thats proof enough for me :thumbsup

Some people sure are funny. They don't consider that there are more UFO programs on in 2015 than ever in the past. They don't seem to know that UFO is one of the most consistently searched high volume terms on the internet since it's inception, and they also don't seem to know that even Bigfoot programs are on the rise today compared to yesterday.

I'm not saying you guys are real, I'm just saying you're not really too observant.

Shit, I'm just a casual Sunday afternoon observer and I sound like a MUFON expert in here.

I love listening to crazy people, I listen to Coast2Coast radio most nights in bed, no idea why I feel so good listening to nutbags, but I do. Some of these people aren't really crazy, they're just childlike in their need to believe in monsters and aliens, others are complete hucksters knowing there are millions who will buy books and videos.

Look up 'Project Pegasus Andrew Basiago', he's a lawyer from Washington state, he fascinates me, I can't decide if he's flat out nuts or just a con man.

That's because there are so many channels that need programming/viewers and it's cheap programming to produce - always can count on lots of people being interested in monsters and aliens, most very simple people and then people like me who like kitschy shit and that whole scene is pure American kitsch.

I give credit to people who say they're not going to use their time wondering about something that will probably never touch them or their families. But an out of hand denier who has not even trivial knowledge but all of the answers just doesn't bring anything to the table.

It would be like having a person who hates photographs and hates naked girls being named a judge in a nude photography contest. Does their opinion even get traction?

Well, not a big deal. I'm a skeptic but I won't close the door on the unknown because one thing I'm certain of is that we don't know everything that is knowable. There are a select few odd stories out there that include police, military and pilot witnesses that are just very hard to understand. I'm also entertained well by the impossible to solve topic.

I thought that the issue is about finding UFOs (aliens more exactly), not UFO programs. :)

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I must have misunderstood the way you put it.

I would say that seeing how most govt.'s keep all the UFO data as classified for decades...and then only release it in redacted form (lots of stuff blanked out) only leads to more speculation on people's parts.

I can't blame people for questioning it. If there's one thing I've learned about history: Govt.'s are always lying to the citizens about something. :(

There are also a couple of cases I saw on History Channel that documented both Pres. Jimmy Carter and Ronald Reagan seeing UFO's earlier in their lives.

Here's the Carter incident:
Jimmy Carter UFO incident - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Here's the Reagan one:
Ronald Reagan's UFO Sightings | Presidential UFO

Not sure if any of it means anything. I still think it's all secret military planes.

Not most of them - ALL of them are drones, planes, test planes, or natural phenomenon.

I knows. And no, nobody saw anything that was Extraterrestrial. Whatever anyone ever sees, anywhere, any time, in all of history, has always and forever been terrestrial. The only extra terrestrial things anyone would have seen were still natural, such as the moon, venus, comments, asteroids, meteors, super novas, etc. Even illusions.


Same here, but I wouldn't say "Yet" I'm a skeptic. I'm a sci-fi fan, AND I'm sceptical of stories that leave out tons of information. You can be a fan of sci-fi, and sci. I'm sure Neil Degrasse Tyson and all of the other brainiacs of the world love Science Fiction too.


I try to give this show a chance, but the host of the show (I never remember his name) can't ask a tough question to save his life. Then again maybe doesn't want to. He just lets the callers or guest drone on and on giving that person full credit, which is I guess what the fans of his show really want.

But the thing is, that unless it is sighting made by army or some other similar government's entity, government isn't the only one that knows about it. For example; if I would see UFO, I wouldn't pick up government hotline to tell about my sighting. Though I could call to police, but what they can do, unless I live in North Korea or something?

Aviation makes quite much UFO sightings; so if governments want to hide something, it is quite extensive job. For example German airline, Italian crew, plane leased from Switzerland, pilot is from Belgium, co-pilot from Germany; they make UFO sighting over France and report it to French air control. Who hides and what and from who?

Why would alien ufos come to earth more than once? Do you know how expensive it is to get here from alpha centauri bb? We don't have anything worth harvesting here on earth. They only wanted two of each animal to grow on their home planet.

Human season is on soon. No limits this time. Limits are anyways for libtard hippies hanging on Alpha Centauri BC, not even BB.. come on.. what is up with that?

There are tons of cases of pilots reporting it. Use Google.

And there are also lots of retired pilots who are on record saying that IF you report a UFO as a working commercial airline pilot...you are immediately removed from your job because they think you're "crazy"

And who would want a guy that might be crazy flying a plane full of people?

Again, I'm not defending it...I'm just saying that instead of asking these questions on GFY, you might enjoy just googling it up, read about it and decide for yourself.

It's interesting if you have a little time to waste. :)

I'm just waiting for my anal probe from the aliens. :1orglaugh

Do you read my posts? I say: "Aviation makes quite much UFO sightings". You reply: "There are tons of cases of pilots reporting it. Use Google."

I don't get it. I say that pilots make much ufo sightings and you reply saying pretty much the same thing. :upsidedow

Also, it depends what you report and when (that losing job part); unidentified object to air control (as you should), or aliens anal probing you, and you tell this in your annual health inspection.

I said quite plainly that "YES" they do see "UFO's" all the time. And that the govt. routinely IGNORES that and that pilots are penalized for reporting it by losing their jobs.

I was agreeing with part of what you said and pointing out why nothing ever comes of it and encouraging you to use Google to read what retired pilots have to say straight from their own mouths. :)

Now government ignores that? :)

I thought that the whole point is to hide the sightings (from media/ public), not to pursue UFO hunts.

Okay, there are lot of sightings, not a new thing. And at least retired pilots reveal all about it; that is to be found in Google, so I have heard. So, where is the evidence that puts all doubt aside? We all already know that there are sightings about UFOs. Only the aliens are missing, and their crafts, or any other proof about those.

This clip comes to mind:

:1orglaugh

That's what I've been saying: I THINK that any "real" UFO sightings are probably top secret military craft.
So "no" the govt. doesn't want that info leaked out I would assume.

I'm also of the opinion that 99.99% of people claiming to have seen UFO's are just people who are seeking attention.

YES, and we all KNOW how stable pilots are right!

Germanwings Crash Exposes History of Denial on Risk of Pilot Suicide

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How do skeptics dismiss incidents involving dozens of witnesses...sometimes many more?

Shag Harbour UFO incident - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

You're exactly right. It would take a shitload of energy and money to get here, and there's nothing that the earth has that isn't already available everywhere else. Even water exists everywhere in our solar system, and probably the galaxy too.


Thats good! The last thing I want is my pilot to see a light in the sky and automatically assume its an alien and panic. A good pilot will look for plausible, logical explanations for what he is seeing. Even if he can't figure it out, jumping to conclusions is the last thing he should do.


Just because a bunch of people saw something doesn't mean that the "something" was alien.

I can connect 2 AR Drones together with a 30 foot piece of ultra-light balsa wood and take it for a fly at night. People will look up and think they see a huge craft in the night sky, hovering or doing "impossible" moves, then call the cops, freak out, and drink koolade, and swear forever afterwards that they KNOW it was aliens. It's not, it never was.

Yeah, that's true.

It was probably several AR drones connected together...in 1967.

so videos like this are hoaxes?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QDIF-ZwJbF0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQmut0XtD3s

same day different angle

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RjGYSGbAEUM
these MUST all be bullshit too

I have a Dropcam set up in my kitchen and that damned Easter bunny still squeaked by somehow without being spotted.

Wow! That's fucking crazy! Has there been an "official" govt. "explanation" for that?

Probably just Venus or "swamp gas". :1orglaugh

The burden of proof is on you... if you are going to insist they aren't bullshit... can you prove they aren't bullshit? It can obviously be easily faked - or do you think Jurassic Park was ... real?

Jurassic Park wasn't a documentary?!

Dude it costs like $4.82 to get here from there. There's an express shuttle.

You can only prove a negative in zero g.

uhmm.... not sure now that i think about it.. watching it again now.

There was at least one official alien reported in New York...
proof is on YouTube... i will try to find it...

Found it... here you go:

Actually these were the last one I saw becoming somehow big news.. and it was 4 years ago.

Thought to add this link as I am using a tube script for an Unexplained Media site. Shits and giggles ..

I wish it were mobile capable tho.

This is my fav ... Unexplained Media - Larry King on UFO Event at Malmstrom

LOL! No.

There are no spacecrafts or aliens from other planets visiting earth. Everything that has ever been seen or photographed has been something else such as natural phenomena, planes, planets, meteors, moons, or faked.

The media doesn't bother showing it because it generates less clicks than it used to, and makes anyone reporting it look like a complete fool.

The government doesn't give a shit. As wonky as they are on other things they at least fund real science like NASA.

Plenty of bullshit. Plenty of poorly written fiction for idiots.

Don't get me wrong - I love Science Fiction and have no trouble getting into a good story. But the crap they throw up on "UFO Hunters" doesn't come close to qualifying.


ok, I'll bite this one. The problem is this: When someone sees something flying around that looks out of this worldly but turns out to be a secret craft, the hate the answer because its not what they expected, so they bend the story to make it fit their own preconceived notions of what it was. It morphs from "Test plane" to "Secret Government Alien-technology-based craft". Sad.

The question to ask is: Are they alien spacecraft? Or are they something else?

Since there is no physical evidence, only photographic, the chances are is that it is not alien for a few reasons:

#1. Something moving that fast through air would make a lot of noise as it pushed the air out of its way while it moved, and would probably be a lot brighter as all that friction would have generated heat.

#2. The way it moves is impossible with the sharp turns, etc. To be able to move and turn like that would require lots of energy to accelerate and decelerate. Just to dump all the energy contained in its momentum alone would create both visual and audio artifacts.

Of course, UFO believers would claim alien technology to explain all of this, and then more stuff to back that claim up, etc etc. You can't win with a UFO belieber.

Could it have been faked? Of course. The people on the corner could have been friends of the filmmaker. The UFO's could be Computer generate effects or maybe even practical effects.

THere's just nothing convincing in this video.

Bingo.