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Joshua G 05-04-2015 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by shoot twice (Post 20464666)
I'll maintain to this day that the entire bullshit about Outer Space is only concerned with the weapons industry and the weaponization of space. Even the that stupid expensive pathfinder probe looking at rocks on Mars was and is nothing more then to develop long distance remote drone tech.

Screw space and screw NASA and all the other bullshit. Go out and clean up the fucking oceans instead.

so the only reason we are looking for aliens is so we can bomb them? OK.

:helpme

ilnjscb 05-04-2015 01:54 PM

self repair capable robots and nanobots = terraforming

I give it 45 - 60 years

pimpmaster9000 05-04-2015 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Joshua G (Post 20464336)
i read debates about this all the time. Hawking says we must leave this planet within 1000 years or we will be extinct.

but why does anyone think people can live outside earth? cause star trek says so?

fact is, many things are required on earth for us to live. The planet must be in the habitable zone. there must be abundant water. there must be a specific mixture of gases in the air, including oxygen. the earth must be tilted so there are seasons. there must be a magnetic field to protect us from cosmic rays. there must be ozone to protect us from UV rays. there must be a moon to provide a stable earth orbit around the sun. there must be a stable climate over thousands of years, no ice planets, supervolcanos or asteroids. we need to live with an air pressure of 14psi, & we need gravity. Need fertile soil to grow plants, & abundant land for both the plants & animals we eat.

the next closest planets are venus & mars. they are too hot, & too cold. no atmospheres. the next star is 24 trillion miles away. it takes a decade just to launch a robot to photograph Pluto, only 3 billion miles away. any human population traveling outside the solar system will reproduce into something not human in a gravity free environment.

we can barely get 3 people to live 6 months in an enclosed tube only miles outside earth orbit. How is the whole human race going to live without earth? & who would want to live inside a tube, with no gravity, no outdoors, for all their lives?

pipe dream. :2 cents:


why would we move to another planet?...makes no sense to keep our physical bodies and be limited by heat and weather ect...an advanced society can project a perfect "hollodeck"...upload the mind on to a chip or the brain in to a jar and we could all exist on a giant space ship...

it would make more sense to live in a virtual world in a small confined environment than to actually move to other planets and face the challenges there...

if you can not tell the difference, then it is the same...

here is some food for thought...

how do you know we are not already uploaded to some matrix? not by some grand architect but by ourselves...the most logical conclusion would be than an advanced society ceased to exist in flesh and blood form but opted for something more convenient...

like sim city...only 1000 years in the future where you can actually upload your thoughts in to the simulation...

you could have a virtual child and not be able to tell the difference...

making complicated space ships to bend time and support fragile human life is not the way I thin it will go...

we could be on our way to another planet right now! a whole planet put on a chip, travelling for the last 2000 years, when we arrive to the planet, our technology will replicate our bodies for us and terraform the planet to our needs...until then we travel space on auto pilot, in a dream where you simply continue your life in complete oblivion...

this is a more logical scenario for long distance space travel IMO

AmateurKing 05-04-2015 02:03 PM

Somebody is watching too much Marvel and scifi movies.

Who knows. A comet might collide before that and we might also have the fate of dinosaurs a thousand years from now.

pimpmaster9000 05-04-2015 02:19 PM

heres a 5 min cartoon about the double slit experiment, its basically proof that we are uploaded and that our environment reacts like a computer program would, the more you think about it the more sense it makes :1orglaugh

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DfPeprQ7oGc

bronco67 05-04-2015 07:13 PM

Who will be the first people to get they swerve on in space?

SilentKnight 05-04-2015 07:55 PM


EngineCash 05-05-2015 01:05 AM

Because of our nature, it is so difficult to live anywhere else... But, who knows, maybe one day we'll find some place where we can live and go there... :) :thumbsup

editeur 05-05-2015 04:03 AM

I think we might relocate, but it won't be a planned thing that we work for and achieve in the end. It will be a byproduct of something other, something that we can't iven imagine yet.
I can compare it with videophones. When I was young there were fiction movies and books where actors used videophones, and we all thought that engineers will invent a videophone earlier or later and how it will be related to the voice phone etc. Instead of this we got internet, we got skype, and oh yes, by the way we can also use internet and skype as a videophone. And it looks like there's nothing special in this and it is affordable for anyone.

shoot twice 05-05-2015 05:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Joshua G (Post 20466626)
so the only reason we are looking for aliens is so we can bomb them? OK.

:helpme


No so that humans can bomb other humans.


Problem with Star Trek fans is their in ability to think logically.

The only contact you're ever going to make with an alien will be Mexican and you're never going to fly in outer space or live on another planet. But there's good odds that some patriotic creep is using a satellite listen in on your phone conversations and very soon there's going to be a damn heavily armed police drone pulling you over on the highway asking to see your license. And all of this enslaving technological shit is being made possible by organizations like NASA.

OK??? Or do you need William Shatner to explain this?

druid66 05-05-2015 06:03 AM

humans won't be extinct in next 1k years, our civilization maybe but then other civilization will raise, it's happend already at least one time and most probably few times, just check dates - and i mean NEW dates, based on newest technology of some monuments like temples in egypt, sphinx or those drowned pyramids on the shores of Japan - all those monuments are marked around 10-15k years back - where is those civilization now? and who says it was 1st civilization which are no longer exist?

and i agree we should at least colonize our planetary system, for the start living inside domes - i'm not sure if we are able to do some "tarraforming" i think not yet. and for sure we should look for the way to leave our planetary system - all those as sonner the better.

CaptainHowdy 05-05-2015 06:05 AM

Yes and no ...

Naughty 05-05-2015 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 20466641)
you could have a virtual child and not be able to tell the difference...

Maybe my virtual child could upload some much needed extra cash into my bankaccount.

webcamnews 05-06-2015 04:34 AM

Aliens already walk among us and are refusing to share their technology until we change our warring and polluting ways...

MiamiBoyz 05-06-2015 05:38 AM

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Originally Posted by druid66 (Post 20467024)
humans won't be extinct in next 1k years, our civilization maybe but then other civilization will raise, it's happend already at least one time and most probably few times, just check dates - and i mean NEW dates, based on newest technology of some monuments like temples in egypt, sphinx or those drowned pyramids on the shores of Japan - all those monuments are marked around 10-15k years back - where is those civilization now? and who says it was 1st civilization which are no longer exist?

and i agree we should at least colonize our planetary system, for the start living inside domes - i'm not sure if we are able to do some "tarraforming" i think not yet. and for sure we should look for the way to leave our planetary system - all those as sonner the better.

Sorry but it's sure easy to say but there are just too many things that can wipe us out and range from full out nuclear war (most likely one)...global environment changes...comet...pandemic disease...antibiotic resistant diseases and so forth.

We don't have the technology to travel light years and probably never will and stated before really doesn't matter if we had it today.

Sorry but...

http://www.vhemt.org/ecodepthgauge.jpg

LINK

scarlettcontent 05-06-2015 08:38 AM

there are probably many planets near by which we haven?t found yet. technology is moving very fast. terraforming the moon could be started today but we spend more money on war than anything else. its a crazy world :( even if we did move to the moon some terrorist would blow it up.

2MuchMark 05-06-2015 08:52 AM

All I can say is that I hope we can overcome the technological and other challenges, and venture out into deep space one day soon. I think we'll get there.

It took only 10 years to get to the moon once the initiative began, and today we have robots on Mars and checking out other planets in our solar system. And we have identified hundreds of other planets - something that would have been unheard of only 10 years ago.

There are some cool technologies just around the corner that will get us where we want to go. I used to think that we would wipe ourselves out before we got close, but no more. Despite the world's crazy problems, I'm very hopeful for the future.

Joshua G 05-06-2015 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by shoot twice (Post 20467012)

No so that humans can bomb other humans.


Problem with Star Trek fans is their in ability to think logically.

The only contact you're ever going to make with an alien will be Mexican and you're never going to fly in outer space or live on another planet. But there's good odds that some patriotic creep is using a satellite listen in on your phone conversations and very soon there's going to be a damn heavily armed police drone pulling you over on the highway asking to see your license. And all of this enslaving technological shit is being made possible by organizations like NASA.

OK??? Or do you need William Shatner to explain this?

why dont you take your conspiracy horseshit into your own tread. here i am looking for thoughts on human race viability in space. thanks.

:error

brassmonkey 05-06-2015 09:24 AM

some asshole would shoot a hole in the hull :2 cents: :2 cents:

Joshua G 05-06-2015 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20466623)
gonna be hard to colonize outer space amigos! and not arrive at the destination with a bunch of **********s.

NASA Astronauts Heading to Mars Could Arrive Brain Damaged : SPACE : Science Times

thank you for this link. seems like people are duped that living in space will be like having a picnic on a sunny day. Basically, if we live in space, the human body will evolve so fast to adapt to the new conditions that the resulting organism may very well be the prototype aliens we see on TV. We certainly wont stay human long.

But i dont think multiple generations of a population of people can live anywhere other than this planet. We are wayyyyyy too fragile & need many resources. machine intelligence to me is the only hope of transitioning knowledge off earth.

just a punk 05-10-2015 03:22 AM

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