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nico-t 05-13-2015 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20473157)
And the co-architect of this, Hillary Clinton, is embracing this record while asking for a promotion to commander in chief.


Being weak leaves us friendless - The Washington Post


that's what the USA gets in return for Obama forging the way for iran to get nuke capability.

thanks Obama

'being weak'? And now not going to war for a change = new wars? So the US should go to war with Iran to.... not go to war? WTF kind of logic is that :1orglaugh And the people reading shit media all eat it up.

"We don't want more war and to do that we should go to war with Iran"

Fucking brilliant marketing there from the government & media. No matter what side you're on now, the end result is another war. Brilliant! And dumb voters all eat it up. "oh we have no choice we gotta go to war to prevent war"
Yeah, just like Iraq right. Seems like peoples memories keep getting shorter by the second.

dyna mo 05-13-2015 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by nico-t (Post 20473681)
'being weak'? And now not going to war for a change = new wars? So the US should go to war with Iran to.... not go to war? WTF kind of logic is that :1orglaugh And the people reading shit media all eat it up.

"We don't want more war and to do that we should go to war with Iran"

Fucking brilliant marketing there from the government & media. No matter what side you're on now, the end result is another war. Brilliant! And dumb voters all eat it up. "oh we have no choice we gotta go to war to prevent war"
Yeah, just like Iraq right. Seems like peoples memories keep getting shorter by the second.

who are you quoting about no war/war with iran? because it's not in the article this thread is about.

nico-t 05-13-2015 05:41 PM

US gov. were prepping for a war with iran, they started indoctrinating the people again via mainstream media with scary stories about nukes, which always gets you the back of your people. Constantly demonize a clear cut 'enemy' country via media and scare your people, and the people will believe the fairy tales.
The Iran business plan was eventually thrown out because the ROI was probably not good enough.

This has nothing to do with terrorism and nukes. It's a business, with ISIS being disgruntled former employees who started for themselves.

Robbie 05-13-2015 06:01 PM

@**********

Posting pics of people holding signs at an outdoor TEA Party rally doesn't mean that is what the TEA Party stands for.

Boy...the media and the govt. really don't want anyone to EVER believe that taxes can be lowered.
I've even read that some of those people with those signs are "ringers" sent in by liberal groups to further try to discredit the TEA Party.

It's "TAXED ENOUGH ALREADY". That's what the T.E.A. stands for.

But somehow...you think that fringe people holding signs are what TEA Party people stand for and believe?
That's just fucking stupid.

Why don't you Google up "racist signs at occupy protest" and hit the "images" tag.
Does what you see mean that the "occupy wall street" movement was racist?

Of course not.
And yet you try (along with crockett and the fake liberals) to paint the TEA Party as racist for the exact same shit.
Surely you can see how stupid that is.

dyna mo 05-13-2015 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by nico-t (Post 20473693)
US gov. were prepping for a war with iran, they started indoctrinating the people again via mainstream media with scary stories about nukes, which always gets you the back of your people. Constantly demonize a clear cut 'enemy' country via media and scare your people, and the people will believe the fairy tales.
The Iran business plan was eventually thrown out because the ROI was probably not good enough.

This has nothing to do with terrorism and nukes. It's a business, with ISIS being disgruntled former employees who started for themselves.

of course USA has contigency war plans.

of course Americans are raised on fear.

you say that like we don't know that and that this is something new.

from 75 years ago.


kane 05-13-2015 07:53 PM

There is no winning scenario as far as the Middle East is involved. That part of the world has known nothing but unrest and bloodshed since the beginning of recorded history. There is no reason to think it will ever be different.

I say fuck em. We pull out of that part of the world and let them deal with each other how they may.

pimpmaster9000 05-14-2015 02:54 AM

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Originally Posted by kane (Post 20473769)
That part of the world has known nothing but unrest and bloodshed since the beginning of recorded history.

http://www.personal.psu.edu/afr3/blo...nd-washing.jpg

Barry-xlovecam 05-14-2015 06:42 AM

Iran's Revolutionary Guard
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Guardians' of the Revolution
The Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps was formed by late supreme leader Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini in the wake of the 1979 Islamic Revolution that ousted Shah Reza Pahlavi. The IRGC was originally created as a "people's army" similar to the U.S. National Guard; commanders report directly to the supreme leader, Iran's top decision-maker. Iran's president has little influence on their day-to-day operations**(read: supreme commander AKA: the sitting Ayatollah)
Iran's Revolutionary Guards - Council on Foreign Relations
according to CNN:upsidedow

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First on CNN: Five Iranian boats fire shots in the Persian Gulf
By Barbara Starr, CNN Pentagon Correspondent
Updated 8:58 AM ET, Thu May 14, 2015
(CNN)Five Iranian boats fired shots across the bow of a Singapore flagged cargo vessel in the Persian Gulf on Thursday in an attempt to potentially stop the ship, a U.S. official told CNN. For the first time, the incident brought another Persian Gulf nation into the recent rising maritime tensions in the region.

Five Iranian boats fire shots in the Persian Gulf - CNNPolitics.com
Iran has fired on another commercial ship in the Persian Gulf. Kerry got sucker punched it looks like as the Revolutionary Guard is the Ayatollah's personal army to command -- they don't take their orders from the President of Iran or his nuclear talks negotiators. Now that any agreement will be debated in the US Senate, the Ayatollah has ''doubled down'' hoping to bust any agreements -- he may have bought his time...

nico-t 05-14-2015 06:56 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20473741)
of course USA has contigency war plans.

of course Americans are raised on fear.

you say that like we don't know that and that this is something new.

from 75 years ago.


So why did you start this thread if you are aware you are being manipulated by the media? What was the point of posting that bullshit story with that horribly blatant propaganda title, and you actually agreeing with it? To show you are 'in the know' that it's all bullshit and propaganda? Doesn't really look like it to be honest

dyna mo 05-14-2015 07:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam (Post 20474005)
Iran's Revolutionary Guard


according to CNN:upsidedow



Iran has fired on another commercial ship in the Persian Gulf. Kerry got sucker punched it looks like as the Revolutionary Guard is the Ayatollah's personal army to command -- they don't take their orders from the President of Iran or his nuclear talks negotiators. Now that any agreement will be debated in the US Senate, the Ayatollah has ''doubled down'' hoping to bust any agreements -- he may have bought his time...

the nuke accord will not ever be signed. combined with the rest of the ME now aligned against USA since BO tried to give iran nuclear capability. and a presidential candidate who was part of creating the quaqmire there and is embracing the current admin's policies.

i hope we get those f-35s working right, we're gonna need them.

dyna mo 05-14-2015 07:02 AM

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Originally Posted by nico-t (Post 20474012)
So why did you start this thread if you are aware you are being manipulated by the media? What was the point of posting that bullshit story with that horribly blatant propaganda title, and you actually agreeing with it? To show you are 'in the know' that it's all bullshit and propaganda? Doesn't really look like it to be honest

what the fuck difference does it make why the fuck i started this thread. i couldn't give 1 single fucking shit what you think about my motivation for starting a fucking thread.

gofuckyourself

dyna mo 05-14-2015 07:03 AM

lolz, some fuckwad gfyer thinks he deserves a fucking explanation for why someone starts a fucking thread.

fuck you.

nico-t 05-14-2015 10:25 AM

those are alot of fucks, relax i'm not attacking you. I was just wondering why someone claims to be aware of bullshit propaganda, yet agrees with said bullshit propaganda. Anyway, it's all good, what the fuck do i even care :1orglaugh

dyna mo 05-14-2015 11:14 AM

this is gofuckyourself. when someone basically tells me to gofuckmyself by demanding reasons for why i posted what they consider an objectionable thread, i'll use gofuckyourself terminology in reply.

Robbie 05-14-2015 02:11 PM

I guess that dyna mo completely made crockett his bitch in this discussion.

I think I see crockett over in the corner scared and crying like a girl.

Damn crockett got served HARD by dyna mo. :)

crockett 05-14-2015 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 20474358)
I guess that dyna mo completely made crockett his bitch in this discussion.

I think I see crockett over in the corner scared and crying like a girl.

Damn crockett got served HARD by dyna mo. :)


What on Earth are you talking about? Put down the crack pipe Robbie..

This is the only post Dyna made to me..

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20473255)
look at everything you just pointed out and ask yourself if BO's focusing on forging the path for IRan having nuclear capability makes sense while ignoring allies in the region and consequential disruptions and promises by other countries to get nukes if the iran deal is finalized. and do you really want the next president to be the primary backer of this failed policy?


Robbie 05-14-2015 03:03 PM

My apologies crockett...it wasn't this thread.

It was THIS thread where dyna mo made you his bitch:
https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-pr...s-obama-4.html

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh


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