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SuckOnThis 04-08-2015 08:14 AM
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Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 20442520)
And in what first world country is resisting arrest and fleeing the police legal?

It's situational awareness, you're caught, go peacefully, don't give the cops a chance to shoot you or add more charges, live another day .....


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In what country is it legal for cops to shoot at fleeing suspects? Rwanda? Nazi Germany?

No one is claiming its smart to run from cops, but to use it as some kind of justification is simply a diversion. You either hold cops to a higher standard than everyone else or a lower standard. If your argument is don't run and you won't get shot because cops are to stressed out then you are holding cops to a lower standard than criminals.

Funny how conservatives hate the govt, doesnt trust the govt, yet they have no problem with govt agents shooting people in the back. It defies logic.

L-Pink 04-08-2015 08:27 AM
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Originally Posted by SuckOnThis (Post 20442537)
In what country is it legal for cops to shoot at fleeing suspects? Rwanda? Nazi Germany?

No one is claiming its smart to run from cops, but to use it as some kind of justification is simply a diversion. You either hold cops to a higher standard than everyone else or a lower standard. If your argument is don't run and you won't get shot because cops are to stressed out then you are holding cops to a lower standard than criminals.

Funny how conservatives hate the govt, doesnt trust the govt, yet they have no problem with govt agents shooting people in the back. It defies logic.
I'M NOT JUSTIFYING. I'm commenting on how stupid it is to resist arrest. I'm preaching situational awareness and staying alive when the fucking cops stop you.

Tom_PM 04-08-2015 08:27 AM
People always show up pretending that "if only he hadn't resisted this wouldn't happen". Duh, really?

Here's what we can know with 100% certainty. There will always be someone who doesn't obey, tries to resist and tries to run away. Period. Cops know that. They train for it. The one person in this situation who has received training and certification in handling this is the one charged with murder. So stop pretending you can go back in time and say this is the point where it could have been avoided. You can do that for anything and everything and it's completely useless other than post count plus one.

For every one you see there are 50 more. He planted evidence, invented the story and was getting away with it. Until the video came out.

Like the wild eyed road rage cop. He had 12 prior incidents in the preceding 10 years and many had complaints that he'd acted similarly and he was never punished. Until the video came out.

_Richard_ 04-08-2015 08:30 AM
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Originally Posted by SuckOnThis (Post 20442537)
In what country is it legal for cops to shoot at fleeing suspects? Rwanda? Nazi Germany?

No one is claiming its smart to run from cops, but to use it as some kind of justification is simply a diversion. You either hold cops to a higher standard than everyone else or a lower standard. If your argument is don't run and you won't get shot because cops are to stressed out then you are holding cops to a lower standard than criminals.

Funny how conservatives hate the govt, doesnt trust the govt, yet they have no problem with govt agents shooting people in the back. It defies logic.
i wonder if he feels if it's the runners fault the cop is now being charged with murder.

to answer your third world question.. that person is from a place where you can wear lizard skin shoes, while complaining about 'faggots being everywhere' :1orglaugh

L-Pink 04-08-2015 08:35 AM
[QUOTE=Jel;20442531]
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Originally Posted by Jel (Post 20442503)

It's not, but it's kinda separate. It's like saying don't answer your husband if he's drunk and he won't flip out and beat the shit out of you. Completely factual, but diverting blame, even if it's 1%, away from where the blame needs to 100% go :2 cents:

It's human nature for some to run, it's human nature for some wives to answer back in the heat of the moment, it's human nature that I talk back and act like an asshole to someone who is an asshole to me, even if I know I'm gonna get the shit kicked out of me, but there's just zero way it's acceptable to shoot someone for running from the law, just like it's wholly wrong to stab a child for smart mouthing. It's dumb of a kid to smart-mouth a parent with a history of stabbing them, but much like these people who run because they have outstanding child support payments, that kind of over-reaction completely cancels out the first action, because they are literally too stupid, and don't have the mental capacity to understand there's gonna be a bad outcome. As much as I like to joke around, or reference darwin's award, or whatever, you just can't kill someone for being of a dumb IQ. I think that's what the others are saying (well obviously), but they aren't getting where you're coming from, dareisay because it's kinda irrelevant *within this set of circumstances*. He shouldn't have got behind on his payments, or had a busted taillight - which he most likely knew about, but like you said earlier - knowingly broke that law because he'd gamble on taking the consequence, same as he gambled on running and taking that consequence. You spoke earlier of how you know you break some laws - what if one day you hit the news because a psycho cop kills you, and a bunch of people on the internet said 'yeah but he didn't have his seatbelt on, he *knew* that was wrong, if he hadn't done that, he'd be alive today'. They'd be stating fact, but it wouldn't really be relevant in a thread somewhere about a berserk cop over-reacting :2 cents:

You're looking at the dead guys actions from the point of reference that has *your* intelligence, not his, is what I'm guessing people are getting upset about.

Good points. thanks.

Sometimes stating the obvious isn't obvious. lol


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xXXtesy10 04-08-2015 08:44 AM
cop pimp punching pregnant woman :1orglaugh

Grapesoda 04-08-2015 08:48 AM
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Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 20442488)
Fuck you. Your reading comprehension isn't any better than the white balance in your photos.
:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

L-Pink 04-08-2015 08:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Grapesoda (Post 20442588)
:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh
He needs to start shooting on auto or upgrade to an iPhone. Fucking horrible photos.

Acepimp 04-08-2015 08:54 AM
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Originally Posted by SuckOnThis (Post 20442443)
Do you tell abused women its their fault for talking back to their man? Fucking dumbasses.
On what planet is this comparison relevant to this conversation? Of course the cop went too far. I'm not saying it was the black guy's fault. The point is this wouldn't have happened if he hadn't tried to run. Not a hard concept to grasp..

Tom_PM 04-08-2015 09:02 AM
Of course, and if people would stop looking at free porn, all of our sales would be way way up. Also amazingly simple concept to grasp. Was it helpful? Does it really bear repeating every time someone complains about sales? It's like saying "I like turtles".

SIK 04-08-2015 09:05 AM
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Originally Posted by _Richard_ (Post 20442556)
to answer your third world question.. that person is from a place where you can wear lizard skin shoes, while complaining about 'faggots being everywhere' :1orglaugh
:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh
I wouldn't describe it better myself

SuckOnThis 04-08-2015 09:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Acepimp (Post 20442594)
I'm not saying it was the black guy's fault. The point is this wouldn't have happened if he hadn't tried to run.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

This is like saying 'I'm not saying the sun is hot, but if the sun weren't out it wouldn't be hot'.

Acepimp 04-08-2015 10:03 AM
Hey Suckonthis, no disrespect, I know this is your thread, but wtf are you saying? I stated a simple fact. Did this man deserve to get killed? NO. I already said that if you provoke a cop, you don't know if you're dealing with one of the bad ones who do this shit expecting to get away with it. This fucker planted a taser on the guy he killed. Without the video he would totally get away with this murder.

dyna mo 04-08-2015 10:08 AM
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Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 20442488)
Fuck you. Your reading comprehension isn't any better than the white balance in your photos. I didn't take the cops side I commented on how stupid it is to resist arrest. Idiot.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh
you'd think that with all his white privilege knowledge he'd have figured out white balance by now.

2MuchMark 04-08-2015 10:09 AM
The cop should be sent to prison for the maximum time required by law, for murder.

420 04-08-2015 10:12 AM
I have a solution. Make it legal to use deadly force against fleeing suspects. This will help the cops get their jollies and less people will resist arrest once they learn they'll be shot.

L-Pink 04-08-2015 10:15 AM
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Originally Posted by ********** (Post 20442661)
The cop should be sent to prison for the maximum time required by law, for murder.
Agreed.

But it doesn't much matter who's right or wrong if you are dead.

Tom_PM 04-08-2015 10:18 AM
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Originally Posted by 420 (Post 20442663)
I have a solution. Make it legal to use deadly force against fleeing suspects. This will help the cops get their jollies and less people will resist arrest once they learn they'll be shot.
That used to be legal to do until it was found being abused and too many people were being killed. I'm afraid the police are simply going to have to stop shooting too many people. It really couldn't be more obvious that this is entirely their problem. But that doesn't seem to be taking hold for a lot of people yet.

j3rkules 04-08-2015 10:23 AM
The cop seemed pretty calm about the whole situation, just another day at the office. Make sure you have all your bases covered for the shooting review, Shot unarmed black man, check. Plant evidence near body, check. State the man was going for my gun or I was in fear of my life, check. Write up and falsify report, check. Did we miss anything?




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Bryan G 04-08-2015 10:35 AM
Had there been no video he would not have been charged. Can you imagine how many times something like this has happened in the past.

SongRider 04-08-2015 10:46 AM
Maybe Black Americans just need to start buying LOTS of guns... AR-15's - Glocks - 45's - 12 ga. Shotguns - 357 Magnums - 38 snub nose specials... Just start buying the CRAP outta guns!!!

If cops start fearing these folks in these neighborhoods just might start shooting back then maybe they will think twice about using KILLING PEOPLE as a first option.

Thats the way white people look at it right? If we ALL live in fear of being shot than the crime rate goes down and we have nothing to fear... And what most of these cops doing the shooting these days are doing is a crime. :thumbsup

dyna mo 04-08-2015 10:48 AM
i decided to do some googling to answer my question re: the chemicals involved in that cop's hyper reaction and i came across some interesting and new research, if anyone is interested

basically, it seems to be a decrease in serotonin, an increase in oxytocin and a release of
arginine-vasopressin (avp)

the decrease in serotonin detail:

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The brain chemical serotonin has long been known to play an important role in regulating anger and aggression. Low cerebrospinal fluid concentrations of serotonin have even been cited as both a marker and predictor of aggressive behavior.
New studies from the Netherlands, however, indicate that this serotonin-deficiency hypothesis of aggressiveness may be too simple. "Serotonin deficiency appears to be related to pathological, violent forms of aggressiveness, but not to the normal aggressive behavior that animals and humans use to adapt to everyday survival," says Sietse de Boer, PhD, of the University of Groningen.
Furthermore, research now suggests that unchecked aggressive behavior can eventually change the brain in ways that cause serotonin activity to decrease-and, perhaps, violent behavior to increase.
perhaps this cop has had a series of unchecked aggressive behavior that led to an even lower level of serotonin.


the detail on oxytocin and avp:

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Researchers have identified, for the first time, that the release of a neurotransmitter called arginine-vasopressin (AVP) in an area of the brain called the amygdala helps regulate maternal aggression-a behavior that ensures the survival of the offspring. Although the study was conducted using rat dams, maternal aggression occurs in all mammals, including humans.
"By understanding the brain pathways underlying maternal aggression in rodents, we're also gaining deeper understanding of regulation of maternal behavior in general," says Oliver Bosch, PhD, of the University of Regensburg, in Germany.
Much of the past research into the neurobiology of maternal aggression has focused on oxytocin, a neurotransmitter released in the brain during birth and breastfeeding. Oxytocin reduces anxiety and fear, a factor that is believed to enable new mothers to more aggressively face intruders that might harm their offspring.
In his new study, Bosch investigated whether AVP also plays a role in the regulation of maternal aggressiveness. Found in all mammals, AVP is synthesized in the brain and then released to the kidneys, where it helps regulate the body's retention of water. More recently, AVP has been implicated in male aggression and other social behavior, particularly pair-bonding between sexual partners.
Brain Chemicals Involved In Aggression Identified: May Lead To New Treatments -- ScienceDaily

and also a very recent harvard study that points to gun violence being an anger issue and not a mental health issue.

Harvard Study Finds Anger Issues, Not Major Mental Illness, Tied To Gun Violence


i see a correlation.

SuckOnThis 04-08-2015 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Acepimp (Post 20442655)
Hey Suckonthis, no disrespect, I know this is your thread, but wtf are you saying? I stated a simple fact. Did this man deserve to get killed? NO. I already said that if you provoke a cop, you don't know if you're dealing with one of the bad ones who do this shit expecting to get away with it. This fucker planted a taser on the guy he killed. Without the video he would totally get away with this murder.
I'm saying you cannot claim you don't blame the guy and in the same sentence add if he hadn't ran it wouldn't have happened, because that is in fact blaming the guy. It's no different than saying if he'd never met any of his baby's mothers, he wouldn't have gone out with them, wouldn't have had sex with them, wouldn't have had children, he wouldn't have had to pay child support and he wouldn't have gotten behind and wouldn't have a had a family court warrant out for him. If he'd just bought a new car, then he wouldn't have had a busted taillight that caused him to get pulled over. If any of that had happened, he never would have come in contact with this cop and he never would have gotten shot. See how that works? Instead of focusing on the real issue, a cop committing murder.

L-Pink 04-08-2015 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by SuckOnThis (Post 20442756)
I'm saying you cannot claim you don't blame the guy and in the same sentence add if he hadn't ran it wouldn't have happened, because that is in fact blaming the guy.
It doesn't much matter who's right or wrong if you are dead. You'll never get rid of all cops who are inept, crooked, crack under pressure.

When dealing with someone who not only has a gun but a badge to go with it cover your ass. Don't do anything stupid. Be polite, don't resist, tell your side in court, live to see another day.

What I'm saying can be put to good use starting today! Now! Good luck getting the nations police departments revamped ever. I have an immediate common sense solution to needless shootings, you just bitch.


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sandman! 04-08-2015 11:26 AM
he will spend alot of time in jail :2 cents::2 cents:

Horatio Caine 04-08-2015 11:36 AM
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Originally Posted by SuckOnThis (Post 20442448)
STFU racist prick.
great argument faktard

Horatio Caine 04-08-2015 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by brassmonkey (Post 20442458)
:2 cents::2 cents:

100 pig skinz
I thought you got a job at KFC?

SuckOnThis 04-08-2015 11:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Horatio Caine (Post 20442779)
great argument faktard
There is no argument that you're a racist prick.

Horatio Caine 04-08-2015 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted by SuckOnThis (Post 20442784)
There is no argument that you're a racist prick.
No, because you are attention starving welfare bum with iq of my living room temperature. Brassmonkey V2.0

dyna mo 04-08-2015 11:54 AM
150 dead deadbeat dads

mikesouth 04-08-2015 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted by DBS.US (Post 20442001)
The real crime is by the guy that can't hold the camera steady:mad:
at least he /she didnt hold it vertical like most idiots do.

SuckOnThis 04-08-2015 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Horatio Caine (Post 20442791)
No, because you are attention starving welfare bum with iq of my living room temperature. Brassmonkey V2.0
Right, because I point out your racism means I must be black. :1orglaugh

Newsflash Adolph, most white people aren't associated with the KKK.

And speaking of IQ's.....

Low Intelligence Linked To Racism

dyna mo 04-08-2015 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by SuckOnThis (Post 20442874)
And speaking of IQ's.....

Low Intelligence Linked To Racism
that's some dangerous pop psychology right there in that article. attaching racism to a quotient that is controverial in so much that it defines the limit of an individual is misguided and even more importantly, moot.

people can learn to become more tolerant of one another and people can also learn to become less tolerant of one another. to suggest their [silly] intelligence quotient is effected by that is wrong. and vice-versa.

2MuchMark 04-08-2015 01:26 PM
It just got worse.

Now there's a fund setup for the cop that shot the guy.

https://www.facebook.com/SupportMichaelSlager?_rdr

The world is fucked.

dyna mo 04-08-2015 01:28 PM
thanks for spreading the word on that fundraiser, it's people like you getting the message out that funds those. well done.

blackmonsters 04-08-2015 02:41 PM
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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20442885)
that's some dangerous pop psychology right there in that article. attaching racism to a quotient that is controverial in so much that it defines the limit of an individual is misguided and even more importantly, moot.

people can learn to become more tolerant of one another and people can also learn to become less tolerant of one another. to suggest their [silly] intelligence quotient is effected by that is wrong. and vice-versa.

Bullshit.

There is not one shred of evidence that a racist ever changed.

When some people say they are not racist what they really mean is that they haven't killed any niggas.

:2 cents:

Horatio Caine 04-08-2015 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted by SuckOnThis (Post 20442874)
Right, because I point out your racism means I must be black. :1orglaugh

Newsflash Adolph, most white people aren't associated with the KKK.

And speaking of IQ's.....

Low Intelligence Linked To Racism
Never said anything about you being black. Just welfare bum. You make it sound like welfare bum is always black, you racist piece of shit. What was it about your IQ punk? :1orglaugh

dyna mo 04-08-2015 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by blackmonsters (Post 20442982)
Bullshit.

There is not one shred of evidence that a racist ever changed.

When some people say they are not racist what they really mean is that they haven't killed any niggas.

:2 cents:
bullshit.


i tolerate you.

dyna mo 04-08-2015 02:57 PM
31 million google results on how to become more tolerant.

https://www.google.com/search?q=how+...sm=93&ie=UTF-8

Horatio Caine 04-08-2015 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted by blackmonsters (Post 20442982)
Bullshit.

There is not one shred of evidence that a racist ever changed.

When some people say they are not racist what they really mean is that they haven't killed any niggas.

:2 cents:
Niggas as in black or just any color niggas you hate?


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