Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 20463729)

Where did they get those weapons Boko Haram or cyberseo?


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Originally Posted by Just Alex (Post 20463899)

So those are screen caps from a movie? :1orglaugh

Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 20464304)

So you sit at home in Finland and critique the US all day? Is this a new sport or you just bored?


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Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 20464007)

and let me just take this opportunity to say that the whiteys had nothing to do with the current situation africa is in today...the centuries of exploitation and slavery and kidnapping of africans to pick cotton in the USA are all completely irrelevant :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

before 1964 in the USA (just 50 years ago) a black person had to sit in the back of the bus, could not go to whitey school, could not go in to white shops ect ect...but in the eyes of the whitey 50 years is enough for kidnapped slaves and 2nd grade citizens to magically adapt and become more civilized than the whiteys were 50 years ago towards the blacks :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

oh the whitey hand wash :1orglaugh:1orglaugh no responsibility ever ever ever sticks to the hands of white americans...they can steal land, commit treason to their former countries by declaring "independence", pretend that they did not use the resources of their old countries to steal the land from the natives in the first place, pretend that they had no role in killing off the natives and basically putting them in concentration camps, then kidnap africans to work as slaves, then drop more bombs than hitler since ww2

remember folks: the white american is never responsible for anything :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

just apply whitey hand wash!

Originally Posted by NaughtyVisions (Post 20464383)

Horseshit.



I was born and raised in the USA, as were my parents, and their parents. This is our native land; it is NOT foreign land. We are not immigrants. I'd be willing to bet that the same applies to Grapesoda, L-Pink and others on here.

I should not be held accountable for things my ancestors did long before I was born.

Originally Posted by klinton (Post 20464477)

sure man..for sure...but did you asked yourself why in XVII, XVIII or XIX century, when white man has long distance ships, guns and pistols, black Africans were living like white men were in stone age ?
was it also a fault of white men ?:winkwink::winkwink::winkwink:

Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 20464674)

the white man is never ever responsible :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

what did the white man do with his long distance ships, guns and pistols? ENSLAVE the black man :thumbsup

it is never ever the white mans fault, nor the white mans systems fault...it can not be so because it is scientifically proven fact that americans can do no wrong :1orglaugh




obviously the slavery and military escorts were not the white mans fault :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh somebody will post about some black slave traders and this is all mericans will need to feel not responsible for anything at all :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 20464674)

the white man is never ever responsible :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

what did the white man do with his long distance ships, guns and pistols? ENSLAVE the black man :thumbsup

it is never ever the white mans fault, nor the white mans systems fault...it can not be so because it is scientifically proven fact that americans can do no wrong :1orglaugh

"land of the free"
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/...18_634x422.jpg

black people and their military escort to school
http://cdn.theatlantic.com/assets/me.../4e6be55d7.jpg

obviously the slavery and military escorts were not the white mans fault :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh somebody will post about some black slave traders and this is all mericans will need to feel not responsible for anything at all :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 20464674)

what did the white man do with his long distance ships, guns and pistols? ENSLAVE the black man :thumbsup

Originally Posted by klinton (Post 20464733)

but did you asked yourself WHY in XVII, XVIII or XIX century, when white man has long distance ships, guns and pistols, black Africans were living like white men were in stone age ?

Originally Posted by klinton (Post 20464733)

I dont know if I'm not writing in English or you dont understand English, but you didnt answer my question.
which was:
but did you asked yourself WHY in XVII, XVIII or XIX century, when white man has long distance ships, guns and pistols, black Africans were living like white men were in stone age ?
was it also a fault of white men ?

Originally Posted by aka123 (Post 20464785)

Except that they weren't living like in stone age. Africa is fucking big continent for starters. Some people accustomed living in there with a style that didn't need and even couldn't support making guns, ships, etc. Some had more agriculture, but excluding Egypt none had agriculture in the same scale than in here (but had cities, etc). Western folks tamed Africa with modern medicine and methods, before that they had hard times (couldn't do it), and timewise all this happened not that long time ago. And it still isn't quite tamed. Malaria and all that shit ain't that much tamed yet.

Advanced societies need large scale agriculture. No big guns and ships without it, and no large armies. And it is hard to have large scale agriculture in Africa without modern methods, and developing modern methods requires large scale agriculture (so, dead end).

Originally Posted by klinton (Post 20464733)

I dont know if I'm not writing in English or you dont understand English, but you didnt answer my question.
which was:
but did you asked yourself WHY in XVII, XVIII or XIX century, when white man has long distance ships, guns and pistols, black Africans were living like white men were in stone age ?
was it also a fault of white men ?

Originally Posted by aka123 (Post 20464785)

Except that they weren't living like in stone age. Africa is fucking big continent for starters. Some people accustomed living in there with a style that didn't need and even couldn't support making guns, ships, etc. Some had more agriculture, but excluding Egypt none had agriculture in the same scale than in here (but had cities, etc). Western folks tamed Africa with modern medicine and methods, before that they had hard times (couldn't do it), and timewise all this happened not that long time ago. And it still isn't quite tamed. Malaria and all that shit ain't that much tamed yet.

Advanced societies need large scale agriculture. No big guns and ships without it, and no large armies. And it is hard to have large scale agriculture in Africa without modern methods, and developing modern methods requires large scale agriculture (so, dead end).

Originally Posted by Grapesoda (Post 20464806)

it was gw bush's fault, that and the k2 boundary, both bush's fault... :2 cents:

Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 20464817)

and I showed you how the typical white man treats the typical black man with some pictures from the worlds most advanced society just 50 years ago...my English is fine thank you :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

stone age is a bit of stretch...not having ships for transporting guns and pistols is a crime?...focusing on agriculture is evil?...

why are africans supposed to satisfy some westerners standard or idea of how they should live? :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

also how africans lived has shit all to do with how they live now in the USA...the whitey brought them there in a whitey system and they, the african people, are not doing well to say the least :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

now go wash your hands from any responsibility its the western thing to do :thumbsup we all know its their fault they got kidnapped and turned in to slaves and centuries later they need to be escorted to school by the military (just 50 years ago in the USA) and this is also the blacks fault for not using some of that "magic success powder" :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

ah watching whiteys dance around being responsible for anything at all :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Originally Posted by klinton (Post 20464866)

let me know if you will need just one more explanation why Africans were conquered few hundreds years ago...

Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 20464817)

they got kidnapped and turned in to slaves

Originally Posted by Grapesoda (Post 20464807)

whoops... that' is the STONE AGE... no bronze, no iron?? seriously dude your really reaching.... and native Africas did have large armies to FIGHT AND ENSLAVE each other... you really live in a 3rd grade dream world....

Originally Posted by klinton (Post 20464858)

and your point is ? was africa developed like Europe in XVI or XIX century or it was rather something like visit from Star Trek, when one developed civilisation meets the other one that is undeveloped ?

Originally Posted by aka123 (Post 20464890)

Have you taken something? And no, Africans didn't have large armies. Neither were western armies before industrialization started to kick in (at the times of conquering Africa).

Of course depends what you think is large army, but real mass armies golden age was from 1900 onwards. For example mighty Rome had about 180 000 men at best.

Originally Posted by Grapesoda (Post 20464895)

you're so fucking high :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh



Home - Ancient Warfare - Karwansaray Publishers

Originally Posted by rogueteens (Post 20464883)

You really don't understand who actually did the kidnapping and enslaving do you?

Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 20464868)

Africa was Conquered?

Originally Posted by WarChild (Post 20464898)

No, he really doesn't. In his mind, band of white men were roaming the African countryside taking poor African men from their villages where they lived in harmony and peace with natural and all the surrounding villages. Tribalism is just a myth perpetuated by white people to hold the black man down.

In all seriousness though, it's not really his fault. He's an undereducated war refugee with no real chance at life so he's quite bitter. Fair enough I guess.

Originally Posted by aka123 (Post 20464894)

My point was that Africa wasn't and isn't very good place for advanced societies. Especially the middle part. Around coast there are more suitable places; most notably Egypt and South-Africa. Both had somewhat advanced civilizations before westerners/ and or Asian inventions (like gunpowder).

Originally Posted by rogueteens (Post 20464883)

You really don't understand who actually did the kidnapping and enslaving do you?

Originally Posted by klinton (Post 20464976)

exactly, and the black people were living in....
and first time I hear that Africans were first to invent gunpowder, I've been always thinking it was a China;-):1orglaugh:1orglaugh
unless you mean guys from Middle East which is not exactly black Africa :)

Originally Posted by aka123 (Post 20464979)

Maybe you too should go to sleep? :)

"before westerners/ and or Asian inventions (like gunpowder)."

To be more exact: before westerners and the inventions from Middle-East and Asia. Chickens are from Asia too.

Originally Posted by aka123 (Post 20464979)

Maybe you too should go to sleep? :)

"before westerners/ and or Asian inventions (like gunpowder)."

To be more exact: before westerners and the inventions from Middle-East and Asia. Chickens are from Asia too.

Originally Posted by klinton (Post 20465091)

the only "empire" worth mentioning from Africa - and not from Middle east or North, Arab Africa- that comes to my mind is the Ethiopian empire.

Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 20464817)

and I showed you how the typical white man treats the typical black man with some pictures from the worlds most advanced society just 50 years ago...my English is fine thank you :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

stone age is a bit of stretch...not having ships for transporting guns and pistols is a crime?...focusing on agriculture is evil?...

why are africans supposed to satisfy some westerners standard or idea of how they should live? :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

also how africans lived has shit all to do with how they live now in the USA...the whitey brought them there in a whitey system and they, the african people, are not doing well to say the least :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

now go wash your hands from any responsibility its the western thing to do :thumbsup we all know its their fault they got kidnapped and turned in to slaves and centuries later they need to be escorted to school by the military (just 50 years ago in the USA) and this is also the blacks fault for not using some of that "magic success powder" :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

ah watching whiteys dance around being responsible for anything at all :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Originally Posted by ilnjscb (Post 20465411)

He just hates the USA, he jumps on any chance to criticize it; he never says anything positive. How many blacks do you have in Serbia? Be honest, what is the Serbian attitude towards blacks? What do you think of Islam? Be honest. Do you want to go into the war crimes of Serbia? People would take you more seriously if you discuss the good with the bad - look up the word "objective".

Originally Posted by ilnjscb (Post 20465411)

He just hates the USA, he jumps on any chance to criticize it; he never says anything positive.

Originally Posted by ilnjscb (Post 20465411)

How many blacks do you have in Serbia? Be honest, what is the Serbian attitude towards blacks? What do you think of Islam? Be honest. Do you want to go into the war crimes of Serbia? People would take you more seriously if you discuss the good with the bad - look up the word "objective".

Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 20465453)

well the US corporate government tells the rest of the world how to live either by political or financial extortion or by plain old terrorism...the USA "jumps on any chance" to criticize others, and its american population support this wholeheartedly...the USA never says anything positive about its "enemies":

vietman= evil evil communists trying to destroy the USA they deserve bombs!
korea= evil evil communists trying to destroy the USA they deserve bombs!
russians= evil evil communists trying to destroy the USA they deserve bombs!
avghanistan= evil evil muslims trying to destroy the USA they deserve bombs!
iran=evil evil muslims trying to destroy the USA they deserve bombs!
iraq=evil evil muslims trying to destroy the USA they deserve bombs!
africa=low IQ barbarians who deserve to be slaves
ect
ect


so in the light of the fact that the USA expects others to live like its corporate government says so, or get bombed, the USA opens itself wide open to criticism...your country is "great" if you are rich...and full of shit if you are not...

want others to stop mentioning you in a negative context? then stay the fuck at home, use your own oil, shut the fuck up, and do not make the rest of the world have to arm the fuck up to keep you klingons at home...also you may want to invest in education some more instead of the """""""""""""""""defence budget""""""""""""""""""






serbia is probably the whitest country in the world...we are poor as fuck and no black man in his right mind would come to serbia...maybe 2-3 basketball players or some poor exchange student...I think we have 100 blacks total, and we view them as exotic...like people from hawaii or wherever :1orglaugh

want objective? ok I think you should do the exact same thing in baltimore as you did in my country...there is obviously violence and trouble in baltimore, waaaaaaaaaaaaay mooooooooooore trouble than my country ever ever had *before the USA gave arms and logistical support to separatists in my country* so in all fairness I think you should arm the black people of baltimore like you armed the separatists in my country :thumbsup

you are obviously a troubled troubled country, where people riot in the streets and if this was some other shit hole you would be devastating the local economy with sanctions and blackmailing the shit out of the population with US corporate demands...

do as you did in serbia= arm the rioting population the fuck up and give them military and political support :thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup

Originally Posted by ilnjscb (Post 20465461)

I agree with you on some of the points above, and have said so many times. Do you see the difference? I don't come off as a cartoon character - do you have ANYTHING to say positive? Also do you really imagine that the US supports everything wholeheartedly? We in the US disagree with each other on many points - vigorously. When I travel internationally I am frequently embarrassed by our ridiculous spying on everyone everywhere - again I have said so many times. Now be a man and admit that Serbia has a fucked up hatred for the Croats - should I get the exact figures of how many men, women, and children were ruthlessly murdered? Do you hear anyone saying genocide? I challenge you now to say you apologize for all the children that were killed in the last 40 years by Serbian soldiers.

Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 20465501)

I do not live under the illusion that americans give a shit about anything other than merica...I really believe americans simply do not give a shit and this is what I really think...

as for "be a man and admit serbs hate croats" well you first have to learn a little history:

1) serbia was not involved in the war at all
2) the bosnian war was basically the whole world against the serb minority in BOSNIA and croatia, this is why it is called the war in BOSNIA and not the war in Serbia
3) we had more peace between serbia and croatia, before the US supported war, than the USA ever ever ever ever had on its own territory...
4) a peace deal was already signed by all 3 sides and then the USA gave military and political support to separatists...
5) american presidents and politics are not very honest, bill clinton "the man who did not have sex with that woman" is basically a good indicator of how desperate US politics have become...so is george "invisibe WMD in iraq" bush...

the USA is one political party above a dictatorship...and both parties have the same corporate masters...

Originally Posted by EonBlue (Post 20463706)

Shit's going to keep getting worse and worse.




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Originally Posted by ilnjscb (Post 20465541)

This saddens me - you devolve into trivia rather than simply say, here on an international board, that you are sorry for the *children* that were killed by Serbian soldiers. It wasn't your fault, but you could at least admit it. The things the US does are not my fault, but rather than go write 50,000 words per day about how I hate a random country X, I try to do something about it.

I have said publicly before you seem like a smart guy - your English is much better than my Serbian. But you would be more effective if you took a balanced view of your country and mine.

Originally Posted by ilnjscb (Post 20465541)

The things the US does are not my fault, .

Originally Posted by aka123 (Post 20465408)

But Carthage is most famous one (after even more ancient Egypt). Feared even by Roman empire. Actually, I am going to say Egypt, but these empires were at their height in so different times, that it is worth to mention both.

Originally Posted by klinton (Post 20465852)

2,000 years ago, founded in NORTH AFRICA and it was far from being "Black Empire" as it was founded by white Arab/ Semitian guys
:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Originally Posted by aka123 (Post 20465408)

But Carthage is most famous one (after even more ancient Egypt). Feared even by Roman empire. Actually, I am going to say Egypt, but these empires were at their height in so different times, that it is worth to mention both.

Originally Posted by Grapesoda (Post 20466174)

oh?? you referring to the civilization where every living animal, person and crop was destroyed, all the buildings pulled down and the land tilled with salt? that great civilization????:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh