Granted there is the bad cop factor ... But there also has to be a stress/violence factor that comes into play. How you test for it or train it out is the question. It's a personal challenge adrenaline dump when things turn physical.

For the plain bad cop he's also the one who will steal evidence, etc and how do you find that out until you catch him.

The one thing I do know from bar fight to cop fight is you never let things escalate. Ever. That's why I keep saying do not resist. Be peaceful. Why fight a guy with a gum and a badge and fellow officers to back him up?

i wonder if there's a computer algorithm we can use for that..............

You're right, everyone should resist arrest, fight, run. That way nothing will happen to them. Genius, pure genius.

No matter how many times you say stupid shit and attribute it to me; it will still be your stupid shit that you said.

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Someone read this to BM out loud. But slower, much slower.

L-Pink advise ... when being arrested don't resist.

Blackmonster advise ... when being arrested resist, fight, run. Things will work out better.

No matter how many times you say stupid shit and attribute it to me; it will still be your stupid shit that you said.

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Thank God the guy was white or you would have called me a racist 32 times already. Funny how that works :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh :helpme

what about that mom in the minivan with her kids in New Mexico that ran from the routine traffic stop and the cops shot up her van full of kids? people lose control of themselves, even moms in vans. somehow i don't believe she would ever get the message to just not run from the cops.

btw where is the less intelligent BM twin when you need him the most? He loves this shit.

I always do what a cop wants me to do because I know I'm not winning any arguments. However I've never been held at gun point nor even told to spread eagle. The worst I've dealt with was having a car searched which was not justifiable.

Now you mention stress/violence.. What do you think goes on in the head of these kind of people whom do end up in that situation? Yes we can agree the guy was a criminal, but many people have lots of run ins with the cops with out being a criminal.

If you live in a bad area, you can bet your ass you will likely get pulled over or questioned by cops much more than someone in a nice area. Now you compound that over a life time and then you see this kind of stuff or know people whom have been beaten by cops, ect..ect..

Well then don't you think that these people are also under stress when dealing with cops? Meaning they might be more willing to resist if they have seen the other side of dealing with cops which perhaps you or I haven't?

I agree don't resist but hell this guy didn't resist and they all lined up to each take their shots beating the guy.

I know nothing about that instance. Sounds like some goober shouldn't have had a job where you get issued a gun.

No matter how many times you say stupid shit and attribute it to me; it will still be your stupid shit that you said.

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Well you could say he resisted when he ran from the police at his home then stole a horse and took off. Granted his beating was unjustified, very unjustified but it does make my point to be peaceful. If he hadn't run at his house what are the real odds something violent would have happened. But I get your points.

I'm not being a police advocate, I'm just giving common sense self preservation tips, lol.

A cop's job is to police and protect.. Not to be the jury & executioner. If the guy runs, then you chase him. Yes, I can understand the heat of the moment using a lil extra force to throw the perp on the ground or bang him against the car..

It's completely different to keep beating on someone when they are on the ground and clearly not a threat. It's one thousand times worse to allow fellow officers to come up one by one and continue to beat the guy until they all get their shots in.

Everyone of these cops needs to be handcuffed and beat to shit. This is not their first time doing this and if they do this, then you know damn well they are also arresting people on trumped up charges and generally ruining people's lives. That video shows you very corrupt police department.

Everyone in that department should be fired on the spot because it's very clear this is a normal thing and not one of them would rat the others out even if they don't partake, making them just as responsible and guilty.

No one is going to just walk up and start kicking a guy that has already been on the ground 5 mins unless this is common practice and they knew no one was going to say anything. That entire police department should be fired and those whom took part in this should all be charged with felony assault. Remove their right to carry and gun and get a job as a cop elsewhere.

It is nice having white criminals so we can talk without you calling me a racist for my same opinions.

No matter how many times you say stupid shit and attribute it to me; it will still be your stupid shit that you said.

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I thought he was casino Indian or somffins. This guy just looks dumb. Not Indian dumb.

Is that height correct? Over 7' ... Hard to be a 7 plus foot tall criminal and not get noticed.

Well lets see. Brass was gang banging at 9, stealing cars at 13, pimpin at 16. He had 200 beehives to provide food for his grandchildren. So yes, I think 7' is about right for his story.

Yup sure is, his head is 3' from chin to forehead :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :thumbsup

No shit, that is exactly what I was thinking. Even the latecomers didn't think to point out the fucking news choppers above.

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http://161crew.bzzz.net/wp-content/u...2/12/acab2.jpg

Police is supposed to enforce the law, and preferably be the good guy. You just try to justify unlegal actions due to someone elses unlegal actions. So what if people (any people) do crimes, is that what you mean? Or it is OK if police do crimes, as it is the police (maybe supposed to do crimes in US)?

They probably thought it being their own copter, as the other one probably was, and as Crockett pointed out; the whole police department is probably so rotten that no one cares a shit worth about law or justice altogether (or they have their own sense about justice).

They were likely police choppers and someone leaked the tape. Cops use choppers for this kind of thing as a very common tactic. It's just probably the one non asshole cop decided to leak the video to the news. If it were a news chopper, there would be some butt head reporter talking the whole time..

This is how you know that entire department is corrupt, because they probably assumed the tape would get erased.

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Did you watch the video?

The very first thing that you hear is "News Chopper 4" with a giant News 4 watermark in the corner of the video. She talked all the way through it until the beating started.

This is something I can agree with. The cops are supposed to be "better" than the criminals. I guess however they have probably always been corrupt assholes look at Serpico.

Ahh you're right my sound was muted on youtube the 1st time I watched it. I was thinking maybe the water mark was just added in after the fact. I wonder why the reporter stopped talking when they started beating him..

i would think the whole US police system has major flaws

like too much ex-military - people that are used to shoot at anything

and then police training - i read it takes usually about 12 weeks - over here it's 2-3 years

and when you look at a typical police training, you see where the main focus lies on:

Firearms skills 60 hrs
Self-defense 44 hrs

But:
Ethics and integrity 8 hrs
Cultural diversity 8 hrs
Human relations 11 hrs
Use of non-lethal weapons 12 hrs
Stress prevention/management 6 hrs

Police recruit training and academy summary - Discover Policing

and the result you see in the video

There's no reason for them to fear for their life...
Some people might shoot the Sheriff, but no one shoots the deputies. :pimp

After all the discussion of police violence, resisting arrest blah blah blah. I have come to the conclusion that if you do anything that might involve making a pig possibly sweat during an arrest you will be be beaten or shot.

Thank you! Yes. Why? Fear? Retribution? An "understanding"? Why? Feds should look into several issues with this disgusting piece of footage.

But hey, if all of their fathers had only cum into a tissue, none of this would have happened. Right? Yeah, right. It was totally avoidable. If only...

This kid has been in jail since January for 'assaulting police'.

Who assaulted who?

The cops illegally deleted the recording on the girls phone after the incident but she was able to retrieve it in her recently deleted files.

Point out where I justify police actions.

In fact you'll find the opposite.

Sheriff Orders Immediate Internal Investigation Into Arrest Seen on "Disturbing" Video | NBC Southern California

He deserved it !!!!

2 deputies ended up '' dehydrated '' and one got kick by a horse ..

That justifies it all :2 cents:

Criminal law 40 hours. Basically one week worth of studies, not that much. In school we had that much just in introduction course to laws (Finnish laws).

You see, the horse knew better :

Horse didn`t run, didn`t resist, did not talk back :thumbsup