zero effect on your life - especially you since you're Canadian. She wields no real power and never will. So what if she says stupid things. Lots of people do - even people you worhsip. People have the right to be stupid and people have the right to vote for stupid people without counseling from you.

I'm not defending her because I couldn't give a flying fuck about her. Her existence and what she says has zero impact on my life. You should just get over her and get a hobby or something. This level of obsessiveness is probably some sort of an indication of mental issues. :2 cents:

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You son of a .... well, actually, ok, point taken.

HOWEVER, I would just like to say 2 things about why she commands (commanded? my attention).

#1. She really, honestly, truly is, a dope. My interest isn't in her so much, it is in how she ever even landed a job, let alone got elected to any kind of office.

#2. And it is possible that some of the things COULD affect my life. Bachmann in 2008 said "Carbon Dioxide is Harmless". What if too many people believed her, and green programs were delayed or scared? She also said that HPV Vaccine causes retardation. What if I had daughters who heard that and then refused to get this important vaccine? So true, she has no direct effect on my life and never will, but she still has dangerous influence, and that worries me a little.

Peace.

dyna mo 04-04-2015 01:55 PM

at least crockett isn't a hypocrite fuckwad, he's just wrong [most of the time].

directfiesta 04-04-2015 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by EonBlue (Post 20439322)
Wow! You caught a typo.

For the first time in the history of the internet there has been a typo and the communist loving loser bitch directFiesta was there to catch it and pat herself on the back for such a job well done.



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:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

a typo ???

explain how 2 letters ( A & E ) got a typo of one letter ( I ) pretty far on the keyboard ?

you can`t spell, that is all :2 cents:

2MuchMark 04-04-2015 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20439323)
anyone with >=1 single brain cell would understand where you're coming from but you are trying to reason with a hypocrite simpleton

Please prove why I am a hypocrite.

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20439323)
who points his finger at little old ladies when they fall prey to internet scams

What little old lady? What Internet Scam? Are you high?

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20439323)
while he spews leftard propaganda

Prove me wrong then. Don't just ramble - post some links.


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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20439323)
without so much as a moment of critically thinking about it.

Are you sure you're not talking about yourself? This really sounds like you my friend.

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20439323)
all while claiming others don't inform themselves

I never said you don't inform yourself.

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20439323)
as he drives around thinking he's saving the planet

I don't feel like I'm saving the planet, but I do enjoy the drive a lot more now.

I used to drive a V8 Camaro, and cry like a baby at all the dirty oil. So I sold the V8 and bought an EV. I'm not saving the planet, but at least I'm polluting it less (0 L / 100 KHM , *ahem*!). What is wrong with that exactly? And why are you right when people like Elon Musk are wrong?

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20439323)
by adding a new car to the total.

So I get it. You are saying 2 cars are bad, 1 car is good. We had this argument already. I*Sold* my Camaro to someone. Had I not sold it, that person would have bought a new Camaro, making 3 Cars on the road. By selling my car I "recycled" it as it were, leaving only 2 cars. Furthermore since one is an EV, I'm now driving the same amount as I used to but not burning fossil fuel to get where I need to go, and not wasting money either.

(By the way: I would have spent $1866.00 in dirty polluting Gas for the amount I have travelled since June 2014, but instead I spent only $137.41 buying pretty darn clean electricity. So, sorry Dynamo, you are way way off. Stop being such a sour puss and open your mind to other possibilities, especially the possibility that you are wrong sometimes. Yes this is GFY and you can tell people to go fuck themselves but I've learned that its not the best thing to do, especially on a forum with people you do business with sometimes).

Happy Easter.

EonBlue 04-04-2015 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20439323)
he spews leftard propaganda without so much as a moment of critically thinking about it. all while claiming others don't inform themselves as he drives around thinking he's saving the planet by adding a new car to the total.

Agreed.

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Originally Posted by ********** (Post 20439334)
You son of a .... well, actually, ok, point taken.

HOWEVER, I would just like to say 2 things about why she commands (commanded? my attention).

#1. She really, honestly, truly is, a dope. My interest isn't in her so much, it is in how she ever even landed a job, let alone got elected to any kind of office.

#2. And it is possible that some of the things COULD affect my life. Bachmann in 2008 said "Carbon Dioxide is Harmless". What if too many people believed her, and green programs were delayed or scared? She also said that HPV Vaccine causes retardation. What if I had daughters who heard that and then refused to get this important vaccine? So true, she has no direct effect on my life and never will, but she still has dangerous influence, and that worries me a little.

Peace.

1. There are tons of people who really, truly are dopes. There are not enough hours in the day for someone to track the stupid things even a fraction of them say.

2. Carbon dioxide, blah, blah, blah. I get the feeling from you that even if it is proven to be harmless someday you won't believe it because that would mean agreeing with this woman that you hate so much. I do have daughters and if they heard her say that HPV Vaccine causes retardation I would point them in the direction of some proper information that states otherwise.

She really has no more influence than any of the millions of people that are on the internet posting false, misleading and/or utterly ridiculous information. I want to teach my daughters to think critically so they can see through this stuff themselves.


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EonBlue 04-04-2015 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20439337)
at least crockett isn't a hypocrite fuckwad, he's just wrong [most of the time].

Well, definitely a fuckwad. Crock-o-shit.


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crockett 04-04-2015 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20439337)
at least crockett isn't a hypocrite fuckwad, he's just wrong [most of the time].

Yes, because anyone whom has a different opinion from yours, is obviously wrong..

EonBlue 04-04-2015 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by ********** (Post 20439334)
#1. She really, honestly, truly is, a dope. My interest isn't in her so much, it is in how she ever even landed a job, let alone got elected to any kind of office.

What about this guy:

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/hank-joh...arine-buildup/

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In a discussion regarding a planned military buildup on the Pacific island, Johnson expressed some concerns about the plans to Adm. Robert Willard, head of the U.S. Pacific fleet.

"My fear is that the whole island will become so overly populated that it will tip over and capsize," Johnson said. Willard paused and replied, "We don't anticipate that."
See how easy that is?

Now what if some poor sap reading that had plans to vacation in Guam but now thinks he must cancel because of what that dope said?


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dyna mo 04-04-2015 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by crockett (Post 20439358)
Yes, because anyone whom has a different opinion from yours, is obviously wrong..

This is why I specified you are mostly wrong. Because sometimes you get it right. Like just now! I can't deny the fact that I win debates here.

dyna mo 04-04-2015 02:57 PM

********** is such a dimwitted fuckwad he's already forgotten about the little old lady he mocked, and started a thread about so other could mock her also

https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-pr...harleston.html

uno 04-04-2015 03:18 PM

This thread title sounds like an AWESOME name for a comedy tour.

MediaGuy 04-04-2015 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 20438943)
Nothing personal, but no one in the US gives a flying fuck what Canadians think about our politics or the weirdos that participate in them.

Why? If you had an opinion of our President Harper or any of the members of his cabinet, I'd be interested in the "outside perspective".

Actually, US politics might start interesting us less. Where ours used to be basic, boring and regular exercises in democracy, they're beginning to get really interesting what with our own Patriot Act, corruption, backtracking and torture involvement becoming exposed - and all with an election coming up next year!

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20439029)
prove her wrong then. prove wrong that giving nuke capability to a radicalized anti-American iran, which led a "death to America" march just a few weeks ago, won't lead to a nuked USA city; that it won't lead to what is already being called a Middle East nuclear race since SA has announced if Iran gets nuclear capacity, they want it to.

This wasn't really about Iran getting nukes, and neither is the framework agreement they've ironed out. It's about Bachmann using a wholly inappropriate and sad event overseas as her analogy for yet another anti-Obama talking point, using the fear of a mushroom cloud despite the fact Iran signed the Nuclear non-proliferation pact and the US did not, btw.

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20439086)
the truly bizarre part about this deal is how BO thinks we're all supposed to be delighted with his deal that give iran nukes. as if more nukes is a delightful thing.

But the deal doesn't give Iran nukes. And it's not "his" deal. There are five countries plus Iran involved in the negotiation.

:D

dyna mo 04-04-2015 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by MediaGuy (Post 20439452)


This wasn't really about Iran getting nukes, and neither is the framework agreement they've ironed out. It's about Bachmann using a wholly inappropriate and sad event overseas as an analogy for the international group of five countries to negotiate Iranian transparency and compliancy with nuclear non-proliferation (the agreement which Iran signed and the US did not, btw).


But the deal doesn't give Iran nukes. And it's not "his" deal. There are five countries plus Iran involved in the negotiation.

:D

:D

you are completely misinformed/uninformed. you don't get that nukes is the term for nuclear technology. you are not aware the deal is exactly about iran keeping their nuclear manufacturing capability intact and moving forward to become a nuclear nation. you're the one who stated that this thread is about the dr strangelove like comment she made.

you're the one that doesn't get that this is entirely BO's deal, the dealmakers are in fact john kerry and zarif, with kerry reporting hourly to BO and the other 5 countries going along with BO.

but what's worse is you don't get at all that the problem here is letting iran have nukes AT ALL. instead of them spending 10s of billions of dollars on nuke manufacturing and ballistic missiles why haven't they sunk that money in solar farms? do you really think the 1 nuke power plant they are capable of building trumps the power they could generate from acres and acres of solar farms in the sprawling wasteland of a desert?

but in the hysteria to point fingers at bachmann, common sense gets lost and BO's giving iran the OK to become a nuclear nation is a grandstanding moment.

inform yourself before pointing fingers.

dyna mo 04-04-2015 04:42 PM

here's a framework:

hey iran, torch every single fucking 1 of your nuke facilities and give up your 1000s of pounds of enriched cake and start building solar farms or we don't lift the sanctions. deal or no fucking deal. end of negotiations.

kane 04-04-2015 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20439455)
you are completely misinformed/uninformed. you don't get that nukes is the term for nuclear technology. you are not aware the deal is exactly about iran keeping their nuclear manufacturing capability intact and moving forward to become a nuclear nation. you're the one who stated that this thread is about the dr strangelove like comment she made.

you're the one that doesn't get that this is entirely BO's deal, the dealmakers are in fact john kerry and zarif, with kerry reporting hourly to BO and the other 5 countries going along with BO.

but what's worse is you don't get at all that the problem here is letting iran have nukes AT ALL. instead of them spending 10s of billions of dollars on nuke manufacturing and ballistic missiles why haven't they sunk that money in solar farms? do you really think the 1 nuke power plant they are capable of building trumps the power they could generate from acres and acres of solar farms in the sprawling wasteland of a desert?

but in the hysteria to point fingers at bachmann, common sense gets lost and BO's giving iran the OK to become a nuclear nation is a grandstanding moment.

inform yourself before pointing fingers.

Perhaps their plan is to show the world that they can responsibly handle nuclear energy so they might be able to build more power plants in the future.

To me the options are simple:

1. Deny them nuclear energy at all costs which will likely further radicalize the nation and cause more instability not to mention they may still then go ahead with their nuclear program just to spite us.

or

2. We try to find a common ground to deal with them allow them nuclear energy and keep an eye on what they are doing to make certain they are not making nuclear bombs.

Either option comes with risks. The question is which is the one the has the higher potential upside.

dyna mo 04-04-2015 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by kane (Post 20439469)
Perhaps their plan is to show the world that they can responsibly handle nuclear energy so they might be able to build more power plants in the future.

To me the options are simple:

1. Deny them nuclear energy at all costs which will likely further radicalize the nation and cause more instability not to mention they may still then go ahead with their nuclear program just to spite us.

or

2. We try to find a common ground to deal with them allow them nuclear energy and keep an eye on what they are doing to make certain they are not making nuclear bombs.

Either option comes with risks. The question is which is the one the has the higher potential upside.

the only cost/risk in denying them nuke manufacturing is in keeping sanctions in place.

the question we all have to ask is why is nuke manufacturing so important to Iran? they have vasts stretches of deserted desert to build incredible solar farms that would easily out rival a nuclear plant or 2. there is absolutely zero justification for them to have any nuclear technology at all. more nuke is worse not better.

and that's excluding their history up until the very very recent of having a nuclear warhead military goal.

we have them in a negotiating corner, they wouldn't even be at the table if the sanctions were not working. the deal could easily be destroy your entire nuke operation and go solar or we don't lift the sanctions.

Robbie 04-04-2015 05:09 PM

Bachman is a nut case. That much is a given.

As for Iran...I am constantly scratching my head that some of you think we are "giving" them anything. Or that WE are the ones "conceding" ANYTHING in these talks.

The only ones who are giving in are the Iranians. They don't have to do a damn thing we tell them too. They are a sovereign nation.

I try to picture what our govt. would say if another govt. tried to tell US what we could and couldn't do.

Remember, Iran is a sovereign nation. We don't have any rights at all to boss them around. But we still try to do so.

And everything that is in that agreement is THEM giving in to us. Not the other way around.
Just sayin'...

And Michelle Bachman is indeed right up there with the craziest people we've ever had in our federal govt. But she's definitely not alone. :(

dyna mo 04-04-2015 05:16 PM

and here's the other important question-

why is it so important to BO to allow them the ability to manufacture nuclear materials?

dyna mo 04-04-2015 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 20439475)
Bachman is a nut case. That much is a given.

As for Iran...I am constantly scratching my head that some of you think we are "giving" them anything. Or that WE are the ones "conceding" ANYTHING in these talks.

The only ones who are giving in are the Iranians. They don't have to do a damn thing we tell them too. They are a sovereign nation.

I try to picture what our govt. would say if another govt. tried to tell US what we could and couldn't do.

Remember, Iran is a sovereign nation. We don't have any rights at all to boss them around. But we still try to do so.

And everything that is in that agreement is THEM giving in to us. Not the other way around.
Just sayin'...

And Michelle Bachman is indeed right up there with the craziest people we've ever had in our federal govt. But she's definitely not alone. :(

because this isn't 1 nation exerting control over another. USA is a declared enemy of iran, they hold state-sponsored death to america rallies routinely, they sponsor anti-american terrorism.

they are building a ballistic missile program designed around nuclear payloads. they have built a hardened missile-proof bunker loaded with centrifuges. they have lied to the international atomic energy commission on their goals aspirations and accomplishments with nukes, they have denied inspections and misled inspectors, etc, et al, on& on and more.

again, if energy is so important to them, why haven't they built massive solar farms that would trump the energy output of a nuclear power plant?

dyna mo 04-04-2015 05:31 PM

Over the past few years, Iran's state sponsorship of terrorism has increased dramatically to levels not seen since the late 1980s and early 1990s. Some of this is terrorism carried out by the regime's own operatives from the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps Qods Force, and some by the regime's closest militant ally, Hezbollah. Events in Syria today have further cemented this partnership, with dire consequences for regional and international security.

Even under the regime of President Rouhani, and even as Tehran engages in the P5+1 talks over its nuclear program, Iran continues to engage in these types of activities itself and sponsors the efforts of its partners.

Iran's Support for Terrorism Worldwide - The Washington Institute for Near East Policy

kane 04-04-2015 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20439479)
and here's the other important question-

why is it so important to BO to allow them the ability to manufacture nuclear materials?

He likely doesn't give a shit about them making nuclear material. He wants to be known as the president who put an end to their nuclear weapon program and brought them to the table in reasonable negotiations with the West.

Instead of the West (read United State) telling them what to do, we are going to allow them to determine their own course so long as they don't make nuclear weapons.

If we tell them to tear down the nuclear power and just use solar, they could simply say, "You go fully solar first."

directfiesta 04-04-2015 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 20439475)
Bachman is a nut case. That much is a given.

As for Iran...I am constantly scratching my head that some of you think we are "giving" them anything. Or that WE are the ones "conceding" ANYTHING in these talks.

The only ones who are giving in are the Iranians. They don't have to do a damn thing we tell them too. They are a sovereign nation.

I try to picture what our govt. would say if another govt. tried to tell US what we could and couldn't do.

Remember, Iran is a sovereign nation. We don't have any rights at all to boss them around. But we still try to do so.

And everything that is in that agreement is THEM giving in to us. Not the other way around.
Just sayin'...

And Michelle Bachman is indeed right up there with the craziest people we've ever had in our federal govt. But she's definitely not alone. :(

I am ... surprised .... :thumbsup

It is re-assuring to see someone able to analyse the '' deal '' instead of just trashing it with talking points, such as Dyna Mo . :2 cents:

directfiesta 04-04-2015 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20439485)
because this isn't 1 nation exerting control over another. USA is a declared enemy of iran, they hold state-sponsored death to america rallies routinely, they sponsor anti-american terrorism.

they are building a ballistic missile program designed around nuclear payloads. they have built a hardened missile-proof bunker loaded with centrifuges. they have lied to the international atomic energy commission on their goals aspirations and accomplishments with nukes, they have denied inspections and misled inspectors, etc, et al, on& on and more.

again, if energy is so important to them, why haven't they built massive solar farms that would trump the energy output of a nuclear power plant?

Does Israel have inspections ....


oups, forgot, they have not signed the treaty , unlike Iran :2 cents:

dyna mo 04-04-2015 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by directfiesta (Post 20439493)
I am ... surprised .... :thumbsup

It is re-assuring to see someone able to analyse the '' deal '' instead of just trashing it with talking points, such as Dyna Mo . :2 cents:

i've done nothing but support my comments and questions on the nuke deal with facts and figures and real data.

you on the other point fingers at people like me because i have a big enough nutsack to understand an issue and make an educated opinion on it based on facts, then articulate that cohesive thought well-beyond your comprehension.

Robbie 04-04-2015 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20439485)
because this isn't 1 nation exerting control over another. USA is a declared enemy of iran

What I'm saying is...who made the United States into "God" with the power to tell any other nation what they can and can't do?

If we go with the line of thinking that you laid out (and that our own govt. seems to believe and the media is pumping us with)...then shouldn't Iran be demanding that we "de-nuke" as well?

If you step back and look at it for a second you have two countries.
One is the ONLY country to ever use nuclear weapons on another country. The other is run by religious radicals that we don't like (and that don't like us).

Looks like a case of two "bad guys" to me.

But I digress. My point is that the U.S. has no authority over another sovereign nation.
And our insistence on being the world's "policeman" has already caused us a lot of problems over the last few decades.

9-11, the Patriot Act, wars...all because we insist on putting our nose in everyone else's business worldwide.

It's bad enough the govt. tries to run all of our lives right here in the U.S.

Ironically, this is NOT what the founding fathers ever had in mind for our country.

Not many people realize this...but ironically (with our govt. spying on us, running our lives, and invading other countries without being attacked), the first coin ever minted by the U.S. Govt. didn't say "In God We Trust"
It said "MIND YOUR BUSINESS"

http://images.fineartamerica.com/ima...s-ed-smith.jpg

I wish our govt. was still like that instead of the power hungry bunch of crooks we have now.

dyna mo 04-04-2015 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by directfiesta (Post 20439494)
Does Israel have inspections ....


oups, forgot, they have not signed the treaty , unlike Iran :2 cents:

oh, i get it. no need to struggle with trying to be clever. you think it's OK for iran to have nuke manufacturing on account of israel doesn't have inspections.


and that makes sense to you. more nukes [in the hands of radical anti-americans] is better than being a hypocrite (in your eyes).

i'm not surprised.

directfiesta 04-04-2015 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20439488)
Over the past few years, Iran's state sponsorship of terrorism has increased dramatically to levels not seen since the late 1980s and early 1990s. Some of this is terrorism carried out by the regime's own operatives from the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps Qods Force, and some by the regime's closest militant ally, Hezbollah. Events in Syria today have further cemented this partnership, with dire consequences for regional and international security.

Even under the regime of President Rouhani, and even as Tehran engages in the P5+1 talks over its nuclear program, Iran continues to engage in these types of activities itself and sponsors the efforts of its partners.

Iran's Support for Terrorism Worldwide - The Washington Institute for Near East Policy

serious link .... :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Quote:

Matthew Levitt is a senior fellow at the Washington Institute for Near East Policy (WINEP), a "pro-Israel" think tank spun off from the American Isreal Public Affairs Committee. The director of WINEP's Stein Program on Counterterrorism and Intelligence, Levitt is a frequently cited commentator on counterterrorism policy and regularly testifies before congressional committees.

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Levitt has also written fear-mongering articles about the Khorasan group, whose alleged "imminent" attack on the United States was used as a pretext for the Obama administration's bombing campaign in Syria in September 2014.[2]

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A central focus of Levitt's work has been Iran's alleged support of international terrorist organizations.

Levitt's claim that Iran is pursuing a nuclear weapon is questioned by reports from the IAEA and western intelligence agencies, both of which have repeatedly found that Iran does not have a nuclear weapons program.[8]

"[T]he author?who speaks no Arabic?fails to understand Hezbollah's nature, as well as its aims. Nor does he have a grip on its internal organization or modus vivendi, just as he lacks familiarity with its history or environment and remains a stranger to the culture of its popular base. A number of events in the history of the region, and in particular, of Lebanon, are grossly distorted, leading at best to concerns about Levitt's ignorance; at worst, about his intellectual honesty," Daher wrote. "Levitt's attempts to describe the organization's structure are replete with irrefutable errors of fact ? that naturally erode confidence in Levitt's understanding of the most basic features of the organization."[14]

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and so on ... Matthew Levitt - Profile - Right Web - Institute for Policy Studies
nice link, DynaMo .... :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh


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