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Robbie 04-23-2015 09:01 AM

Oh well, I guess we're gonna have another election where people are going to argue over which rich, powerful, millionaire Republican or Democrat running for President is the most "connected" to the "normal" people. (hint: correct answer is NONE of them)

Axeman 04-23-2015 10:34 AM

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Bloomberg Businessweek National Correspondent Joshua Green, New York Times reporter Jeremy Peters, MSNBC hosts Joe Scarborough and Mika Brzezinski, and former Vermont Governor and DNC Chairman Howard Dean engaged in a lengthy debate over Peter Schweizer?s forthcoming book ?Clinton Cash? on Thursday?s ?Morning Joe? on MSNBC.

Green said, ?I interviewed the author of ?Clinton Cash? yesterday, Peter Schweizer, author of the controversial book, supposed right-wing hit man. He?s actually working on a similar investigation of Jeb Bush?s finances with a team of researchers that?s going to be published this summer. ? he?s doing the same thing to Jeb Bush, and Jeb Bush?s financial dealings.? Green added that this ?complicates the narrative that liberal interest groups and Clinton supporters have been making that Schweizer is just kind of this partisan warrior simply out to get Hillary Clinton.?
Joshua Green must be a complete liar. ********** and Tony already cleared this up, and its 100% without a doubt a nutjob extreme right wing hack job out to discredit Clinton, and pull the GOP to victory.

pimpmaster9000 04-23-2015 10:53 AM

*cough *cough carlyle *cough cough* bush *cough *cough rich as fuck! *cough *cough US politics LOL

Axeman 04-23-2015 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 20456769)
*cough *cough carlyle *cough cough* bush *cough *cough rich as fuck! *cough *cough US politics LOL

Until you get the money out from top to bottom in politics, there will always be this system without a doubt. Its just to hard for regular people to run against an incumbent, when the money is out there to influence everything.

Should be public funding limits set per candidate, per level of government, and that's it. Do your best, and win. With social media its easier than ever to get your message out to your constituents.

Businesses can still lobby, as we well as citizens, but the only influence they should have is their vote. The tricky part is how you handle situations where they get the wink and nod, and after they retire, they end up with plush jobs with those companies as their payback for the help.

2MuchMark 04-23-2015 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20456241)
**********, we get it. you don't want to know if Hillary has abused her authority. you're a hillitard. we all get that. but you don't get it. you need to embrace it. try and feel good about yourself. while you don't have a nutsack you do have hillary you can cling to and for you, that's what matters.

No Dynamo, you don't get it. First, I live in Canada, so I have no dog in this fight. I can't vote for her even if I wanted to.

My point, that you completely missed twice now, is that Schweizer lied years ago, and now here's another book, paid for by people who's only interest is to win an election, that might contain more lies, etc.

And, just like Fox news, YOU my friend, are passing it off to people here, as if it is a book of truths, and tossing passive-egressive jabs at Hillary Clinton in the process. You are exactly the kind of person that Fox News jizzes on, again and again, and you don't even know it.

Don't you see? They want you to dismiss anyone else with facts or difference of opinion as "libitards" and "Hillitards", because its easy and requires absolutely zero effort.


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Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 20456075)
I can't see her getting away from all these scandals. Bill has personality and charisma and could pull it off for the win no matter what happened, but I can't see Hillary doing it. She's just too cold, bitchy and defiant and the list of problems she has, which have no good explanation is just too long. She won't be able to calmly address any of the issues and will start losing her cool and slipping up under pressure.

Really? I don't know about that... The Bengazzi Scandal turned out to be a big nothing. I see her a lot less cold and bitchy than Chris Christie, and she appears to have a lot more confidence than Marco Rubio. I'm willing to bet that she never loses her cool, and sails right into the white house in 2016.


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Originally Posted by tony286 (Post 20456084)
Nope its a hatch job,I will not vote for her but book shows the gop are scared shit of her.
David Brock goes on the warpath against anti-Clinton book - Nick Gass - POLITICO

I agree. It has to be really tough for the GOP right now. They have to spend so much money - SO MUCH MONEY - to try to defeat her - and they are probably afraid that they won't be able to do it. They lost the lost 2 elections after all...


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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 20456169)
crockett, you're missing my point. You CAN'T remove money. Oh, you can change the law. But people BREAK the law everyday...especially in politics..


Crocket I agree with Robbie on this one (ack!). Big money is forever involved in politics now especially since they removed the spending limit, and allowed the ridiculous Super Pac thing.
And politicians definitely break the law every day, or re-write the laws to let them get away with some of the crap they pull.

But Robbie, Crockett is also right. The laws in the US changed only very recently. This is why the Koch Brothers and the Sheldon Adelsons (sp?) of the world are now allowed to donate millions.


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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20456209)
HIllary must be a decoy this year. the next scandal percolating up for her is the senate investigation into her longtime muslim assistant.

there's no way HIllary ever had a chance to win, i felt strongly about that when the email scandal broke.

Hillary is going to take all the hard hits for Eliabeth Warren, who is right now distancing herself from BO. she'll sweep in for the nom.

Just keep fucking that chicken, Dynamo.

dyna mo 04-23-2015 02:15 PM

**********, why are you against Americans trying to inform ourselves so we can make educated and informed voting decisions?

dyna mo 04-23-2015 02:17 PM

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Axeman 04-23-2015 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20456957)
**********, why are you against Americans trying to inform ourselves so we can make educated and informed voting decisions?

Or why he just glosses over this post, to keep on his Fox news, right wing nut job agenda....

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Businessweek National Correspondent Joshua Green said, ?I interviewed the author of ?Clinton Cash? yesterday, Peter Schweizer, author of the controversial book, supposed right-wing hit man. He?s actually working on a similar investigation of Jeb Bush?s finances with a team of researchers that?s going to be published this summer. ? he?s doing the same thing to Jeb Bush, and Jeb Bush?s financial dealings.? Green added that this ?complicates the narrative that liberal interest groups and Clinton supporters have been making that Schweizer is just kind of this partisan warrior simply out to get Hillary Clinton.?
Or that the NY Times, Washington Post and Fox News all made agreements to get the research from the book early. And it was the NYT that followed up with their own investigation on the Uranium/Russia deal. Also posted above.

Trolling at its best for sure.

pimpmaster9000 04-23-2015 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Axeman (Post 20456939)
Until you get the money out from top to bottom in politics, there will always be this system without a doubt. Its just to hard for regular people to run against an incumbent, when the money is out there to influence everything.

Should be public funding limits set per candidate, per level of government, and that's it. Do your best, and win. With social media its easier than ever to get your message out to your constituents.

Businesses can still lobby, as we well as citizens, but the only influence they should have is their vote. The tricky part is how you handle situations where they get the wink and nod, and after they retire, they end up with plush jobs with those companies as their payback for the help.

US elections are hollywood calibre events, the candidates are superstars, and if they do not shine and sparkle enough and do not have sufficient pedigree americans simply will not vote for them...

the USA is the worlds biggest plutocracy bar none...I do not see things changing without a bloody revolution...against government drones :1orglaugh

mineistaken 04-23-2015 04:21 PM

No biggie, if it was republicans then it would be "evil republicans" theme from board's demtards :)

Robbie 04-23-2015 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by ********** (Post 20456949)
But Robbie, Crockett is also right. The laws in the US changed only very recently. This is why the Koch Brothers and the Sheldon Adelsons (sp?) of the world are now allowed to donate millions.

Actually, the law didn't change. A law that was put in place recently was declared unconstitutional by the Supreme Court. Big difference there.

As for the Koch Brothers (I guess you don't mention the huge amounts that people like Soros contribute to Dems)...they aren't the first or even in the same scale as what was done in the past in this country.

Ever hear of J.P. Morgan? John Rockefeller? Andrew Carnegie? They bought and sold the U.S. govt. at the end of the 19th century and beginning of the 20th.

The Koch Brothers don't even HAVE the kind of money that those guys had (and spent) influencing elections AND the policies of the United States.

My point was (and is), that our country allowed itself to devolve like that. It was never the vision of our founding fathers for these political parties (ANY political party) to run politics.
And no matter what law is passed (and good luck with having the politicians pass any law that takes away money from themselves)...the money will still be there.
Right now it's totally illegal to bribe someone in govt.
Guess what? It happens every hour of every day.

"Laws" don't mean much to people in power. Every once in a great while somebody pisses off the wrong person and shit hits the fan. But it's very, very rare.

To say we have to "take money out" of politics is the same as trying to say the Earth should stop turning. It will not happen.
What we need are better candidates and people who want to serve...not rule.

Rochard 04-23-2015 04:50 PM

Well let's take a look at where Jeb Bush's family gets their money.....

Axeman 04-23-2015 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20457069)
Well let's take a look at where Jeb Bush's family gets their money.....

You will this summer. In a report by.... wait for it.... THE SAME AUTHOR!!!

Robbie 04-23-2015 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Axeman (Post 20457081)
You will this summer. In a report by.... wait for it.... THE SAME AUTHOR!!!

Well, when he writes the Bush one...THEN he will be telling the truth.
It's only lies when it's about a Democrat.

nico-t 04-24-2015 03:24 AM

Surprising that two people from top tier politics are corrupt.

Axeman 04-24-2015 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 20457143)
Well, when he writes the Bush one...THEN he will be telling the truth.
It's only lies when it's about a Democrat.

He'll be the salt of the earth reporter, that all should hold as their role model.


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