I don't think that applies anyway, when the pursuit is already over.

That post was a joke about someone 73 years old involved in a foot pursuit and having as good a chance of dying of a heart attack as detaining the criminal.

Suspected selling. And yes, if police can't capture suspect, it can be called as "letting go", or something..

Killing suspects over suspect, isn't very good practice, especially as it was not dangerous murder suspect or something.

Everybody has their responsibilities no matter what are the other's responsibilities.

That is so fucking lame to tell that "if that other guy wouldn't have done that and that". Come on, it is police; they are supposed to deal with the guys those don't abide. So there really shouldn't be some lame excuse that the other guy didn't abide. Police is supposed to do his responsibilities in a very common situation in police work; where the other guy doesn't abide.

Your excuse is like fireman would say; "Hey, I would have done my work, but there was some fire going on. Totally not my fault. There shouldn't have been a fire to start with."

:disgust:disgust so you were joking about him dying wow kettle black!
:disgust:disgust i was not joking around

If the guy would have simply stopped his car, handed his license and registration over and said "yes sir" and "no sir" like any reasonable, civilized person,.... he'd be alive today... as is usually the case with 99.9% of these "black guy gets shot by white cop" news stories. It IS that simple.

And as i said, the "officer" was a volunteer, not an actual full time police officer and he clearly fucked up and it does seem he shot him on accident (which makes it kinda worse than intentional, to me). But then again, facts have never stood in anyone's way on this forum.

Basic physics, for every action there is a reaction. The last thing someone should do is provoke a reaction from someone carrying a gun. The lack of situational awareness in these cases is astounding.

Yes, of course there is less troubles for obeying, but there is neither death penalty for not obeying; well, US has all kinds of shit laws, but I don't think that there is death penalty for simply not obeying officer, and surely there is not in civilized countries (USA isn't one). And as I already said; the very starting point in police work is that many people don't obey, that thing shouldn't be very big news.

Volunteer or not, he acted on police duty.

Police's reactions are well pre-defined and in most countries also rehearsed. We are not talking about some Average Joe.

Most surprising is that every time when there is discussion about police work; some people try to steer the attention to elsewhere. "No, no, this is not about police work, this is about criminals. There even isn't police work, only criminals and counter reactions.. by some random guys in random blue uniforms and random guns, randomly shooting people to death. Basic USA stuff. But nothing about polices." :)

If we would make some research about police work, I guess the title would be: "Criminals in USA." :) If you don't get it, read the previous paragraph again.

You must comply with the lawful command of a police officer. There is no argument there. There is no death penalty for anything in this scenario. Anyone with a brain can agree the guy did not deserve to die. It was an accident as the video clearly demonstrates. There is a guy who acted stupidly, took police on a chase, then started to run and when he was finally tackled, continued to resist. The officer intended to hit him with his stun gun and instead shot him with his pistol. It was not intentional. The guy is only dead because of his own actions and behavior.

what??? Oklahoma deputy charged in suspect's shooting death - Yahoo News you cant shoot a guy on the ground being cuffed!

We get it... the race baiting gangbanger that hates police is always going to say the same thing "he din do nuffins!"

My point which are you wholly incapable of grasping, was the victim escalated the situation to that point where he was accidentally shot. Not the officers. And no you stupid fuckwit, thats not the same as me saying "its ok the guy got shot".

drop the fucking race part :2 cents::2 cents: he shot a man arrested one wrist was cuffed when he was shot the other arm on his back. you seem to blame the dead guy. :disgust can actually function and talk like you are not at happy hour? you're pretty childish

The guy is dead because police shot him. You are just trying to get the police out of this equation.

I have been in army, and the killing part is quite clear (not seen action). The enemy unfortunately doesn't die solely to its own actions. It of course would make things so much easier if it would.

WHOA!

The race part???

You mean like the fucking thread title you created, you race baiting, gangbanging piece of shit.

The dead guy put himself in that position and was continuing to resist right to the very end.

The cop accidentally shot him, meaning to use his taser, not his pistol, hence the charge of manslaughter.

i've said again and again that the cop was obviously wrong to shoot him. thats not even a disputable fact. consider that fact... why you are so blind to anything other than "police are wrong no matter what" and "dead guy is right no matter what" and why you keep twisting things around and ignoring facts to fit your own personal narrative.

like i said earlier Ap wrote the article. go look Police video shows killing of black Oklahoma suspect - Yahoo News so you think the cop should walk??? :helpme what would you do if you were his boss? lets hear it.

I am discussing about police work, not about the dead guy. I already pointed that both have their separate responsibilities; and now the focus is in the police's responsibilities. The thread title too is quite much focusing to police, not to the responsibilities of average Joe.

And I haven't said anything even remotely resembling; "police are wrong no matter what".

Are you people fully fucking retarded? The cop was obviously wrong. I've said it again and again.

The victim was also obviously in the wrong.

The victim would be alive right now had he not escalated the situation to the point the officer, after everything still needed to use his stun gun.

The cop is now being charged with second degree manslaughter.

How stupid are you? Whats with the non stop idiotic rhetorical questions as a deflection from simple facts?

Can a black guy ever be wrong in your world?

And why is it that i know so many intelligent black people that act as I do when i get pulled over and have no problems just as i never do? Strange coincidence? Or maybe they are just all the products of a 2 parent family and good parenting instead of being raised to be self entitled little shits.

1) Commit a crime
2) Resist arrest
3) Get shot

While the actions of the police are sometimes far from perfect step three can easily be prevented by not ..............

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ok both were wrong :2 cents: you cant charge a dead man right? so why even argue that side of it?? you cant talk without name calling. controlling yourself you cannot i see - yoda

Yes, police should avoid doing the step one. As in most countries it is unlegal to shoot people with wrong grounds aka committing crime.

Listen to the lyrics of this song starting at 0:52; that syncs it up to the radio playing in the cop car of the other shooting.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8gZEox8Crwc



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-7gg-HUAYg4



Deep.

Stop laughing and answer the questions .......


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All i've said is they are both are wrong. All you have said (and others) is the cop is wrong.

And the simple fact is that if you don't commit a crime, don't evade police and take them on a high speed chase (endangering the lives of others, as well as the officers), then bail and run on foot, then get tackled and then continue to resist (again, endangering the lives of officers)... you don't tend to get shot by police, accidentally or otherwise.

A lot more lives would be saved by simply encouraging people to follow the rules, than blaming anyone and everyone else to defend the behavior of the perp.

OK OK OK .... we have shitty trigger happy police in the US! Is that what you wanted someone to finally say? And why do you care?


And with that being said what kind of stupid asshole still resists arrest?


And you missed the point of my 1,2,3 post completely.

well why even talk the dead guy? he cant be charged. why was he trying to taser him? was no reason to! he was in compliance already :Oh crap also i noticed you started using you guys and you blacks :1orglaugh cops are killing all races go youtube sum shootings by unarmed suspects. :2 cents::2 cents:

I thought I have already said that, at least in some thread, but yes. Though that was not the point, as that is obvious and saying it would be mute. I try to say more like "Step it up.", and I am not referring to the criminals in general.

And yes, there are stupid assholes in US. You can always hope that not that many in the police. Maybe the resisting ones have better picture about US police?

Don't you have a Crip function you're late for?

What does "charging him" have to do with the fact that he was in the wrong, as well? Nothing. You just want his idiotic and criminal behavior out of the equation to focus 100% on your continuous "all cops are assholes" narrative.

Uhmm.. yeah, "he was in compliance"... he was a low life, selling an illegal gun to an undercover cop, then he ran, then he had to be tackled and in the video, another yelling to him to "stop fighting" as he the officer tries to roll him over. Not only was he clearly "complying"... he could have been citizen of the year.

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you have lack of focus and deep anger :2 cents:

I just don't like human trash like you. Which were you lying about? Living in Compton and being a Crip since you were 9 years old? Or working for PayPal? Or both?

Owning 200 beehives and providing food for his grandchildren. Just to add a few. This whacko makes edgeprod look like an amateur.

now you are making up shit. fuking idiot! i guess you get off on making shit up. im down to 10 hives. welcome to ignore! feeding my grand kids with hives?? you are a damn fool!

Compton is a popular place to have 200 beehives.... especially when you have Crip bees makin Crip honey.

Down to 10? Picked up another 5 over the weekend?


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You claimed to put me on ignore just a mere few hours ago. How'd that work out for ya?

We should work backwards and list the few things that you've been honest about... before we get to all the obvious lies.

no i split the hives. nuff said :2 cents: its 10
you have that gfy serial stalker gene

I be raisn' bee's til i die mutherfucka!

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using this event to argue against body cameras doesn't sit right. besides, the huge cost of resources of massive amounts of training, how would a demilitarization happen when a large number of Iraq and Afghanistan and elsewhere veterans are cops and the judicial system is skewed to give cops the benefit of the doubt.


and yes, i'm certain i can find some study that points to body cameras contributing to stopping cops acting out.

there is no panacea,

and that's why people here argue that perps need to do what the fucking cops tell them to do and not put themselves in danger of pissing off a fuckwad with a badge and a gun with 2 tours of duty in a shithole 10000 miles away where he lived and killed in a hot zone, back here with the same weapon and a legal system that has his back.

The primary benefit of body cameras is that it almost completely wipes out complaints against police and minimizes lawsuits.

plenty of all kinds of benefits to cops wearing body cams- increased officer professionalism, increased transparency, more evidence, recording policy and procedure as they are implemented in reality for effectiveness.

all that add ups to fewer and smaller claims and that should be a huge reason to adopt it.

went ahead and did a bit of googling:

In 2012, the police department in Rialto, California, in partnership with the University of Cambridge-Institute of Criminology (UK), examined whether body-worn cameras would have any impact on the number of complaints against officers or on officers’ use of force.

Over the course of one year, the department randomly assigned body-worn cameras to various frontline officers across 988 shifts. The study found that there was a 60 percent reduction in officer use of force incidents following camera deployment, and during the experiment, the shifts without cameras experienced twice as many use of force incidents as shifts with cameras.

The study also found that there was an 88 percent reduction in the number of citizen complaints between the year prior to camera implementation and the year following deployment. Chief of Police William Farrar of Rialto, who oversaw the study, said, “Whether the reduced number of complaints was because of the officers behaving better or the citizens behaving better—well, it was probably a little bit of both.”

http://www.justice.gov/iso/opa/resou...4715246869.pdf

crockett, body cameras go a long way toward resolving the issue.

Why didn't you split them in to 20?

and i think the cameras need to go one big step further, the audio needs to be monitored and profiled in an algorithm designed to discover rogue cops before they go rogue.

because that would most likely kill them. next time you make pancakes (if you do ) put 4 times the water :)

And what about Compton and crips part? i missed that story.