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MaDalton 04-29-2015 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by klinton (Post 20462123)
and that is the typical socialist/thievery thinking
while I understand why healthcare insurance is necessary and I approve it 100 %, I dont understand why people are forced to pay their monthly pensions fund...while it is not effective at all.

yeah - running my own company and employing people makes me a hardcore socialist and thief :error

Tasty1 04-29-2015 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 20462113)
to me it simply sounds as if you have a shitty government in Holland

yes, oh the horror, making poor countries richer, what an insane plan. :upsidedow

ever compared most eastern European countries today to 1989? or Spain, Portugal in comparison when they were still dictatorships 40 years ago?

i guess we have a general different understanding - i also value experience and efficiency, not just birth date

and I plan to retire way before 60 - unless i just have fun keeping on


I think you don't understand me. I say there is a bigger market. That is why Volkswagen has more employees. That is no horror. But to point out that robots took over jobs, but because the market is bigger there is also more work. That is the whole idea of Europe. I am not saying that that is bad. You will need robots, else the factory will go to a cheaper country.

Well, even people to whipe your ass we are getting from Poland and other poor countries. Cause the Dutch won't do that work for so less money. I wonder how a 67 year old woman will whipe your ass. Maybe she needs help herself to do that at her age. Sure she will be experienced, but some jobs are not that good if you are over 67, than age counts more than experience.

I think i will work till i die cause i like it. But in the meantime i will travel the world cause you never know when it will end. I am for sure not waiting till i am 67, travelling around now for almost 4 years. I am not planning to retire in Holland, too cold for me. So for me it is interesting to know that the Dutch government will try to steal my retirement money when i decide to live in another, probably cheaper, country. And don't forget, laws in Holland cold be easily copied to Germany. Maybe a European president will force Germany in plans like that...


But that is financial. Soon there will be an European president. And i don't like that. Look what is happening in Greece, you have no control. I can understand the Greek people. It is ridicilous out there. But that is their own fault. They are better of alone, if they can't get more money from other countries. But everybody could see it coming and they, and we, are tricked into it. Some people even want Turkey to join.

I was on Zakynthos. Quiet Island but suddenly there was a new road, with a big sign it was paid by Europe. A fucking road from nowhere to nowhere for a handfull of tourist. Europe could figure out itself that was a waste of money. Now am i wondering, was that also a loan? Who has given that loan? And why?

Paul&John 04-29-2015 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by klinton (Post 20462123)
and that is the typical socialist/thievery thinking
while I understand why healthcare insurance is necessary and I approve it 100 %, I dont understand why people are forced to pay their monthly pensions fund...while it is not effective at all.

As far as I dislike it, it is still necessary. People fucking can't take care of themselves. Many people can't even save some money for a few months period, not even for decades to come! And as MaDalton pointed out, what would happen if people will retire, but they won't have any savings? The government (at least in the civilized world) will have to help them out financially.. so we are on square one again.

Not sure what's the solution, maybe some more classes about economics instead of literature or similar nonsense would help (in school years) :)

klinton 04-29-2015 04:41 PM

thats is their problem and this is natural selection. stupid loose.
socialist thinking is to find out "miracle solution" for it - and that solution is to make all people pay...and "wise" government will do with that money what they want to do. because people are stupid and cant think for themselves.
its like suing McDonalds for 1 milion dollars because your cup with hot coffee slipped and now you a little burned.
or it is like suing Ford because you ride SUV from Ford and after 5 years of riding without any walking/ cycling you became fat like pig. so who is responsible for that ? Ford or your stupidity ?
the only difference is that by suing McDonald you may actually "win" that milion bucks, and with government's pension program - you only loose...
If freshly start self employed man has to pay 300 euros/ EVERY month for pension's fund, while his earnings are around 1,000 euros - and not always steady...it for sure slows down economy. government doesnt care if you earn money being self employed or not. what they do care about is their 300 euros/ month, like mobs.
same with companies that have to pay pension fund for their employees - thats why nobody want to give you (employees) contract now and many people work as a part time, free lancers and so on.
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Originally Posted by Paul&John (Post 20462480)
As far as I dislike it, it is still necessary. People fucking can't take care of themselves. Many people can't even save some money for a few months period, not even for decades to come! And as MaDalton pointed out, what would happen if people will retire, but they won't have any savings? The government (at least in the civilized world) will have to help them out financially.. so we are on square one again.

Not sure what's the solution, maybe some more classes about economics instead of literature or similar nonsense would help (in school years) :)


SekobA 04-29-2015 05:43 PM

They have the worst economy is Europe...best for all is Greece to be out of the EU

John_Galbani 04-29-2015 11:24 PM

Lazy people who do not work and want free loan moneys. Let them go and be like Russian alone.

SmutGiant 04-29-2015 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 20460421)
And the greeks butt-fucked everyone ....... imagine that.

Aaaand #dropsthemic

shoot twice 04-30-2015 12:09 AM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 20461820)
once again - that is right now just propaganda.

IF the claim is legit - and hundreds of lawyers and historians will be busy with this for a while - there are already many Germans that say that this would need to be honored

Not trying to hassle you but I guess you're kind of the defacto spokesman for Germany on this forum.

History might be written by the victorious but just the same your co-patriot predecessors still weren't by any means angels. Amongst other things they were legendary in their ability to steal everything including the stuff that was nailed down. So I'll agree in principle that the Greek government is obviously milking the excuse for their own benefit.

But just how much is fact and how much is milk?

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Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 20461820)
this has nothing to do with how the greek government(s) handles money and their economy. that has to change - now.

If you had ever been in Greece prior to the E.U and the euro you would know that Greece was always a poor nation. BUT IT WORKED! It worked because of the Greek culture and the Greek mentality. They never needed the euro and they certainly never needed to be part of European Union.

I've got a great wall tapestry from Greece that says " No Money.... No Girlfriend... No Worries... GREECE!

Inside almost every Greek heart is someone that adores their family, would rather spend a day playing with children and can make a buck by standing on the street corner selling fruit, fish, etc. Unfortunately for the E.U. once a Greek has enough money to pay their bills they pretty much stop giving a shit about working.

(From what I remember most Greeks were happy to go home... go back to bed.. sleep.. get up at noon and get laid.. then eat dinner and later play with their children.)

Sorry but the European Union really fucked up that way of life and if you ask me it's how life should be!

Personally I support a financial default and a Greek exit from Europe. If it happens I'm going to buy land in Florina and find me a young Geek wife with a big set of hips and a dark hairy snatch. Then I'm going to lay on my ass all day in the sun growing a beard, drinking Mythos beer, eating grapes and seeing how many times I can impregnate my woman.

PS. I'm not Greek but I'm willing to change that.

Tasty1 05-01-2015 12:03 PM

wow, Germany is even considering paying Greece i read in the Dutch news. I hope other countries won't follow. But it could be good for Greece. Give them money so they can pay their debts and start over with the Drachme.

klinton 05-01-2015 08:10 PM

yeah, right...Greece is like a big blackhole that will suck all money and destroy UE ;-)
it is neverending story
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Originally Posted by Bjorn_Tasty1 (Post 20464299)
wow, Germany is even considering paying Greece i read in the Dutch news. I hope other countries won't follow. But it could be good for Greece. Give them money so they can pay their debts and start over with the Drachme.


nico-t 05-02-2015 04:24 AM

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Originally Posted by klinton (Post 20464558)
yeah, right...Greece is like a big blackhole that will suck all money and destroy UE ;-)

lets hope so.

romeo22 05-02-2015 04:25 PM

Gread is like a big pot full with shit covered with a honey

klinton 05-02-2015 04:34 PM

said by Albanian :1orglaugh:1orglaugh
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Originally Posted by John_Galbani (Post 20462887)
Lazy people who do not work and want free loan moneys. Let them go and be like Russian alone.


ctzulu 05-05-2015 01:42 AM

im german
i find greece is one of the healthiest countries in whole europe
fantastic atmosphere ...

stoka 05-05-2015 01:51 AM

^ wordz o' wisdom

Sid70 05-05-2015 05:52 AM

Get it fucking leave the Euro zone and EU, make em another Montenegro - let's go cheap-atize 'em.

tsester 05-05-2015 03:46 PM

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and of course for a piece of bread......



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tsester 05-05-2015 03:50 PM

athens is already seen a boom in prostitution.


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Tasty1 05-05-2015 09:03 PM

That is what i mean. People have to work longer in Greece before they can retire, but 75% of the youth is unemployed. What is that for solution?

I hope Greece will be fine. Have been there at least 10 times and planning to go there for a few months. But i don't want to pay for it while the Greek people with money transferred it out of the country.

Maybe sell Cyprus to Turkey :) Than that problem is also solved.

shoot twice 05-05-2015 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Bjorn_Tasty1 (Post 20467639)
That is what i mean. People have to work longer in Greece before they can retire, but 75% of the youth is unemployed. What is that for solution?

I hope Greece will be fine. Have been there at least 10 times and planning to go there for a few months. But i don't want to pay for it while the Greek people with money transferred it out of the country.

Maybe sell Cyprus to Turkey :) Than that problem is also solved.

Leave the European Union and go back to being and living like Greeks. Problem solved.

Bladewire 05-05-2015 11:07 PM

Greek men are real, and hot!

Sid70 05-05-2015 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 20467665)
Greek men are real, and hot!

Not working but chilling days long makes you bored and sorta hot.


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