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BlackCrayon 05-02-2015 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by wehateporn (Post 20464645)
Excellent argument! Great to see a GFYer with some good old common sense :thumbsup

its extremely poor logic. midfingers kids stand little chance of contracting anything only thanks to the majority of parents who do get their kids vaccinated. if everyone would be like midfinger, then the argument no longer works. just look at all the deaths and permanent disability that existed before vaccines. vaccines are far from perfect but society would be quite different without them and i believe, not for the better.

TheSquealer 05-02-2015 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by WarChild (Post 20464878)
It's sad how stupid you are. Poor children.

The good news is that he's doing everything possible to make sure his genes are cleaned out of the gene pool. Thats good news for all of us. You have to appreciate that at least :)

wehateporn 05-02-2015 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackCrayon (Post 20464879)
its extremely poor logic. midfingers kids stand little chance of contracting anything only thanks to the majority of parents who do get their kids vaccinated. if everyone would be like midfinger, then the argument no longer works. just look at all the deaths and permanent disability that existed before vaccines. vaccines are far from perfect but society would be quite different without them and i believe, not for the better.

The diseases which come from the vaccines are far worse

wehateporn 05-02-2015 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 20464881)
The good news is that he's doing everything possible to make sure his genes are cleaned out of the gene pool. Thats good news for all of us. You have to appreciate that at least :)

Which mild short-term childhood illness do you have so much fear of that you are willing to put yourself at risk of serious vaccine-induced lifelong autoimmune disease?

TheSquealer 05-02-2015 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by wehateporn (Post 20464936)
Which mild short-term childhood illness do you have so much fear of that you are willing to put yourself at risk of serious vaccine-induced lifelong autoimmune disease?

You are putting people at risk with your manic behavior and incessant, paranoid conspiracy theories. It's clear to almost everyone here that you need serious help and that you are unwilling to consider another viewpoint, data or study that challenges your tired narrative which is always "this unpublished study proves it and if you can refute it or if you deny it... then you're just the hapless victim of a great conspiracy"

wehateporn 05-02-2015 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 20464950)
You are putting people at risk with your manic behavior and incessant, paranoid conspiracy theories.

You couldn't answer the question, you have clearly just been fear-mongered and have no idea of the specifics on this topic, this is the danger of outsourcing your thinking to Big Pharma and the news channels who they sponsor

TheSquealer 05-02-2015 02:30 PM

The same old conspiracy theorists idiotic rebuttal "you're brainwashed"

How original - really didn't see that one coming

TheSquealer 05-02-2015 02:32 PM

And the fact that you spend your days in a manic frenzy seeking out any bit of random information to support what you want to believe while summarily rejecting any information tat challenges those beliefs, doesn't make you right. It makes you mentally unhinged.

TheSquealer 05-02-2015 02:34 PM

And you're not an immunologist, you're not a doctor, you're not a medical researcher and you're not a scientist. So cut the crap. You're just an irretrievably insane, paranoid character on a porn forum... nothing more.

Paul&John 05-02-2015 02:38 PM

I love it how everyone

Paul&John 05-02-2015 02:38 PM

posts his stuff across

Paul&John 05-02-2015 02:39 PM

multiple posts, but at least 3! Pure awesomeness!

OneHungLo 05-02-2015 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by wehateporn (Post 20464936)
Which mild short-term childhood illness do you have so much fear of that you are willing to put yourself at risk of serious vaccine-induced lifelong autoimmune disease?

What about all the people with compromised immune systems or people that are legitimately unable to vaccinate?

DAMNMAN 05-02-2015 06:34 PM

what about gardasil?????? Do you fucking guys think that making this mandatory for all girls is a great idea?
Firstly this only has vaccine for 1 of the 17 or so strains of the virus. WHY?

DAMNMAN 05-02-2015 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by rabbit (Post 20462398)
if any of you have done or published 'quantitative' research you'll know how easy it is to massage the data to fit your hypotheses. removing outliers, selecting a statistical method which will draw the right conclusion, etc.

but the bigger point is that you cannot in this case prove a negative, you can only show that there is a link between autism and vaccinnes, not the other way. think of the whole 'scientific' discussion about existence of god. you cant prove he doesn't exist. you can only prove he exists, which is obviously impossible.

so all these studies proving there's no link between vaccinnes & autism or any other neurological disease can come and go, all it will take is 1 single study show that there IS a link and all the others 'proving' the opposite go out the window. but there's no chance of that kind of study becoming accepted by the mainstream scientific community, there's too much pride, money and power involved :)

This!!!!

wehateporn 05-03-2015 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 20464955)
And the fact that you spend your days in a manic frenzy seeking out any bit of random information to support what you want to believe while summarily rejecting any information tat challenges those beliefs, doesn't make you right. It makes you mentally unhinged.

Come back to debate this topic the day you can prove you have some understanding of it, the fact you only post personal attacks tells everyone here you're well out of your depth at this moment.

wehateporn 05-03-2015 07:51 AM

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Originally Posted by OneHungLo (Post 20465070)
What about all the people with compromised immune systems or people that are legitimately unable to vaccinate?

They should stay away from people who have been vaccinated with a live vaccine, such as MMR.

2MuchMark 05-03-2015 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by wehateporn (Post 20463299)
Canada still has it in influenza and hep B vaccines, though most the vaccines contain Aluminum which is even more toxic

According to the CDC:

Vaccines: Vac-Gen/Additives in Vaccines Fact Sheet

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Aluminum gels or salts of aluminum which are added as adjuvants to help the vaccine stimulate a better response. Adjuvants help promote an earlier, more potent response, and more persistent immune response to the vaccine.
Aluminum may be toxic, but it probably does't hurt you or your kids to get a Vaccine that contains it. The health benefits of the vaccine far outweigh any risks associated with Aluminum.

ITraffic 05-03-2015 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by midfinger (Post 20464637)
I didn't vaccinate my kids just because of autism risk. We chose not to for all the other risks as well. Cancer...sv40, seizures, deafness, brain damage, auto immune responses. Read the inserts for side effects. However here's the thing vaccers always over look. You say we are subjecting your children to risk. How??? If your kids are protected by vaccination then they are safe. However you are exposing your germed up kid to my kid. All of the vac diseases are 100% treatable/curable. The logic hole is we are risking you if you are vaccinated...so GFY

it's amazing how much ignorance there is in the post. feel sorry for your children.

wehateporn 05-03-2015 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by ********** (Post 20465547)

The CDC is a sockpuppet for Big Pharma, they are not there to protect you, they will always tell you vaccines smell of roses, they used to tell us that smoking didn't cause Cancer.

As we see from your link some vaccines in the US still use Mercury and as you say many use neurotoxic Aluminium


wehateporn 05-03-2015 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by ITraffic (Post 20465554)
it's amazing how much ignorance there is in the post. feel sorry for your children.

Healthy children being intentionally poisoned for the benefit of Big Pharma sales is nasty, definitely feel sorry for the children and for their indoctrinated parents

ITraffic 05-03-2015 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by wehateporn (Post 20465596)
Healthy children being intentionally poisoned for the benefit of Big Pharma sales is nasty, definitely feel sorry for the children and for their indoctrinated parents

if you aren't aware of the ignorant statements in that post there is no help for you. i feel sorry for your children as well. they did not ask to be raised by a person such as you. sad.

wehateporn 05-03-2015 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by ITraffic (Post 20465598)
if you aren't aware of the ignorant statements in that post there is no help for you. i feel sorry for your children as well. they did not ask to be raised by a person such as you. sad.

Do you dare to tell us which you believe to be the ignorant statements?

WarChild 05-03-2015 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by wehateporn (Post 20465524)
Come back to debate this topic the day you can prove you have some understanding of it, the fact you only post personal attacks tells everyone here you're well out of your depth at this moment.

Umm, this isn't a debate. It's already settled. The person who has proven they have no understanding of it, and really the World in general, is you. Despite the number of Youtube videos you've watched to "educate" yourself.

TheSquealer 05-03-2015 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by wehateporn (Post 20465524)
Come back to debate this topic the day you can prove you have some understanding of it, the fact you only post personal attacks tells everyone here you're well out of your depth at this moment.

You are nobody and nothing. You are just a paranoid weirdo who spends his days perusing conspiracy sites and videos desperately searching for information that supports your predetermined narrative.

Again, you are not an immunologist. Your are not a statistician. You are not a doctor. You are not a researcher. You are not a scientist. You can pretend to be all day long but the simple truth is that you're not any of these things. You are no more qualified to draw conclusions than Jenny McCarthy is.

Furthermore, you do the same sad thing that all lunatics do. When your narrative starts to break down... when your story starts to wear and crack, when the arguments effectively challenge your views - you retreat to the same safe point that all paranoid conspiracy lunatics do... you start insisting there is a broader conspiracy.. you start insisting the one challenging you with rock solid facts is "brainwashed". You don't use those tactics because you are in a position of strength, offering self evident and indisputable facts... you do it because your weak arguments, flawed reasoning and poor excuse for logic has been exposed for what it is.

the simple truth is that you're mentally ill and you post this crap day in and day out as a means of self affirmation, self delusion and to help you to strengthen the wall of denial you've built around yourself. It's understandable that you'd never admit being wrong... doing so would mean being forced to confront a much darker truth about what you are and what drives you... likely leading to a collapse of your self identity and full blown mental breakdown as you have to confront the awful truth of your sickness

midfinger 05-03-2015 07:32 PM

I would post a response to defend myself but my skin is to thick. I opened up with my views and knew full well the response I would get. I made my choice and I stand by it. And FYI don't worry about my kids they are all in advanced classes at private schools.

BlackCrayon 05-04-2015 06:01 AM

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Originally Posted by midfinger (Post 20465899)
I would post a response to defend myself but my skin is to thick. I opened up with my views and knew full well the response I would get. I made my choice and I stand by it. And FYI don't worry about my kids they are all in advanced classes at private schools.

you can think all the parents who vaccinated their kids for keeping your kids healthy.

http://images.rapgenius.com/mnk83z40....250x298x1.png

wehateporn 05-04-2015 06:28 AM


wehateporn 08-04-2015 05:46 AM

??the [CDC] co-authors scheduled a meeting to destroy documents related to the [MMR vaccine] study. The remaining four co-authors all met and brought a big garbage can into the meeting room and reviewed and went through all the hard copy documents that we had thought we should discard and put them in a huge garbage can.? (William Thompson, CDC researcher)

DAMNMAN 08-04-2015 07:46 AM

You will never get to the bottom of this in any fashion that will make believers out of non-believers. The companies in question have spent many millions of dollars on self funded studies that cause information noise on the subject and obscure the truth.

Vaccinations are a wonderful achievement and have done wonders for stomping out some seriously bad shit. I must point out that times have changed, people have changed and corporations have become fucking monsters with no soul. The money has ruined everything and there is not one shred of integrity left in the big pharma industry.
= Don't give a fuck about your kids!!!

So yes..... I think some bad shit has gone on and that some vaccinations are causing/have casued serious injury to children. According to the information I have had access to.
I got my son vaccinated for MMR separately, broken down one shot at a time and no Thimerisol/Mercury preservatives. Still taking a chance but, one has to play the odds on this.


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