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Sly 04-24-2015 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20457586)
depends on how many meals you get out of that foot long. i bet i can get 4 meals out of it and a bag of pretzels, so $3/meal. that's not bad.

My "good" sandwich shop is $10, I get four meals out of it. Really great, hot sandwiches. The cheaper shops, like Jimmy John's, I usually get the five dollar sandwich and that goes for two meals.

People can save a lot of money if they just started eating less. Nobody needs all of the food they eat. Plus it costs more in the long run due to medical issues.

dyna mo 04-24-2015 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 20457677)
well its directly from a CNN documentary that was on HBO last night called "Ivory Tower" I know you 2 mental midgets with your US midget education will no doubt proceed to midget defend your midget arguments :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

i don't have to defend my observation that you are a giant dumbfuck, you're doing a hell of a job proofing it on your own.

Horatio Caine 04-24-2015 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 20457677)
well its directly from a CNN documentary that was on HBO last night called "Ivory Tower" I know you 2 mental midgets with your US midget education will no doubt proceed to midget defend your midget arguments :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Oh boy, i wouldn't dare to compare my education to what you got at Institute of boot lacing of Belgrade. Son, stop pissing up the rope. Its not water dripping down on you. :1orglaugh
Why does Canada lets these dipshits in?

dyna mo 04-24-2015 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Sly (Post 20457690)
My "good" sandwich shop is $10, I get four meals out of it. Really great, hot sandwiches. The cheaper shops, like Jimmy John's, I usually get the five dollar sandwich and that goes for two meals.

People can save a lot of money if they just started eating less. Nobody needs all of the food they eat. Plus it costs more in the long run due to medical issues.

:thumbsup

you know what's funny? i was going to reply to BM's post that i bet Sly could get 4 meals out of that sandwich! :1orglaugh

dyna mo 04-24-2015 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by MakeMeGrrrrowl (Post 20457658)
Only when I commit myself to a gallon of water a day do I realize how little food we actually need to feel normal.

I'll be starting that next week. Detoxxxx is coming. Junk is going. I'm not happy about it.


what's going on starting next week? detox junk unhappy ?

420 04-24-2015 01:21 PM

How many sandwiches (meals) can you get from a pack of balogna and sandwich bread?

MakeMeGrrrrowl 04-24-2015 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20457700)
what's going on starting next week? detox junk unhappy ?

Just getting the junk out of my body. Nothing insane. Gotta drop 20! It really shouldn't be that hard once I commit.

dyna mo 04-24-2015 01:29 PM

"The only thing worse than going to college is not going to college."

-Anthony P. Carnevale






Anthony P. Carnevale is an internationally recognized authority on education, training and employment. He was appointed by President Clinton as Chairman of the National Commission on Employment Policy. Dr. Carnevale also served as Vice President of the Education Testing Service (ETS) between 1996 and 2003.

pimpmaster9000 04-24-2015 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Horatio Caine (Post 20457692)
Oh boy, i wouldn't dare to compare my education to what you got at Institute of boot lacing of Belgrade. Son, stop pissing up the rope. Its not water dripping down on you. :1orglaugh
Why does Canada lets these dipshits in?

was just quoting CNN...I know you have that mystical thing called an "american education" that we in 3rd world countries can not understand, seriously, our high schools are more difficult than your college :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

man I went to an american high school for a year O MY GOD I thought they sent me 10 years back :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

I honestly believe americans are the least educated developed country in the world...

when you say the word "american" what epithet comes to mind first? dumb or smart? :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

:thumbsup

MakeMeGrrrrowl 04-24-2015 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by 420 (Post 20457707)
How many sandwiches (meals) can you get from a pack of balogna and sandwich bread?

Make us a couple sammiches and let's find out.

Kidding! I will not eat balogna!

The Porn Nerd 04-24-2015 01:35 PM

Raman noodles people.
Just sayin'.

420 04-24-2015 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by MakeMeGrrrrowl (Post 20457722)
Make us a couple sammiches and let's find out.

Kidding! I will not eat balogna!

I don't eat it either. But, I would choose the bologna and bread over a subway sandwich if I only had $5 for food.

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Originally Posted by 420 (Post 20457707)
How many sandwiches (meals) can you get from a pack of balogna and sandwich bread?

I'll answer my own question.

16 oz balogna = $2 for 16 servings Oscar Mayer Jalapeno Bologna, 16 oz - Walmart.com
loaf of bread = $1-$3 for 20+ slices
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10 or 15 meals for under $5 :winkwink:


If you're poor you could spend all your money and complain about it. Or you could spend responsibly and stop buying things to try to feel better about your situation.

dyna mo 04-24-2015 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by 420 (Post 20457707)
How many sandwiches (meals) can you get from a pack of balogna and sandwich bread?

not sure, i'm actually not a sandwich guy. too much bread. but i figured a foot long sandwich is prolly 1200+ cals.

no baloney here either, when i do eat a sandwich it's peanut butter and sugar-free jam on ezekiel bread, or french toast ezekiel bread have you tried it? it's delicious and super healthy with none of the downsides of refined bread. i usually have some on stock.

and i do have a bagel type meal occasionally too, scrambled egg and bacon with cheese and onions on an everything bagel, or lox, or just cream cheese onions and tomato.

blackmonsters 04-24-2015 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by 420 (Post 20457707)
How many sandwiches (meals) can you get from a pack of balogna and sandwich bread?

If the sandwich is going to have the same amount of meat and bread as a sub sandwich then the answer is about one.

If you are going to make real people "samichiss" then you get one "samich" per slice of meat plus several "jam samichiss".

Jam samich : You take two plain pieces of bread and jam them together with your hands.

:1orglaugh

420 04-24-2015 01:44 PM

I'll have to look at the store for the ezekiel bread. Some asshole is charging $18 for it on amazon. Amazon.com : Food for Life, Ezekiel 4:9 Bread, Original Sprouted, Organic, 24oz (1 Loaf) : Packaged Breads : Grocery & Gourmet Food

Wait, I'll buy out the bakery to open my own amazon biz!

dyna mo 04-24-2015 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 20457719)
was just quoting CNN...I know you have that mystical thing called an "american education" that we in 3rd world countries can not understand, seriously, our high schools are more difficult than your college :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

man I went to an american high school for a year O MY GOD I thought they sent me 10 years back :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

I honestly believe americans are the least educated developed country in the world...

when you say the word "american" what epithet comes to mind first? dumb or smart? :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

:thumbsup

see? you just keep proofing what a massive dumbfuck you are. on the one hand, you say it's worthless for Americans to pursue a higher education (based on a 45 minute documentary you misunderstood and misrepresented because it in no way suggested what you claimed), but then you flip-flop and claim how we're the least educated of the developed countries.

you = dumbfuck. <- basic math even you should get.

dyna mo 04-24-2015 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by 420 (Post 20457736)
i'll have to look at the store for the ezekiel bread. Some asshole is charging $18 for it on amazon. amazon.com : Food for life, ezekiel 4:9 bread, original sprouted, organic, 24oz (1 loaf) : Packaged breads : Grocery & gourmet food

wait, i'll buy out the bakery to open my own amazon biz!

jtfc!!!!

blackmonsters 04-24-2015 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd (Post 20457724)
Raman noodles people.
Just sayin'.

Ramen; spell it correctly. Just saying.

:1orglaugh

The Porn Nerd 04-24-2015 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by blackmonsters (Post 20457741)
Ramen; spell it correctly. Just saying.

:1orglaugh

No man, in my hood we have cheap-ass knock-off noodles. They're actually called 'Ray-man'. Some dude down the block named Ray makes them and puts them in Top Ramen packages. $0.25 a bowl bro.

:)

Horatio Caine 04-24-2015 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 20457719)
was just quoting CNN...I know you have that mystical thing called an "american education" that we in 3rd world countries can not understand, seriously, our high schools are more difficult than your college :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

man I went to an american high school for a year O MY GOD I thought they sent me 10 years back :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

I honestly believe americans are the least educated developed country in the world...

when you say the word "american" what epithet comes to mind first? dumb or smart? :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

:thumbsup

Our public high schools are dummified on purpose. Someone has to fix cars and work fast food. College is totally different ball game. Thats why US diplomas are highly ranked and probably fourth of all student come from overseas. That includes the smart ones from shitholes like Serbia or Russia.
Now lets get to the real question here. What kind of a bullshit story your parents had to come up with to win their political asylum case so their dumb ass kid can live the life he didn't deserve and enjoy his welfare checks? Nice story about american school for a year but I smell horse shit. I bet you sorry ass cruises Yonge street in 1996 318 BMW at night blasting some shitty serbian rap music in hopes of hooking up with other eastern european leeches. Am I right? :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Horatio Caine 04-24-2015 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20457737)
see? you just keep proofing what a massive dumbfuck you are. on the one hand, you say it's worthless for Americans to pursue a higher education (based on a 45 minute documentary you misunderstood and misrepresented because it in no way suggested what you claimed), but then you flip-flop and claim how we're the least educated of the developed countries.

you = dumbfuck. <- basic math even you should get.

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pimpmaster9000 04-24-2015 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Horatio Caine (Post 20457745)
Our public high schools are dummified on purpose. Someone has to fix cars and work fast food. College is totally different ball game. Thats why US diplomas are highly ranked and probably fourth of student come from overseas. That includes the smart ones from shitholes like Serbia or Russia.
Not lets get to the real question here. What kind of a bullshit story your parents had to come up with to win their political asylum case so their dumb ass kid can live the life he didn't deserve and enjoy his welfare checks? Nice story about american school for a year but I smell horse shit. I bet you sorry ass cruises Yonge street in 1996 318 BMW at night blasting some shitty serbian rap music in hopes of hooking up with other eastern european leeches. Am I right? :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

I actually drive a ladies c3 citroen it has a perfume dispenser, my mom and sister gave it to me as a gift :1orglaugh

look the documentary makes a fair argument, that US diplomas are not worth the effort and money to some americans...they argue that college costs 100.000$+ just in tuition fees not taking in to account living expenses ect, and that the loan shark interest rates blast it to 200.000K in no time...

now I agree that SOME people get great jobs right away...lets say 50% of all college graduates get that fancy 100K/year job and can pay off their education, and its definitely worth it ect

but for the rest, the ones who will work normal jobs, or most likely will not find any job other than wallmart, who have to pay off the loan shark debt for like a decade, who have to buy a house in the worlds biggest housing bubble, who have to pay US healthcare ect its pure debt slavery

europeans come to the USA because american college is easy as fuck...not because intelligence is somehow confined within the boundaries of over priced over hyped party colleges...the CNN documentary claims that in state colleges the average time a student spends studying is one hour...dude you can not finish even serbian middle school with just one hour of study :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

oh and the 1trillion $ combined student debt is kinda detrimental to your arguments :1orglaugh

dyna mo 04-24-2015 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd (Post 20457724)
Raman noodles people.
Just sayin'.

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackmonsters (Post 20457741)
Ramen; spell it correctly. Just saying.

:1orglaugh

y'all ever mix it up with your Ramen back in the day? i remember i used to make a ramen, cut the water a bit mix an egg in the noodles while cooking add some tuna and vegatables, then pour that over fritos. it's was good! :1orglaugh

pimpmaster9000 04-24-2015 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20457737)
see? you just keep proofing what a massive dumbfuck you are. on the one hand, you say it's worthless for Americans to pursue a higher education (based on a 45 minute documentary you misunderstood and misrepresented because it in no way suggested what you claimed), but then you flip-flop and claim how we're the least educated of the developed countries.

you = dumbfuck. <- basic math even you should get.

its not flip flop...I said your education system is over priced AND shit at the same time...

and you obviously did not see the documentary...or you are pretending that everybodys parents in the USA have 100K to dish out for each kid and that the 1trillion$ student debt is just completely irrelevant :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

dyna mo 04-24-2015 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 20457754)
I actually drive a ladies c3 citroen it has a perfume dispenser, my mom and sister gave it to me as a gift :1orglaugh

look the documentary makes a fair argument, that US diplomas are not worth the effort and money to some americans...they argue that college costs 100.000$+ just in tuition fees not taking in to account living expenses ect, and that the loan shark interest rates blast it to 200.000K in no time...

now I agree that SOME people get great jobs right away...lets say 50% of all college graduates get that fancy 100K/year job and can pay off their education, and its definitely worth it ect

but for the rest, the ones who will work normal jobs, or most likely will not find any job other than wallmart, who have to pay off the loan shark debt for like a decade, who have to buy a house in the worlds biggest housing bubble, who have to pay US healthcare ect its pure debt slavery

europeans come to the USA because american college is easy as fuck...not because intelligence is somehow confined within the boundaries of over priced over hyped party colleges...the CNN documentary claims that in state colleges the average time a student spends studying is one hour...dude you can not finish even serbian middle school with just one hour of study :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

oh and the 1trillion $ combined student debt is kinda detrimental to your arguments :1orglaugh

speaking of baloney.

Jel 04-24-2015 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20457524)
I call bullshit. They are public assistance yet have smart phones and bigger TVs than I have. Fuck that already.

I was a homeless drug loser who dropped out of high school. I didn't get any "help" from anyone - not our government, not my family.

same here, but I'm not so dumb or myopic as to think that it's 'easy' to get out of the poverty trap. If anyone has never been truly poor you have no idea what it's like, and seemingly even if you have, if you're one of those who has a decent brain and can get out of it, that means everyone else can too. Work ethic alone doesn't cut it. For every person who makes it out, there's a hundred more who never did/will.

btw I'm sure that army career helped you out of that situation Rochard, not that I'm saying it was any kind of 'handout', but it's not like you got zero assistance (in return of course for your labour) and just magicked up your way out of it.

Nothing worse than those who forget where they came from, and how it was. I consider myself lucky as fuck, and it really is a case of there but for the grace go I. Sure there are leechers, but tarring everyone with that same brush is dumb as fuck :2 cents:

dyna mo 04-24-2015 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 20457760)
its not flip flop...I said your education system is over priced AND shit at the same time...

and you obviously did not see the documentary...or you are pretending that everybodys parents in the USA have 100K to dish out for each kid and that the 1trillion$ student debt is just completely irrelevant :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

look, all insulting aside, you're way too stupid to even try and have a debate with me over higher education in America. the amount of hokum in your last post is epically off the charts. i couldn't waste the days it would take to get you up to speed to dialogue with me about it.

no offense.



dumbfuck.

offense.

The Porn Nerd 04-24-2015 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20457755)
y'all ever mix it up with your Ramen back in the day? i remember i used to make a ramen, cut the water a bit mix an egg in the noodles while cooking add some tuna and vegatables, then pour that over fritos. it's was good! :1orglaugh

Oh yes indeed! Egg, sometimes some tuna fish....never tried the fritos thing tho. LOL

Look guys, when it comes to edjamacation and being 'successful' it ALL depends on the individual. We can all cite examples of rich kids who fucked up even tho they had the best education and advantages and poor kids who became billionaires due to intelligence, drive and hard work.

But if we are talking about a general level of education then America is slipping and has been for a long, long time. But what I said above still applies: find the right individual and they can overcome literally ANYTHING.

Horatio Caine 04-24-2015 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 20457754)
I actually drive a ladies c3 citroen it has a perfume dispenser, my mom and sister gave it to me as a gift :1orglaugh

look the documentary makes a fair argument, that US diplomas are not worth the effort and money to some americans...they argue that college costs 100.000$+ just in tuition fees not taking in to account living expenses ect, and that the loan shark interest rates blast it to 200.000K in no time...

now I agree that SOME people get great jobs right away...lets say 50% of all college graduates get that fancy 100K/year job and can pay off their education, and its definitely worth it ect

but for the rest, the ones who will work normal jobs, or most likely will not find any job other than wallmart, who have to pay off the loan shark debt for like a decade, who have to buy a house in the worlds biggest housing bubble, who have to pay US healthcare ect its pure debt slavery

europeans come to the USA because american college is easy as fuck...not because intelligence is somehow confined within the boundaries of over priced over hyped party colleges...the CNN documentary claims that in state colleges the average time a student spends studying is one hour...dude you can not finish even serbian middle school with just one hour of study :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

oh and the 1trillion $ combined student debt is kinda detrimental to your arguments :1orglaugh

This mother fucking idiot doesn't know when to stop. He's going to argue how shit really is because he saw 30 minute documentary. My God :1orglaugh
easy as fuck? I would like to see your ass sitting through my classes in computer science and business information systems. Tell it to thousands of state sponsored Chinese students too. And who the fuck would think about "Serbian" middle school? To study what? Slobodan's family traditions and ethnic cleansing classes? Fuck off pissant. Serbian school :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh
Go to college and get a real degree, not some bullshit in forest preservation or physical education and you will be fine. Thats what you go to college for. Serbia blaaaaah :321GFY

Sly 04-24-2015 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20457694)
:thumbsup

you know what's funny? i was going to reply to BM's post that i bet Sly could get 4 meals out of that sandwich! :1orglaugh

I just had half of a Jimmy John's tuna sandwich. Totally full.

kane 04-24-2015 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 20457754)
I actually drive a ladies c3 citroen it has a perfume dispenser, my mom and sister gave it to me as a gift :1orglaugh

look the documentary makes a fair argument, that US diplomas are not worth the effort and money to some americans...they argue that college costs 100.000$+ just in tuition fees not taking in to account living expenses ect, and that the loan shark interest rates blast it to 200.000K in no time...

now I agree that SOME people get great jobs right away...lets say 50% of all college graduates get that fancy 100K/year job and can pay off their education, and its definitely worth it ect

but for the rest, the ones who will work normal jobs, or most likely will not find any job other than wallmart, who have to pay off the loan shark debt for like a decade, who have to buy a house in the worlds biggest housing bubble, who have to pay US healthcare ect its pure debt slavery

europeans come to the USA because american college is easy as fuck...not because intelligence is somehow confined within the boundaries of over priced over hyped party colleges...the CNN documentary claims that in state colleges the average time a student spends studying is one hour...dude you can not finish even serbian middle school with just one hour of study :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

oh and the 1trillion $ combined student debt is kinda detrimental to your arguments :1orglaugh

The problem isn't the cost of college, but being sold college as a necessary device for success. A friend of mine's daughter graduated high school last year. About halfway through her senior year she signed up to go into the Air Force. Even with that done, she had a class that forced her to apply to two colleges as part of its curriculum.

In recent years kids are being told that the only way to get a good job is to go to college and some of them rack up a huge amount of debt for a degree that will not really help them land a good job right out of college.

Another thing we have to take into consideration is that the economy sucked (and still isn't great). So a lot of kids got out of high school and went to college because they thought they likely couldn't get a good job right out of high school. They hoped the economy would improve while they were in school. Now we have a huge influx of college graduates, many of which have semi-useless degrees, and they are flooding the market and still unable to find those good jobs.

If a person wants to study something that requires a degree or they just want a degree in general, there are plenty of ways to get the degree without getting much debt if they are willing to do the research and take the steps needed to get it done.

Jel 04-24-2015 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Horatio Caine (Post 20457775)
This mother fucking idiot doesn't know when to stop. He's going to argue how shit really is because he saw 30 minute documentary. My God :1orglaugh
easy as fuck? I would like to see your ass sitting through my classes in computer science and business information systems. Tell it to thousands of state sponsored Chinese students too. And who the fuck would think about "Serbian" middle school? To study what? Slobodan's family traditions and ethnic cleansing classes? Fuck off pissant. Serbian school :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh
Go to college and get a real degree, not some bullshit in forest preservation or physical education and you will be fine. Thats what you go to college for. Serbia blaaaaah :321GFY

Isn't that kinda what people do when getting their 'knowledge' of poverty though? Most people's experience of this is from tv/newspapers and what they hear in bars from everyone else moaning about how joe bob's neighbour is on handouts but has a widescreen tv. Obviously that doesn't apply to everyone, but I'd bet the majority here have never gone 3 - 4 days multiple times without anything to eat, yet feel qualified to speak about being completely on their ass. I know I do that shit all the time, form my 'knowledge' of things from what I see/read in the media, and it's times like this I realise how full of shit I am on those other topics :1orglaugh

Jel 04-24-2015 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by kane (Post 20457798)
The problem isn't the cost of college, but being sold college as a necessary device for success

:thumbsup :thumbsup

kane 04-24-2015 03:00 PM

One thing that always stands out to me is how various companies are allowed to bill the poor for being poor. For example, the local utility company in my city. If you get a shut off notice on your light bill they will hang the notice on your door. They will also charge you $25 for that door hanger notice and you must pay that in addition to your bill to keep the lights on. Credit card companies do it all the time. If you are late with a payment they increase your rates or charge late fees. A friend of mine that lives in an apartment showed me the sign that hangs over the rent payment drop on the office. It says if you pay after 5pm on the 5th of the month you must include $100 late fee. His rent is $690 a month so they are basically hitting you with a 14% late fee even if you are just a few hours late.

I understand that they supposedly do this as a way to encourage people to pay their bills on time, but all it does is make it more difficult for people to pay future bills. Once you get into debt and start that debt spiral, unless you find a way to increase your income you are slowly going to drown in it.

MakeMeGrrrrowl 04-24-2015 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by kane (Post 20457807)
unless you find a way to increase your income

Always ways to increase income for the willing and determined.

blackmonsters 04-24-2015 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd (Post 20457742)
No man, in my hood we have cheap-ass knock-off noodles. They're actually called 'Ray-man'. Some dude down the block named Ray makes them and puts them in Top Ramen packages. $0.25 a bowl bro.

:)

I just found a full cut of salmon and 3 bagels in the freezer; been in there for months.

Once again it's on :

https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-pr...ox-fridge.html

:2 cents:

Horatio Caine 04-24-2015 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by kane (Post 20457798)
The problem isn't the cost of college, but being sold college as a necessary device for success. A friend of mine's daughter graduated high school last year. About halfway through her senior year she signed up to go into the Air Force. Even with that done, she had a class that forced her to apply to two colleges as part of its curriculum.

In recent years kids are being told that the only way to get a good job is to go to college and some of them rack up a huge amount of debt for a degree that will not really help them land a good job right out of college.

Another thing we have to take into consideration is that the economy sucked (and still isn't great). So a lot of kids got out of high school and went to college because they thought they likely couldn't get a good job right out of high school. They hoped the economy would improve while they were in school. Now we have a huge influx of college graduates, many of which have semi-useless degrees, and they are flooding the market and still unable to find those good jobs.

If a person wants to study something that requires a degree or they just want a degree in general, there are plenty of ways to get the degree without getting much debt if they are willing to do the research and take the steps needed to get it done.


No, the real problem is that college "sell" bullshit degrees which guarantee jobs at Sears home improvement department at best. All of those sociology, pottery design, forest preservation degrees are scam. How many fresh out of college sociologists this country needs? Educate your kids about college as soon as they start thinking about it. Just because you like swimming with turtles and dolphins in Cancun doesn't mean you need to go for "marine biologist" degree. You need to tell them that after graduation they are going to be wiping penguin shit off the floors of Oklahoma City's zoo and not swimming with dolphins in Samui. I had this redneck friend in college who loved hunting and fishing so after wasting 3 years in college he finally picked some park ranger shit. 3 more years passed by and we called this guy up to see if he wants to go on hunting trip and have sort of reunion together. guess what? He can't because he's making 22K a year and fucking stuck somewhere in Arkansas state park - 6 years of college.

kane 04-24-2015 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by MakeMeGrrrrowl (Post 20457816)
Always ways to increase income for the willing and determined.

I agree. That is the great thing about our country is that we have upward mobility for everyone no matter who you are or where you come from.

Sadly, many people don't realize it or believe it and they just allow themselves to stay stuck in that that poverty vacuum that pulls them further and further under.

Horatio Caine 04-24-2015 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Jel (Post 20457800)
Isn't that kinda what people do when getting their 'knowledge' of poverty though? Most people's experience of this is from tv/newspapers and what they hear in bars from everyone else moaning about how joe bob's neighbour is on handouts but has a widescreen tv. Obviously that doesn't apply to everyone, but I'd bet the majority here have never gone 3 - 4 days multiple times without anything to eat, yet feel qualified to speak about being completely on their ass. I know I do that shit all the time, form my 'knowledge' of things from what I see/read in the media, and it's times like this I realise how full of shit I am on those other topics :1orglaugh

Neh, two different things. You can drive trough the "south" part of town at 2 PM and see how its like and number of healthy 20 year old bums pushing their fucking bootleg rap cds at 7-11 corners

kane 04-24-2015 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Horatio Caine (Post 20457826)
No, the real problem is that college "sell" bullshit degrees which guarantee jobs at Sears home improvement department at best. All of those sociology, pottery design, forest preservation degrees are scam. How many fresh out of college sociologists this country needs? Educate your kids about college as soon as they start thinking about it. Just because you like swimming with turtles and dolphins in Cancun doesn't mean you need to go for "marine biologist" degree. You need to tell them that after graduation they are going to be wiping penguin shit off the floors of Oklahoma City's zoo and not swimming with dolphins in Samui. I had this redneck friend in college who loved hunting and fishing so after wasting 3 years in college he finally picked some park ranger shit. 3 more years passed by and we called this guy up to see if he wants to go on hunting trip and have sort of reunion together. guess what? He can't because he's making 22K a year and fucking stuck somewhere in Arkansas state park - 6 years of college.

It isn't on the colleges who sell these degrees. It is on those who buy them and those who convince people they need them. You are right in that parents need to educate their kids. If your kid wants to go into college and study Greek medieval literature and their career path doesn't include them teaching Greek medieval literature, then parents need to have a frank conversation and tell the kid that degree is not going to help them. The same can be said for high school teachers. They need to stop telling every kid to get a bachelors degree and instead teach kids that there are other options out there for them and help them find their way in those directions.


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