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charlie g 04-07-2015 10:11 AM

there are no easy answers. I really dislike putting so many eggs in the Israel basket but we dont have many options. SA will lose power as the world dependence on petroleum subsides, and we know that SA is not really a true friend of the west... more of a business partner.

MediaGuy 04-07-2015 10:15 AM


2MuchMark 04-07-2015 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20441624)
another interesting part of this framework is it only reduces the number of centrifuges down to where they were when BO was first elected. in other words, his accord only ends the trend that commenced under his presidency.

Either you didn't read it, or you didn't understand it. Stop speaking about it with authority already. You're just embarrassing yourself now.

dyna mo 04-07-2015 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by ********** (Post 20441717)
Either you didn't read it, or you didn't understand it. Stop speaking about it with authority already. You're just embarrassing yourself now.


you're such a fucking douchebag you can't even knock it off for a split second. there's a reason i keep offering you an olive branch, and it's because you are such a fucking douchebag you're not man enough to accept it and i enjoy rubbing your nose in that.

+ you are continuing to talk out of your ass.

By the end of 2007, Iran had commenced feeding uranium hexafluoride gas into approximately 3,000 centrifuges it had installed at its site at Natanz. All were of the P-1 variety. The number of these centrifuges then rose steadily. By late 2008 Iran had installed almost 5,000 centrifuges, and by February 2012, Iran had installed over 9,000 centrifuges and was feeding gas into more than 8,000 of them. During this same period Iran made great strides in producing uranium hexafluoride at its Uranium Conversion Facility (UCF) in Isfahan.

A History of Iran's Nuclear Program | Iran Watch


Western negotiators are concerned that the total of about 19,000 centrifuges that Iran has installed at its enrichment plants at Natanz and Fordow is sufficient for producing, should it decide to do so, highly enriched uranium for nuclear weapons purposes (typically enriched to 90 percent uranium-235) in a time frame .

Agreeing on Limits for Iran?s Centrifuge Program: A Two-Stage Strategy | Arms Control Association

here, i'll do the maths for you:

18000 > 3000

dyna mo 04-07-2015 11:11 AM

the George W. Bush administration adopted the view that Iran should not be allowed to operate even a single centrifuge. When diplomacy failed, Iran resumed its enrichment program and has built and installed large numbers of centrifuges?the first-generation IR-1 and the second-generation IR-2m?at its Natanz facility, developed designs and prototypes for more-powerful machines, and constructed a second, deeply buried enrichment plant at Fordow. The international community imposed sanctions on Iran to pressure it to suspend its nuclear program again and to bring it back to the negotiating table.

dyna mo 04-07-2015 11:25 AM

acording to this, the agreement leaves iran with double the number of centrifuges they had when BO was elected:

1. Uranium enrichment: ..The growth in the number of Iranian centrifuges has been enormous, from a few thousand a few years ago to 19,000 today. Last week’s deal stated that Iran must reduce that current number by roughly two-thirds.

that leaves 6000

doing the math for those unable

6000 in 2015 > 3000 in 2008

such historic accord.

2MuchMark 04-07-2015 11:45 AM

http://www.goodfellasmagazine.com/wp...s-lol-face.jpg

dyna mo 04-07-2015 11:50 AM

i'm not lolling at a BO nuclear agreement that simply undoes what BO allowed.


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