that's some circular shit right there.

hopefully your hypertension will not lead you to having a fatal disease, if it does, here's some good reading on the 5 stages of accepting a chronic disease. it will provide you some insight on your journey of handling your disease

Five Stages of Accepting an Illness

Actually I meant to thank you for that post. I get a checkup every year and this year while being just a little higher than normal, it made me be more careful in what I eat, and got me to exercise more. A friend of mind went in for a checkup and her BP was sky high too. She didn't tell me if the doctor freaked out or not but I know she changed her habits after finding out.

Thanks for sharing.

He deserves no Obamacare because he wanted no Obamacare. Nothing circular about that.

I don't want him to go blind. I hope he gets the care he needs. What I don't like is that he is blaming everyone but himself for his issues. I think people would have a lot more sympathy for him if he had come out said, "I was stubborn and dumb and didn't take care of my medical needs. I also didn't get health insurance when I had the chance and now I am in a bad way." Instead he blames the liberals and Obama for his situation.

that's some circular shit you did with YOUR comments in this thread, not his sitch.

My comments in this thread were all about his situation.

i just don't see that as a reason. again, the guy was diagnosed with a major chronic disease and combined with his personal beliefs is now denied access to affordable healthcare.

instead of pouncing on this guy, why not embrace the fact that regardless of creed, fucking aha should be accessible to even people that dislike obama.

i mean really, i simply completely and wholeheartedly disagree with making the focus of this about the guy's political beliefs.

madalton hit the nail on the head, regardless of this guy's political beliefs and mistakes taking responsibility for his medical condition, which by the way would in no way at all have guaranteed his not going blind, he should not be denied access to civilized affordable healthcare and he's certainly deserves access.

this is 2015, not 1520.

hey, heads-up, you JUST went off on a tangent commenting on my posts here- false analogies, etc, and even exclaiming i don't let others have their opinions.

you're going to have to step your debating skills up now that you think you can play at this level. no offense, just trying to help you so these little tangents you like to claim you don't go off on will be more fun and challenging for me. :)

Tangential comments regarding your posts are off limits here? I didn't exclaim the you don't let others have their opinions. I asked you a question.

His personal beliefs have nothing to do with the government refusing him access to Obamacare.

The government denied him Obamacare because he willfully missed the deadline.

When one signs up for Obamacare, the application does not ask about personal beliefs.

It is accessible to him....starting Oct 15. Hopefully he won;t miss the deadline again.

Well he can pay for his medical bills until Oct 15. That's what he wanted to do in the first place anyhow.

The reason people can't separate them is that this guy is a victim of his own beliefs. If there was no Obamacare he would be in the exact same situation. The difference would be that he would have never had a chance to buy health insurance because no company would have sold it to him with diabetes.

I would love for every person to have access to affordable or free healthcare when they need it. This guy didn't want that and now he is finding out first hand what that world is like.

As I said, I think he should get the help he needs and I hope he does, but I don't think it is a bad thing for people to point out to him that he brought this shit on himself and maybe he should look in the mirror before blaming others.

The wife even said that her husband should be in the "front of the line" to get Obamacare. She calls it the "Not Fair Health Care Act".

Are you freaking kidding me? He should be in the front of the line for a program that he hated, argued against, and did not even bother to sign up for when he had the chance? Yea right, its ABSOLUTELY FAIR. He wilfully missed the deadline. So he can signup whwn enrollment opens again in Oct 15. These aren't secret deadlines. Its all 100% FAIR.

yeah, i disagree with looking at someone getting a chronic disease as an opportunity to lambast them with ridicule couched as his missed chance for self-introspection. none of us know at all what self-reflection this person has done. maybe even less than we think, maybe a lot more. nevertheless, we would all be better served if this were looked at as an opportunity to fix a glitch in the system.

i get how people want to feel better about themselves by bitchslapping this guy, but really not only does that not help anything, it avoids the real issue- he was denied access to AHA at a time when he needed it.

• ObamaCare’s goal is to give more Americans access to affordable, quality health insurance and to reduce the growth in U.S. health care spending.

• The Affordable Care Act expands the affordability, quality, and availability of private and public health insurance through consumer protections, regulations, subsidies, taxes, insurance exchanges, and other reforms.

ObamaCare Facts: Facts on the Affordable Care Act


since the goal is to give more Americans access, and this guy was denied access, it seems to me that in order to achieve the goal, we would want to focus on fixing the lack of access for people like this guy, not pointing finger at him.

We do know that back in December when he discovered his medical condition, his "self-reflection" prompted him to refuse Obamacare.

What "glitch"? The enrollment period dates were announced long ago.

Wrong. He denied himself access to AHA at a time when he needed it...which was back in December 2014 when enrollment was still open.

Insurance issues aside, I think the guy is a douche for not using any of the equity in his house to cover his own mistakes before he starts pointing blame and publicly begging.

But that's based on my own beliefs …..


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Assuming he has any legitimate equity in his house...he probably tried that route and got shot down because of his inconsistent income.

look, i get your need to point your finger at this guy, i've already made that clear.

so that means i get your lack of ability to realize that no one should be denied access the affordable healthcare, especially in a time of serious need.

again, i get you don't care about this guy missing his chance.

again, i get that you do not care about this guy missing his chance at affordable health care coverage of his medical bills, on account of, you know, the enrollment dates were public info.


that's your logic and you're entitled to it, don't expect sell me on it.

Let's put it like this. Say I purposely choose not to wear a seatbelt while in a car. One afternoon I am involved in an accident. I'm thrown from the car and badly hurt. Do I not deserve medical care because I chose not to wear a seatbelt? No, not at all. I should get that medical care. However, is it not fair to have someone then say to me, "Look, had you been wearing your seatbelt you wouldn't have been hurt nearly as bad. You made a poor choice and I hope you will choose differently in the future."?


I did a quick search and found this

SC man will get sight-saving surgery as liberal donors chip in | The Charlotte Observer The Charlotte Observer

It is a story done about him since this all went viral. In it he still blames the government , but he acknowledges it is the state as well as the feds that failed him. He also says he has learned some things including that he should have taken better care of himself and he should have gotten health insurance when he could.

So maybe all of this has helped him have some of that introspection. He will get the surgery he needs and he might just change his mind about a few things. No harm in that.

if anyone is confused, i get that tclgirls thinks this guy does not deserve to have eyesight on account of this guy not agreeing with the law and missing the enrollment window.

I never claimed that the government should deny him affordable health care. The government should allow him access to Obamacare...even though he does not deserve it.

The fact is he denied himself affordable healthcare.

I never said this guy deserves to be blind. I said he deserves what he wanted...which was no Obamacare.

exactly. there is no harm in any of that. that's where i've been coming from. he was diagnosed with a chronic disease, reacted to it in textbook fashion- following the 5 stages of accepting a chronic disease, including denial and ultimately acceptance.

none of the mean-spirited comments had anything to do with that.

he ultimately realized he wanted/needed affordable healthcare. obamacare would have given him the medical coverage to pay for repairing his eyes, which he could not afford, ergo, he would not be able to get the procedures to keep his eyesight without obamacare-> you don't care if he goes blind.

you really shouldn't back down from your positions. i mean really, embrace the fact that you think "fuck this guy, he deserves what he gets or doesn't get." you're trying to come across as serious here, so seriously you should know that no obamacare for this guy meant no medical attention to stop him from going blind.

you've beat around the bush about that for quite a few posts.

Losing eyesight due to diabetes takes years. It wasn't like he was diagnosed with diabetes just this past December. How long does it take someone to go through the 5 stages of accepting a diabetes diagnosis? When a doctor says that diabetes is causing one to lose his/her eyesight, how long should it take to accept that fact?

I feel sorry for a lot of people. In fact I feel sorry for most of the people on GFY lol. This guy I feel more of a WTF were you thinking? This is someone who from what I've read has refused to pay for any type of heath insurance ever.

He knew he had diabetes and not only did he not quit smoking he also DECIDED to not get health insurance. The minute he found out he had diabetes he should have taken whatever steps necessary to protect himself and his family. He should have jumped for joy Obama care existed and covered his pre-existing condition.

Hate Obama all you want but if you're drowning and he throws you a life-preserver take it!

Yes, Dyna Mo he should have insurance, technically he broke the law not having insurance. But what's next, his wife begging for money when he dies and leaves her with no way to live and keep their house because he doesn't have life insurance either?


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you have literally no idea what you are talking about. again.

He was already out of work on December 2014. So by then he already realized he needed affordable healthcare. He denied himself such healthcare. If people deny themselves the things they need, why is there a burden for anyone else to care about that? It's not like he was mentally deficient and thus needed supervision.

I haven't back down form my position. I still think he does not deserve Obamacare because he was initially against it. And even now he blames Obama for it. Legally, he is still entitled to it.

Once he admits that he is in favor of Obamacare, and stops blaming Obama for his own mistakes, then I will say he deserves Obamacare.

you make it seem like obamacare and stopping smoking would have magically kept this guy from developing eye problems.

on top of putting your own timeline on someone's handling their receiving a chronic disease diagnosis.

Those were questions.

you state that like you think i don't know that.

Really?

"Generally, diabetics don't develop diabetic retinopathy until they have had diabetes for at least 10 years. But it is unwise to wait that long for an eye exam."

Diabetic Retinopathy and Diabetes-Related Eye Problems [Videos]

So you're in favor of removing the enrollment window altogether and allowing people to signup for Obamacare 365 days a year? Not saying that would be a bad idea necessarily, just trying to figure out where you're coming from here.

you think 10 years is a long time for a chronic illness? tell that to the infants with diabetes or heart disease. you think that 10 years starts when the illness is first diagnosed? tell that to this guy who has serious diabetic complications within a year of diagnosis and his eye issues were the results of several mini-strokes.

again, you truly have no idea what you are going on about and who you are going on about with re: diabetes and especially retinopathy.

That means your comment to me, "you have literally no idea what you are talking about. again" was a non-sequitur... because the questions I asked were not definitive statements. I was asking you the question.

Yes I think 10 years is long enough for a person to complete the 5 stages of acceptance.

From what i've read in other stories he admits to never having and not believing in insurance, but now he's begging and everyone else is at fault. ….. I'm leaving this thread with a photo of him taken for this story and the fucker has a pack of Marlboro Menthol's in his pocket. Really?


edit: I do wonder if this guy drove a Prius with an "Obama" sticker on it and said he just forgot to enroll if the majority of the posts would have a different slant? Are most of the opinions purely political? People getting back at a conservative? Worth thinking about. (But the fucker still has a pack of cigs in his pocket)


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i've been drawn away from my original point, which was pointing fingers at this guy and claiming he deserves going blind due to his political beliefs doesn't help.

it very well may be that enrollment should happen year round, the fact is this guy was denied access when he needed it and that should be a concern for anyone. perhaps better marketing, perhaps expanding the window, either way, i think it's important to look at how a system designed to allow more people access can allow more people access.

your questions were like asking someone why is the sky neon pink.