Raman noodles people.
Just sayin'.

I don't eat it either. But, I would choose the bologna and bread over a subway sandwich if I only had $5 for food.

I'll answer my own question.

16 oz balogna = $2 for 16 servings Oscar Mayer Jalapeno Bologna, 16 oz - Walmart.com
loaf of bread = $1-$3 for 20+ slices
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10 or 15 meals for under $5 :winkwink:


If you're poor you could spend all your money and complain about it. Or you could spend responsibly and stop buying things to try to feel better about your situation.

not sure, i'm actually not a sandwich guy. too much bread. but i figured a foot long sandwich is prolly 1200+ cals.

no baloney here either, when i do eat a sandwich it's peanut butter and sugar-free jam on ezekiel bread, or french toast ezekiel bread have you tried it? it's delicious and super healthy with none of the downsides of refined bread. i usually have some on stock.

and i do have a bagel type meal occasionally too, scrambled egg and bacon with cheese and onions on an everything bagel, or lox, or just cream cheese onions and tomato.

If the sandwich is going to have the same amount of meat and bread as a sub sandwich then the answer is about one.

If you are going to make real people "samichiss" then you get one "samich" per slice of meat plus several "jam samichiss".

Jam samich : You take two plain pieces of bread and jam them together with your hands.

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I'll have to look at the store for the ezekiel bread. Some asshole is charging $18 for it on amazon. Amazon.com : Food for Life, Ezekiel 4:9 Bread, Original Sprouted, Organic, 24oz (1 Loaf) : Packaged Breads : Grocery & Gourmet Food

Wait, I'll buy out the bakery to open my own amazon biz!

see? you just keep proofing what a massive dumbfuck you are. on the one hand, you say it's worthless for Americans to pursue a higher education (based on a 45 minute documentary you misunderstood and misrepresented because it in no way suggested what you claimed), but then you flip-flop and claim how we're the least educated of the developed countries.

you = dumbfuck. <- basic math even you should get.

jtfc!!!!

Ramen; spell it correctly. Just saying.

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No man, in my hood we have cheap-ass knock-off noodles. They're actually called 'Ray-man'. Some dude down the block named Ray makes them and puts them in Top Ramen packages. $0.25 a bowl bro.

:)

Our public high schools are dummified on purpose. Someone has to fix cars and work fast food. College is totally different ball game. Thats why US diplomas are highly ranked and probably fourth of all student come from overseas. That includes the smart ones from shitholes like Serbia or Russia.
Now lets get to the real question here. What kind of a bullshit story your parents had to come up with to win their political asylum case so their dumb ass kid can live the life he didn't deserve and enjoy his welfare checks? Nice story about american school for a year but I smell horse shit. I bet you sorry ass cruises Yonge street in 1996 318 BMW at night blasting some shitty serbian rap music in hopes of hooking up with other eastern european leeches. Am I right? :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

I actually drive a ladies c3 citroen it has a perfume dispenser, my mom and sister gave it to me as a gift :1orglaugh

look the documentary makes a fair argument, that US diplomas are not worth the effort and money to some americans...they argue that college costs 100.000$+ just in tuition fees not taking in to account living expenses ect, and that the loan shark interest rates blast it to 200.000K in no time...

now I agree that SOME people get great jobs right away...lets say 50% of all college graduates get that fancy 100K/year job and can pay off their education, and its definitely worth it ect

but for the rest, the ones who will work normal jobs, or most likely will not find any job other than wallmart, who have to pay off the loan shark debt for like a decade, who have to buy a house in the worlds biggest housing bubble, who have to pay US healthcare ect its pure debt slavery

europeans come to the USA because american college is easy as fuck...not because intelligence is somehow confined within the boundaries of over priced over hyped party colleges...the CNN documentary claims that in state colleges the average time a student spends studying is one hour...dude you can not finish even serbian middle school with just one hour of study :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

oh and the 1trillion $ combined student debt is kinda detrimental to your arguments :1orglaugh

y'all ever mix it up with your Ramen back in the day? i remember i used to make a ramen, cut the water a bit mix an egg in the noodles while cooking add some tuna and vegatables, then pour that over fritos. it's was good! :1orglaugh

its not flip flop...I said your education system is over priced AND shit at the same time...

and you obviously did not see the documentary...or you are pretending that everybodys parents in the USA have 100K to dish out for each kid and that the 1trillion$ student debt is just completely irrelevant :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

speaking of baloney.

same here, but I'm not so dumb or myopic as to think that it's 'easy' to get out of the poverty trap. If anyone has never been truly poor you have no idea what it's like, and seemingly even if you have, if you're one of those who has a decent brain and can get out of it, that means everyone else can too. Work ethic alone doesn't cut it. For every person who makes it out, there's a hundred more who never did/will.

btw I'm sure that army career helped you out of that situation Rochard, not that I'm saying it was any kind of 'handout', but it's not like you got zero assistance (in return of course for your labour) and just magicked up your way out of it.

Nothing worse than those who forget where they came from, and how it was. I consider myself lucky as fuck, and it really is a case of there but for the grace go I. Sure there are leechers, but tarring everyone with that same brush is dumb as fuck :2 cents:

look, all insulting aside, you're way too stupid to even try and have a debate with me over higher education in America. the amount of hokum in your last post is epically off the charts. i couldn't waste the days it would take to get you up to speed to dialogue with me about it.

no offense.



dumbfuck.

offense.

Oh yes indeed! Egg, sometimes some tuna fish....never tried the fritos thing tho. LOL

Look guys, when it comes to edjamacation and being 'successful' it ALL depends on the individual. We can all cite examples of rich kids who fucked up even tho they had the best education and advantages and poor kids who became billionaires due to intelligence, drive and hard work.

But if we are talking about a general level of education then America is slipping and has been for a long, long time. But what I said above still applies: find the right individual and they can overcome literally ANYTHING.

This mother fucking idiot doesn't know when to stop. He's going to argue how shit really is because he saw 30 minute documentary. My God :1orglaugh
easy as fuck? I would like to see your ass sitting through my classes in computer science and business information systems. Tell it to thousands of state sponsored Chinese students too. And who the fuck would think about "Serbian" middle school? To study what? Slobodan's family traditions and ethnic cleansing classes? Fuck off pissant. Serbian school :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh
Go to college and get a real degree, not some bullshit in forest preservation or physical education and you will be fine. Thats what you go to college for. Serbia blaaaaah :321GFY

I just had half of a Jimmy John's tuna sandwich. Totally full.

The problem isn't the cost of college, but being sold college as a necessary device for success. A friend of mine's daughter graduated high school last year. About halfway through her senior year she signed up to go into the Air Force. Even with that done, she had a class that forced her to apply to two colleges as part of its curriculum.

In recent years kids are being told that the only way to get a good job is to go to college and some of them rack up a huge amount of debt for a degree that will not really help them land a good job right out of college.

Another thing we have to take into consideration is that the economy sucked (and still isn't great). So a lot of kids got out of high school and went to college because they thought they likely couldn't get a good job right out of high school. They hoped the economy would improve while they were in school. Now we have a huge influx of college graduates, many of which have semi-useless degrees, and they are flooding the market and still unable to find those good jobs.

If a person wants to study something that requires a degree or they just want a degree in general, there are plenty of ways to get the degree without getting much debt if they are willing to do the research and take the steps needed to get it done.

Isn't that kinda what people do when getting their 'knowledge' of poverty though? Most people's experience of this is from tv/newspapers and what they hear in bars from everyone else moaning about how joe bob's neighbour is on handouts but has a widescreen tv. Obviously that doesn't apply to everyone, but I'd bet the majority here have never gone 3 - 4 days multiple times without anything to eat, yet feel qualified to speak about being completely on their ass. I know I do that shit all the time, form my 'knowledge' of things from what I see/read in the media, and it's times like this I realise how full of shit I am on those other topics :1orglaugh

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One thing that always stands out to me is how various companies are allowed to bill the poor for being poor. For example, the local utility company in my city. If you get a shut off notice on your light bill they will hang the notice on your door. They will also charge you $25 for that door hanger notice and you must pay that in addition to your bill to keep the lights on. Credit card companies do it all the time. If you are late with a payment they increase your rates or charge late fees. A friend of mine that lives in an apartment showed me the sign that hangs over the rent payment drop on the office. It says if you pay after 5pm on the 5th of the month you must include $100 late fee. His rent is $690 a month so they are basically hitting you with a 14% late fee even if you are just a few hours late.

I understand that they supposedly do this as a way to encourage people to pay their bills on time, but all it does is make it more difficult for people to pay future bills. Once you get into debt and start that debt spiral, unless you find a way to increase your income you are slowly going to drown in it.

Always ways to increase income for the willing and determined.

I just found a full cut of salmon and 3 bagels in the freezer; been in there for months.

Once again it's on :

https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-pr...ox-fridge.html

:2 cents:

No, the real problem is that college "sell" bullshit degrees which guarantee jobs at Sears home improvement department at best. All of those sociology, pottery design, forest preservation degrees are scam. How many fresh out of college sociologists this country needs? Educate your kids about college as soon as they start thinking about it. Just because you like swimming with turtles and dolphins in Cancun doesn't mean you need to go for "marine biologist" degree. You need to tell them that after graduation they are going to be wiping penguin shit off the floors of Oklahoma City's zoo and not swimming with dolphins in Samui. I had this redneck friend in college who loved hunting and fishing so after wasting 3 years in college he finally picked some park ranger shit. 3 more years passed by and we called this guy up to see if he wants to go on hunting trip and have sort of reunion together. guess what? He can't because he's making 22K a year and fucking stuck somewhere in Arkansas state park - 6 years of college.

I agree. That is the great thing about our country is that we have upward mobility for everyone no matter who you are or where you come from.

Sadly, many people don't realize it or believe it and they just allow themselves to stay stuck in that that poverty vacuum that pulls them further and further under.

Neh, two different things. You can drive trough the "south" part of town at 2 PM and see how its like and number of healthy 20 year old bums pushing their fucking bootleg rap cds at 7-11 corners

It isn't on the colleges who sell these degrees. It is on those who buy them and those who convince people they need them. You are right in that parents need to educate their kids. If your kid wants to go into college and study Greek medieval literature and their career path doesn't include them teaching Greek medieval literature, then parents need to have a frank conversation and tell the kid that degree is not going to help them. The same can be said for high school teachers. They need to stop telling every kid to get a bachelors degree and instead teach kids that there are other options out there for them and help them find their way in those directions.

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That's just so true. It's easy to be stuck in that mindset because you just can't imagine that you could have so much more if you just WORK YOUR ASS OFF.

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Yes but hard work alone is not the answer, either. I see plenty of people killing themselves working 3 jobs. Tell THEM to 'work harder' and they might shoot you - except they don't have the strength left because of, you know, working so hard.

No, you need a plan PLUS hard work PLUS enough flexibility and self-awareness to shift your plan and hard work accordingly when you are not succeeding. While working hard and never stopping is required so is a reasonable, obtainable Goal and Action Plan to get there.

A lot of people are willing to work their asses off (more than you would think) but they don't know what to do or how to do it.

I agree with you but life is more complicated than that.

Why don't you own youporn?
You didn't work hard enough???

:2 cents:

thats a video game

:thumbsup

It's lazy to just dismiss everyone as lazy

Well, colleges have those degrees because there are fools willing to pay for it. I have a friend who was so scared of his theology degree and getting out of school, he actually spent half of his life in school until he got his PHD in ancient Hebrew scrolls. He now teaches class in some Central Mississippi A&M University :1orglaugh I mean if this was some recognized school with anthropology and biblical studies department I can see that, but he is in the middle of nowhere with 30+ idiots sleeping through his bullshit lectures.
For some reason people think that just about any college degree will earn respect from potential employer.

There are millions of things out there that are sold simply because there are people that are willing to buy them. That said, I think colleges should do a better job of being realistic with people. If they want to major in Hebrew scrolls the college should give them information before they even start school that tells them what the average person with a degree in that field is doing for a living and what they are making.

I'm sure a lot of people with obscure degrees would have gone in a different direction if they knew what their career path was likely going to be.

For sure. When I say upward mobility I don't mean that everyone can be a millionaire. I mean that everyone can get enough of an education and a decent job and can live a decent middle class lifestyle. Some people will go on to more than that, but anyone can drag themselves out of poverty if they try hard enough. By that I also don't mean just getting another job. I mean working towards getting a better, higher paying job.

In the end if you want to be rich and have a site like youporn you need to be in the right place at the right time and do the right things. Those with vision and the courage to pursue those visions are the ones that ultimately make it big.

I didn't know what to do, or how to do it, but I figured it the fuck out because bills needed to get paid and I didn't want to live with my lights getting shut off one more time.

I had no plan. I could barely use the internet. I sure figured it out though.

All I had to have was determination. It's so hard for me to have sympathy for people who choose to stay stuck. I try, but it's very very hard.

Try to imagine they aren't you, with your unique skills, qualities, and mindset. Try remembering what it was like in the time between being ok, and pulling yourself out of it, and think of all the people who would have looked at you and the situation you were in, and dismissed it with a 'I have no sympathy'. Like I said earlier, it's easy to forget what it was like when you were in it. Think of the help you *did* get (anyone who says they had literally none is full of shit...) no matter how small it seemed at the time, and ask yourself if you've done the same for someone else today/this week/month/year who doesn't want a handout, but some direction/foot on the ladder.

^ not you personally, but in general. everyone isn't the same, and that's discounting those who are truly out to game the system and leech. Nobody 'chooses' to stay stuck, they just don't know what to do (again, not talking about true leechers) :2 cents:

I think they need to use some sort of practical training for kids picking their major. At first I was doing finance in college and got my wakeup call during summer internship. Everyone was thinking stocks, NY stock exchange, mutual funds. Fuck that, put on your Sears three piece suite and go sell 401K plans to 40 year olds. I watched those guys make million calls, set appointments, drive to boonies and then come back next day hangover and pissed because Baba wasn't getting that he needs to invest something in order to get it back later. This was my wakeup call. If colleges put those Hebrew scrollers behind the desk and make then look at toilet paper for 9 hours through magnifying glass perhaps they would get the idea.

It's $49 a month, but you have to buy the phone. Again, if you can afford the smart phone, you shouldn't be on government assistance.

Yes, work harder.... There was a time in my life where I was working four jobs and looking back I cannot figure out when I slept. My days started at 4am for a newspaper route, my real job at 6am at a restaurant, the night shift at a fast food place, and then at night working on a push crew.

Here's the thing about that. I can go to just about any cell phone provider and get an iphone or a basic smartphone (neither the newest model) for free and pay around $40-$50 per month for the service. I just looked on the website for my local phone company and to get a basic phone line I would have to pay around $35 a month. So having a smartphone is not a sign of wealth.

Another option is that I could spend about $100 on a phone and use a carrier like Ting and spend maybe $20-$25 a month on service.

I would agree that is someone can afford to go plunk down $600 for a new phone then maybe they don't need assistance, but having a basic smartphone is not really any more expensive than having a home phone.

Yes, but you had the flexibility I spoke of in order to figure shit out. That is what I meant. People who give up or don't even try often let any setback derail them. Sure, even with a well-defined Business Plan unexpected shit comes up and knocks you off course. But to have both the tenacity and willingness to try ANYTHING that works is how you get somewhere.

You know what I'm saying. You can usually tell in a few moments if a person you just meet has what it takes to 'make it' or not. You can see it in their eyes, hear it in their voices....

It is a tough balance tho. You have to both believe in yourself and abilities even when others do not - yet somehow take advice and listen to others who tell you a better way of doing something. LOL Oh the voices!! Why are there so many voices (in my head)??? LOL

No, it isn't $49 a month.

It's $49 for the fucking phone!


You then pay by the month for a plan you choose.
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Like I said before, it's about people who can't shop.

Poor people will believe me and buy the phone, but you won't.

:2 cents:

I knew you were going to say that and started to just answer it in my previous post; but
decided not to predict your reply.

Simply put : You will acknowledge a "funnel" in the way of getting rich but you don't see that there is also a funnel to get out of a hole.
You're not the only one in the hole waiting to get out.

You have an excuse for what you can't achieve and don't blame it on laziness; but Donald Trump will call you lazy.

:2 cents:

I fully understand that getting out of a hole is hard. I grew up very poor and I have had times in my life where I was dead broke. I also know that I have a situation where I only have to worry about myself so I have been free to do what I needed to do in order to dig myself out. However, if you are a single parent with kids to care for it may be a lot harder for you to dig yourself out of that hole.

Often times laziness has nothing to do with it, as I said in a previous post getting out of poverty is not about getting a second job or working harder at your current job, it is about figuring out how to get a better job that pays you more or offers you the opportunity for advancement.

"Rochead" is out of his mind.

He's displaying the kind of misplaced anger poor people suffer if they do anything except
appear to be broken souls in public.

For all we know all the phones could be turned off; but these people are so paranoid
about looking broke that they pretend to use the phone to look important.

I confess that I carried a cell phone for a month back in the 1990's and it was never turned on.
It was in LA and I had meetings to go to.

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Here's the exact model phone I faked with :

http://www.gsmhistory.com/new/wp-con...3200-front.jpg


I found it useful even when turned off because it was heavy enough to beat the shit out of any attacker.

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