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mozadek 04-07-2015 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20442098)
you make some valid points, but kelly thomas was white and the only one of the 3 cops charged with murder and not manslaughter was hispanic. not saying the other 2 were good cops/innocent.

was the jury primarily white on that?

No idea the ethnicity of the foreman, if it was mentioned on KFI I most likely forgot. Even though Kelly Thomas was white, I was still not expecting a guilty verdict. Old people just love to kiss the ass of police and act as an apologist for them, even for one who is hispanic . If a white guy can get his ass kicked on video and dies shortly after and no cop gets convicted that sends a message to blacks and latinos if a cop gets out of line and kills them, the cop's acquittal is nearly guaranteed, if it even makes it that far.

dyna mo 04-07-2015 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by mozadek (Post 20442118)
No idea the ethnicity of the foreman, if it was mentioned on KFI I most likely forgot. Even though Kelly Thomas was white, I was still not expecting a guilty verdict. Old people just love to kiss the ass of police and act as an apologist for them, even for one who is hispanic . If a white guy can get his ass kicked on video and dies shortly after and no cop gets convicted that sends a message to blacks and latinos if a cop gets out of line and kills them, the cop's acquittal is nearly guaranteed, if it even makes it that far.

it was a horrible horrible tragedy. the fact he was seriously mentally ill and the video/audio and all was really difficult. .. but i see what you're saying, and also, the problem involves a judicial system that favors cops. not saying i understand all i know about that part or that it's thoroughly out of whack, nevertheless, maybe a few cop convictions can get things going in the right direction.

Struggle4Bucks 04-07-2015 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by johnnyloadproductions (Post 20442052)
Cops are on edge a lot of the time, ever see a lot of the people they have to deal with on a daily basis?

I remember one time a cop put me in his car for a broken tail light, I just did what he said and didn't make a peep. He wrote me a warning (this is on a very busy interstate) and right up to his driver side door some lower class citizen starts talking to him about someone harassing him (out of nowhere). Stuff like that, day in and day out.

Let me guess... He first handcuffed you before parking you in the back of his car.. to write you a warning... only for a broken tail light... :disgust Imagine you would run for a broken tail light...

L-Pink 04-07-2015 06:55 PM

* A large percentage of cops need better training and evaluating of their reactions under pressure. Not something easy or inexpensive to do. Stress/fear/adrenaline rush affects everyone differently and how do you realistically recreate that for training?

* Criminals shouldn't be criminals but if they are and get caught they need to peacefully surrender to live another day. The cops are just a go between of the criminal and the courts. All a suspect will do by resisting is get shot or have more charges to face. Save your energy for court.

* The problem doesn't start with the police it starts with someone breaking the law. I break laws all the time. Some laws need revised. Some I break with full knowledge of consequences. But the laws I break are my fault and my fault only. Any reaction I provoke from the cop arresting me will undoubtably be my fault as well.

* If you are breaking the law, resisting arrest will just bring out the asshole in any cop. Combine this with some cops that freak under pressure and the shooting problem will never go away.

Horatio Caine 04-07-2015 06:59 PM

Two posts from BM duo? Thats it?

Tdash 04-07-2015 07:02 PM

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Problem solved.

Mutt 04-07-2015 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 20442049)
Don't be ridiculous. Cops don't wake up in the morning hoping to shoot someone dead.

The common denominator in all these shootings, aside from a crime being committed, is resisting arrest.

The officer is put under physical stress and over reacts. How police departments stop/correct this is the question.


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There are some cops who are just waiting for an excuse - some get by the screening/testing process when they become cops then there are the cops who are changed by the job and become mentally unbalanced and are allowed to keep on working - co-workers don't snitch enough.

Tough problem to fix, we need cops, there will always be bad cops. Blacks because they are living in high crime ghettos will be victims more often that whites.

Phoenix 04-07-2015 07:20 PM

I really like this song. Funny thing, one of my drinking buddies in Canada is a fairly high level cop. I like to ride him about shit like this..lol


Phoenix 04-07-2015 07:22 PM

The idiots lawyer dropped him like a bad habit after seeing the video.
North Charleston officer faces murder charge after video shows him shooting man in back - Post and Courier

L-Pink 04-07-2015 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Phoenix (Post 20442143)
The idiots lawyer dropped him like a bad habit after seeing the video.
North Charleston officer faces murder charge after video shows him shooting man in back - Post and Courier

Took balls to stand there recording a shooting. I wonder how the person turned in the video? Personally I would have made 2 copies and given them to local tv stations, remained unknown.

EddyTheDog 04-07-2015 07:33 PM

#50 cops that wish they were on Mars as well...

Jman 04-07-2015 07:36 PM

That's fucked up and unnecessary... But more fucked is the other cop clearly there when taser was dropped just does protocol without challenging shooting cop.

kane 04-07-2015 07:39 PM

Aside from there just being a few bad apples in the police department one of the major problems is that most cops are terribly under-trained and overtaxed.

A friend of mine who was a cop in big city said his commanding officer would tell them to arrive at a call and take no more than 3-5 minutes to decide if a crime has been committed. If so, arrest that person. If not leave and move on. He would go from one call to the next to the next all day long. By the end of the day he was so stressed and exhausted he was ready to collapse. He ended up quitting after about a year and a half.

So, you take someone (and I don't know if this guy is in this situation or not) who doesn't have adequate training, put them under massive non-stop stress all day and eventually they make shitty decisions like what happened here. It's sad.

Phoenix 04-07-2015 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 20442148)
Took balls to stand there recording a shooting. I wonder how the person turned in the video? Personally I would have made 2 copies and given them to local tv stations, remained unknown.

Yeah, I could sense the fear. It seemed like he tried to hide behind a shrubbery..lol

TTI-Rich 04-07-2015 07:59 PM

He was guilty of something or he wouldn't have been running. Why run if you have nothing to hide? I'd say it was a good shoot.

Phoenix 04-07-2015 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by TTI-Rich (Post 20442171)
He was guilty of something or he wouldn't have been running. Why run if you have nothing to hide? I'd say it was a good shoot.

The best trolling is done on the first page. You are a little late because Eddy already side railed this thread with a poll. A poll taken from the same group of users.

anyway, nice attempt.

Rochard 04-07-2015 08:54 PM

Normally I come down on the side of the police. However, in this case it's out and out murder - point blank.

A police officer can only shoot someone when they are in danger, or perhaps if they believe they are in danger. In this case the suspect was unarmed, and was running away from him.

There was no reason to shoot him.

RandazzoXXX 04-07-2015 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 20442017)
Bad shooting. Shouldn't have happened.

But that being said it's another example of someone NOT following orders once stopped. Why is it all these shootings happen after someone resists arrest? Just give up when you get caught.

Is that a fucking joke ... ? You're an imbecile. In some of the other situations that would have been a valid point but this was so damn blatant it's beyond comprehension.

dyna mo 04-07-2015 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Phoenix (Post 20442173)
The best trolling is done on the first page. You are a little late because Eddy already side railed this thread with a poll. A poll taken from the same group of users.

anyway, nice attempt.

I chuckeled.

cosis 04-07-2015 09:16 PM

The guy holding the camera must have been white or he would be dead too

blackmonsters 04-07-2015 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by kane (Post 20442155)
Aside from there just being a few bad apples in the police department one of the major problems is that most cops are terribly under-trained and overtaxed.

A friend of mine who was a cop in big city said his commanding officer would tell them to arrive at a call and take no more than 3-5 minutes to decide if a crime has been committed. If so, arrest that person. If not leave and move on. He would go from one call to the next to the next all day long. By the end of the day he was so stressed and exhausted he was ready to collapse. He ended up quitting after about a year and a half.

So, you take someone (and I don't know if this guy is in this situation or not) who doesn't have adequate training, put them under massive non-stop stress all day and eventually they make shitty decisions like what happened here. It's sad.

Do your fingers get sore when you jack yourself off like this?

Classic :
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cosis 04-07-2015 09:17 PM

This happened about 20 minutes from me. Not looking forward to the national attention.

L-Pink 04-07-2015 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by RandazzoXXX (Post 20442199)
Is that a fucking joke ... ? You're an imbecile. In some of the other situations that would have been a valid point but this was so damn blatant it's beyond comprehension.


Imbecile? You're the fucking person who can't see the point still applies. In fact the point perfectly applies. Sure it's a blatant police fuckup, sure it's a bad shooting but if the guy wouldn't have run/resisted arrest, he wouldn't have been shot. Would he?

My point in these threads is if criminals don't provoke the police they won't get shot. I'm far from condoning violence but I am for using common sense. I'm far from being on the side of the police I'm just stating that these "victims" are dead thru their own stupid, easily avoidable actions.

This particular idiot had warrants for non payment of child support. For that he's going to resist arrest and run? WTF?

blackmonsters 04-07-2015 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 20442209)
Imbecile? You're the fucking person who can't see the point still applies. In fact the point perfectly applies. Sure it's a blatant police fuckup, sure it's a bad shooting but if the guy wouldn't have run/resisted arrest, he wouldn't have been shot. Would he?

My point in these threads is if criminals don't provoke the police they won't get shot. I'm far from condoning violence but I am for using common sense. I'm far from being on the side of the police I'm just stating that these "victims" are dead thru their own stupid, easily avoidable actions.

People should obey the cops like this right?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-XFYTtgZAlE











Just jacking yourself off :


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SuckOnThis 04-07-2015 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 20442096)
Great, you found an exception to a broad statement. Where do I send the cookie?

What's your solution? Or do you just like to bitch? Never mind dumb question.

If you have a problem with someone that watches that video and not being ok with cops murdering people you have some serious issues. :2 cents:

kane 04-07-2015 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by blackmonsters (Post 20442204)
Do your fingers get sore when you jack yourself off like this?

Classic :
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No jerking off, just the truth.

L-Pink 04-07-2015 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by SuckOnThis (Post 20442212)
If you have a problem with someone that watches that video and not being ok with cops murdering people you have some serious issues. :2 cents:

Again, missing my entire point.

blackmonsters 04-07-2015 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by kane (Post 20442214)
No jerking off, just the truth.

The truth is that you posted to cry about cops instead of the guy getting murdered in the video.

I hope the nut you busted dripped down into your shoe while you jacked yourself off with this lame whining about cops and their hard job.

L-Pink 04-07-2015 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by blackmonsters (Post 20442218)
The truth is that you posted to cry about cops instead of the guy getting murdered in the video.

I hope the nut you busted dripped down into your shoe while you jacked yourself off with this lame whining about cops and their hard job.

If the guy in the video who was going to be arrested for outstanding warrants had allowed himself to be peacefully arrested we both know nothing would have happened.

That doesn't mean the cop was right in the shooting. It just means the guy would still be alive if he had been peaceful. My only point.

Horatio Caine 04-07-2015 09:45 PM

Now we are talking. What took you so long homeboy?

blackmonsters 04-07-2015 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 20442221)
If the guy in the video who was going to be arrested for outstanding warrants had allowed himself to be peacefully arrested we both know nothing would have happened.

That doesn't mean the cop was right in the shooting. It just means the guy would still be alive if he had been peaceful. My only point.

You mean like this guy right?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-XFYTtgZAlE

kane 04-07-2015 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by blackmonsters (Post 20442218)
The truth is that you posted to cry about cops instead of the guy getting murdered in the video.

I hope the nut you busted dripped down into your shoe while you jacked yourself off with this lame whining about cops and their hard job.

I was simply trying to point out how some of this type of stuff happens. I don't know this cop so for all I know the cop in this video was just a psycho, but there is also a chance he lacked training and was over-stressed and he freaked out when the guy tried to grab his tazer and shot before thinking.

The cop deserves to go to jail for the rest of his life.

L-Pink 04-07-2015 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by blackmonsters (Post 20442223)
You mean like this guy right?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-XFYTtgZAlE


One out of hundreds of thousands. Now you're arguing just to push your agenda. Common sense be dammed huh?

blackmonsters 04-07-2015 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Horatio Caine (Post 20442222)
Now we are talking. What took you so long homeboy?

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blackmonsters 04-07-2015 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by kane (Post 20442224)
I was simply trying to point out how some of this type of stuff happens. I don't know this cop so for all I know the cop in this video was just a psycho, but there is also a chance he lacked training and was over-stressed and he freaked out when the guy tried to grab his tazer and shot before thinking.

The cop deserves to go to jail for the rest of his life.

We have a video of how it happened so you don't really need to give us a pro-cop hypothetical.

:2 cents:

L-Pink 04-07-2015 09:54 PM

Blackmonster, if you were giving advise to a room full of people would you tell them A or B?

You have just been stopped by the police, there is an outstanding warrant for your arrest should you ....

A) peacefully be arrested and go to court

B) resist arrest, fight the cop, try to flee


.

kane 04-07-2015 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by blackmonsters (Post 20442229)
We have a video of how it happened so you don't really need to give us a pro-cop hypothetical.

:2 cents:

Actually, if you had basic reading comprehension you would understand that I am pointing out a major flaw in our criminal justice system. It is a not a pro-cop hypothetical. It is reality. I'm not forgiving them. I'm not making excuses for them. I am simply pointing out that our streets are filled with cops who lack training and are often over-stressed and it is only a matter of time until something bad happens with them.

blackmonsters 04-07-2015 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 20442231)
Blackmonster, if you were giving advise to a room full of people would you tell them A or B?

You have just been stopped by the police, there is an outstanding warrant for your arrest should you ....

A) peacefully be arrested and go to court

B) resist arrest, fight the cop, try to flee


.

That's stupid shit you are posting because you are only trying to minimize this murder on tape with that discussion.

Suspects flee everyday, this is not some new shit; but they don't get murdered with gun shots in the back.

Horatio Caine 04-07-2015 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by blackmonsters (Post 20442226)

Eeek. Stayed late for that? I figured you'd be into big black grannies not his nasty shit.

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blackmonsters 04-07-2015 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by kane (Post 20442232)
Actually, if you had basic reading comprehension you would understand that I am pointing out a major flaw in our criminal justice system. It is a not a pro-cop hypothetical. It is reality. I'm not forgiving them. I'm not making excuses for them. I am simply pointing out that our streets are filled with cops who lack training and are often over-stressed and it is only a matter of time until something bad happens with them.

Yeah I fucked up, my reading comprehension is advanced rather than basic and I figured your simple ass out quite quickly.

:2 cents:


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