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brassmonkey 04-13-2015 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 20447374)
which are you lying about... working for Paypal or being a Crip since you were 9 years old?
Simple question right?

why didnt you get troll of the year???? :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh :helpme:helpme :disgust later im making beer :thumbsup

TheSquealer 04-13-2015 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by brassmonkey (Post 20447391)
why didnt you get troll of the year???? :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh :helpme:helpme :disgust later im making beer :thumbsup

I'm concerned for the safely of a person who would claim to be from Compton,... then claim he's also a member of the Crips since he was 9 years old, while lying about working for Paypal.

Help me, help you.

TheSquealer 04-13-2015 11:01 AM

http://www.acts8moment.org/wp-conten...nearshore1.jpg

mineistaken 04-13-2015 01:25 PM

It is funny how "anti racists" insist on emphasizing the races of both parties.
To normal people it is cop vs perp. To race mongering shit stains it is white vs black.

brassmonkey 04-13-2015 01:29 PM

charges have been filed! the family of Eric Harris are suing the department

L-Pink 04-13-2015 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by brassmonkey (Post 20447568)
charges have been filed! the family of Eric Harris are suing the department

Hey Crip, stop gloating you dick. Someone died.

Your agenda is getting disgusting.

brassmonkey 04-13-2015 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 20447586)
Hey Crip, stop gloating you dick. Someone died.

Your agenda is getting disgusting.

gloating thats what is the update :Oh crap

nico-t 04-13-2015 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by brassmonkey (Post 20447268)
stfu asshole

great answer you idiot :thumbsup

brassmonkey 04-13-2015 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by nico-t (Post 20447596)
great answer you idiot :thumbsup

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

aka123 04-13-2015 02:14 PM

Funny.

After the guy had been shot and wriggles in pain and shouts, some officer says "Stop fighting." Yes, good advice, but the officer seems to lack empathy. You know, the ability to put herself into another human's shoes, in this case into the shot one's.

aka123 04-13-2015 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 20446801)
An armed 73 year old guy involved in foot pursuit?

The guy had three choices, shoot him with a gun, shoot him with a taser, have a heart attack.

I don't think that applies anyway, when the pursuit is already over.

L-Pink 04-13-2015 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by aka123 (Post 20447625)
I don't think that applies anyway, when the pursuit is already over.

That post was a joke about someone 73 years old involved in a foot pursuit and having as good a chance of dying of a heart attack as detaining the criminal.

aka123 04-13-2015 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Horatio Caine (Post 20446818)
He was selling illegal weapon to undercover cup. Let him go?

Suspected selling. And yes, if police can't capture suspect, it can be called as "letting go", or something..

Killing suspects over suspect, isn't very good practice, especially as it was not dangerous murder suspect or something.

aka123 04-13-2015 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 20447307)
I'm not condoning what happened.... but in 99.9% of these "incidents", there is a guy who did everything in his power to escalate the situation, rather than just acting human, stopping, complying and going on his way.

You know, like normal, civilized, law abiding people do.

he was shot by accident in the heat of the moment by a part time volunteer cop... a major fuckup. But its a situation that could have easily been avoided by him not creating it to begin with.

Everybody has their responsibilities no matter what are the other's responsibilities.

That is so fucking lame to tell that "if that other guy wouldn't have done that and that". Come on, it is police; they are supposed to deal with the guys those don't abide. So there really shouldn't be some lame excuse that the other guy didn't abide. Police is supposed to do his responsibilities in a very common situation in police work; where the other guy doesn't abide.

Your excuse is like fireman would say; "Hey, I would have done my work, but there was some fire going on. Totally not my fault. There shouldn't have been a fire to start with."

brassmonkey 04-13-2015 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 20447631)
That post was a joke about someone 73 years old involved in a foot pursuit and having as good a chance of dying of a heart attack as detaining the criminal.

:disgust:disgust so you were joking about him dying wow kettle black!
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Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 20447586)
Hey Crip, stop gloating you dick. Someone died.

Your agenda is getting disgusting.

:disgust:disgust i was not joking around

TheSquealer 04-13-2015 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by aka123 (Post 20447645)
Everybody has their responsibilities no matter what are the other's responsibilities.

That is so fucking lame to tell that "if that other guy wouldn't have done that and that". Come on, it is police; they are supposed to deal with the guys those don't abide. So there really shouldn't be some lame excuse that the other guy didn't abide. Police is supposed to do his responsibilities in a very common situation in police work; where the other guy doesn't abide.

Your excuse is like fireman would say; "Hey, I would have done my work, but there was some fire going on. Totally not my fault. There shouldn't have been a fire to start with."

If the guy would have simply stopped his car, handed his license and registration over and said "yes sir" and "no sir" like any reasonable, civilized person,.... he'd be alive today... as is usually the case with 99.9% of these "black guy gets shot by white cop" news stories. It IS that simple.

And as i said, the "officer" was a volunteer, not an actual full time police officer and he clearly fucked up and it does seem he shot him on accident (which makes it kinda worse than intentional, to me). But then again, facts have never stood in anyone's way on this forum.

L-Pink 04-13-2015 02:55 PM

Basic physics, for every action there is a reaction. The last thing someone should do is provoke a reaction from someone carrying a gun. The lack of situational awareness in these cases is astounding.

aka123 04-13-2015 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 20447660)
If the guy would have simply stopped his car, handed his license and registration over and said "yes sir" and "no sir" like any reasonable, civilized person,.... he'd be alive today... as is usually the case with 99.9% of these "black guy gets shot by white cop" news stories. It IS that simple.

And as i said, the "officer" was a volunteer, not an actual full time police officer and he clearly fucked up and it does seem he shot him on accident (which makes it kinda worse than intentional, to me). But then again, facts have never stood in anyone's way on this forum.

Yes, of course there is less troubles for obeying, but there is neither death penalty for not obeying; well, US has all kinds of shit laws, but I don't think that there is death penalty for simply not obeying officer, and surely there is not in civilized countries (USA isn't one). And as I already said; the very starting point in police work is that many people don't obey, that thing shouldn't be very big news.

Volunteer or not, he acted on police duty.

aka123 04-13-2015 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 20447671)
Basic physics, for every action there is a reaction. The last thing someone should do is provoke a reaction from someone carrying a gun. The lack of situational awareness in these cases is astounding.

Police's reactions are well pre-defined and in most countries also rehearsed. We are not talking about some Average Joe.

Most surprising is that every time when there is discussion about police work; some people try to steer the attention to elsewhere. "No, no, this is not about police work, this is about criminals. There even isn't police work, only criminals and counter reactions.. by some random guys in random blue uniforms and random guns, randomly shooting people to death. Basic USA stuff. But nothing about polices." :)

If we would make some research about police work, I guess the title would be: "Criminals in USA." :) If you don't get it, read the previous paragraph again.

TheSquealer 04-13-2015 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by aka123 (Post 20447679)
Yes, of course there is less troubles for obeying, but there is neither death penalty for not obeying; well, US has all kinds of shit laws, but I don't think that there is death penalty for simply not obeying officer, and surely there is not in civilized countries (USA isn't one). And as I already said; the very starting point in police work is that may people don't obey, that thing shouldn't be very big news.

Volunteer or not, he acted on police duty.

You must comply with the lawful command of a police officer. There is no argument there. There is no death penalty for anything in this scenario. Anyone with a brain can agree the guy did not deserve to die. It was an accident as the video clearly demonstrates. There is a guy who acted stupidly, took police on a chase, then started to run and when he was finally tackled, continued to resist. The officer intended to hit him with his stun gun and instead shot him with his pistol. It was not intentional. The guy is only dead because of his own actions and behavior.

brassmonkey 04-13-2015 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 20447684)
You must comply with the lawful command of a police officer. There is no death penalty for anything in this scenario. Anyone with a brain can agree the guy did not deserve to die. It was an accident as the video clearly demonstrates. There is a guy who acted stupidly, took police on a chase, then started to run and when he was finally tackled, continued to resist. The officer intended to hit him with his stun gun and instead shot him with his pistol. It was not intentional. The guy is only dead because of his own actions and behavior.

what??? Oklahoma deputy charged in suspect's shooting death - Yahoo News you cant shoot a guy on the ground being cuffed!

TheSquealer 04-13-2015 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by brassmonkey (Post 20447686)
what??? Oklahoma deputy charged in suspect's shooting death - Yahoo News you cant shoot a guy on the ground being cuffed!

We get it... the race baiting gangbanger that hates police is always going to say the same thing "he din do nuffins!"

My point which are you wholly incapable of grasping, was the victim escalated the situation to that point where he was accidentally shot. Not the officers. And no you stupid fuckwit, thats not the same as me saying "its ok the guy got shot".

brassmonkey 04-13-2015 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 20447691)
We get it... the race baiting gangbanger that hates police is always going to say the same thing "he din do nuffins!"

My point which are you wholly incapable of grasping, was the victim escalated the situation to that point where he was accidentally shot. Not the officers. And no you stupid fuckwit, thats not the same as me saying "its ok the guy got shot".

drop the fucking race part :2 cents::2 cents: he shot a man arrested one wrist was cuffed when he was shot the other arm on his back. you seem to blame the dead guy. :disgust can actually function and talk like you are not at happy hour? you're pretty childish

aka123 04-13-2015 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 20447684)
You must comply with the lawful command of a police officer. There is no argument there. There is no death penalty for anything in this scenario. Anyone with a brain can agree the guy did not deserve to die. It was an accident as the video clearly demonstrates. There is a guy who acted stupidly, took police on a chase, then started to run and when he was finally tackled, continued to resist. The officer intended to hit him with his stun gun and instead shot him with his pistol. It was not intentional. The guy is only dead because of his own actions and behavior.

The guy is dead because police shot him. You are just trying to get the police out of this equation.

I have been in army, and the killing part is quite clear (not seen action). The enemy unfortunately doesn't die solely to its own actions. It of course would make things so much easier if it would.

TheSquealer 04-13-2015 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by brassmonkey (Post 20447694)
drop the fucking race part :2 cents::2 cents: he shot a man arrested one wrist was cuffed when he was shot the other arm on his back. you seem to blame the dead guy. :disgust

WHOA!

The race part???

You mean like the fucking thread title you created, you race baiting, gangbanging piece of shit.

The dead guy put himself in that position and was continuing to resist right to the very end.

The cop accidentally shot him, meaning to use his taser, not his pistol, hence the charge of manslaughter.

TheSquealer 04-13-2015 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by aka123 (Post 20447701)
The guy is dead because police shot him. You are just trying to get the police out of this equation.

I have been in army, and the killing part is quite clear (not seen action). The enemy unfortunately doesn't die solely to its own actions. It of course would make things so much easier if it would.

i've said again and again that the cop was obviously wrong to shoot him. thats not even a disputable fact. consider that fact... why you are so blind to anything other than "police are wrong no matter what" and "dead guy is right no matter what" and why you keep twisting things around and ignoring facts to fit your own personal narrative.

brassmonkey 04-13-2015 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 20447702)
WHOA!

The race part???

You mean like the fucking thread title you created, you race baiting, gangbanging piece of shit.

The dead guy put himself in that position and was continuing to resist right to the very end.

The cop accidentally shot him, meaning to use his taser, not his pistol, hence the charge of manslaughter.

like i said earlier Ap wrote the article. go look Police video shows killing of black Oklahoma suspect - Yahoo News so you think the cop should walk??? :helpme what would you do if you were his boss? lets hear it.

aka123 04-13-2015 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 20447707)
i've said again and again that the cop was obviously wrong to shoot him. thats not even a disputable face. consider that fact... why you are so blind to anything other than "police are wrong no matter what" and "dead guy is right no matter what" and why you keep twisting things around and ignoring facts to fit your own personal narrative.

I am discussing about police work, not about the dead guy. I already pointed that both have their separate responsibilities; and now the focus is in the police's responsibilities. The thread title too is quite much focusing to police, not to the responsibilities of average Joe.

And I haven't said anything even remotely resembling; "police are wrong no matter what".

TheSquealer 04-13-2015 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by brassmonkey (Post 20447712)
like i said earlier Ap wrote the article. go look Police video shows killing of black Oklahoma suspect - Yahoo News so you think the cop should walk??? :helpme what would you do if you were his boss? lets here it.

Are you people fully fucking retarded? The cop was obviously wrong. I've said it again and again.

The victim was also obviously in the wrong.

The victim would be alive right now had he not escalated the situation to the point the officer, after everything still needed to use his stun gun.

The cop is now being charged with second degree manslaughter.

How stupid are you? Whats with the non stop idiotic rhetorical questions as a deflection from simple facts?

Can a black guy ever be wrong in your world?

And why is it that i know so many intelligent black people that act as I do when i get pulled over and have no problems just as i never do? Strange coincidence? Or maybe they are just all the products of a 2 parent family and good parenting instead of being raised to be self entitled little shits.

L-Pink 04-13-2015 03:32 PM

1) Commit a crime
2) Resist arrest
3) Get shot

While the actions of the police are sometimes far from perfect step three can easily be prevented by not ..............

.

brassmonkey 04-13-2015 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 20447716)
Are you people fully fucking retarded? The cop was obviously wrong. I've said it again and again.

The victim was also obviously in the wrong.

The victim would be alive right now had he not escalated the situation to the point the officer, after everything still needed to use his stun gun.

The cop is now being charged with second degree manslaughter.

How stupid are you? Whats with the non stop idiotic rhetorical questions as a deflection from simple facts?

Can a black guy ever be wrong in your world?

And why is it that i know so many intelligent black people that act as I do when i get pulled over and have no problems just as i never do? Strange coincidence? Or maybe they are just all the products of a 2 parent family and good parenting instead of being raised to be self entitled little shits.


ok both were wrong :2 cents: you cant charge a dead man right? so why even argue that side of it?? you cant talk without name calling. controlling yourself you cannot i see - yoda

aka123 04-13-2015 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 20447718)
1) Commit a crime
2) Resist arrest
3) Get shot

While the actions of the police are sometimes far from perfect step three can easily be prevented by not ..............

.

Yes, police should avoid doing the step one. As in most countries it is unlegal to shoot people with wrong grounds aka committing crime.

blackmonsters 04-13-2015 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by aka123 (Post 20447612)
Funny.

After the guy had been shot and wriggles in pain and shouts, some officer says "Stop fighting." Yes, good advice, but the officer seems to lack empathy. You know, the ability to put herself into another human's shoes, in this case into the shot one's.


Listen to the lyrics of this song starting at 0:52; that syncs it up to the radio playing in the cop car of the other shooting.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8gZEox8Crwc



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-7gg-HUAYg4



Deep.

L-Pink 04-13-2015 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 20447374)
which are you lying about... working for Paypal or being a Crip since you were 9 years old?
Simple question right?

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Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 20447396)
I'm concerned for the safely of a person who would claim to be from Compton,... then claim he's also a member of the Crips since he was 9 years old, while lying about working for Paypal.

Help me, help you.

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Originally Posted by brassmonkey (Post 20447601)
:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh


Stop laughing and answer the questions .......


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TheSquealer 04-13-2015 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by brassmonkey (Post 20447720)
ok both were wrong :2 cents: you cant charge a dead man right? so why even argue that side of it?? you cant talk without name calling. controlling yourself you cannot i see - yoda

All i've said is they are both are wrong. All you have said (and others) is the cop is wrong.

And the simple fact is that if you don't commit a crime, don't evade police and take them on a high speed chase (endangering the lives of others, as well as the officers), then bail and run on foot, then get tackled and then continue to resist (again, endangering the lives of officers)... you don't tend to get shot by police, accidentally or otherwise.

A lot more lives would be saved by simply encouraging people to follow the rules, than blaming anyone and everyone else to defend the behavior of the perp.

L-Pink 04-13-2015 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by aka123 (Post 20447721)
Yes, police should avoid doing the step one. As in most countries it is unlegal to shoot people with wrong grounds aka committing crime.

OK OK OK .... we have shitty trigger happy police in the US! Is that what you wanted someone to finally say? And why do you care?


And with that being said what kind of stupid asshole still resists arrest?


And you missed the point of my 1,2,3 post completely.

brassmonkey 04-13-2015 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 20447728)
All i've said is they are both are wrong. All you have said (and others) is the cop is wrong.

And the simple fact is that if you don't commit a crime, don't evade police and take them on a high speed chase (endangering the lives of others, as well as the officers), then bail and run on foot, then get tackled and then continue to resist (again, endangering the lives of officers)... you don't tend to get shot by police, accidentally or otherwise.

A lot more lives would be saved by simply encouraging people to follow the rules, than blaming anyone and everyone else to defend the behavior of the perp.

well why even talk the dead guy? he cant be charged. why was he trying to taser him? was no reason to! he was in compliance already :Oh crap also i noticed you started using you guys and you blacks :1orglaugh cops are killing all races go youtube sum shootings by unarmed suspects. :2 cents::2 cents:

aka123 04-13-2015 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 20447729)
OK OK OK .... we have shitty trigger happy police in the US! Is that what you wanted someone to finally say?

And with that being said what kind of stupid asshole still resists arrest?

And you missed the point of my 1,2,3 post completely.

I thought I have already said that, at least in some thread, but yes. Though that was not the point, as that is obvious and saying it would be mute. I try to say more like "Step it up.", and I am not referring to the criminals in general.

And yes, there are stupid assholes in US. You can always hope that not that many in the police. Maybe the resisting ones have better picture about US police?

L-Pink 04-13-2015 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by brassmonkey (Post 20447737)
well why even talk the dead guy? he cant be charged. why was he trying to taser him? was no reason to! he was in compliance already :Oh crap also i noticed you started using you guys and you blacks :1orglaugh cops are killing all races go youtube sum shootings by unarmed suspects. :2 cents::2 cents:

Don't you have a Crip function you're late for?

TheSquealer 04-13-2015 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by brassmonkey (Post 20447737)
well why even talk the dead guy? he cant be charged. why was he trying to taser him? was no reason to! he was in compliance already :Oh crap also i noticed you started using you guys and you blacks :1orglaugh cops are killing all races go youtube sum shootings by unarmed suspects. :2 cents::2 cents:

What does "charging him" have to do with the fact that he was in the wrong, as well? Nothing. You just want his idiotic and criminal behavior out of the equation to focus 100% on your continuous "all cops are assholes" narrative.

Uhmm.. yeah, "he was in compliance"... he was a low life, selling an illegal gun to an undercover cop, then he ran, then he had to be tackled and in the video, another yelling to him to "stop fighting" as he the officer tries to roll him over. Not only was he clearly "complying"... he could have been citizen of the year.


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