Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 20476285)

and you are a typical 'mericunt :1orglaugh

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20476247)

yup, typical libtard, when they're shown how fucking wrong they are, they try and deflect with a meme that makes no sense.

Originally Posted by crockett (Post 20476289)

Sorry, I don't have time to read all your copy and pastes atm, so only have time to feed your fake outrage.

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20476287)

i couldn't give 1 single shit what a genocider thinks of me.

Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 20476298)

and I hold the terrorist supporters opinion in such high regard :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20476304)

i know that. that's why you hang out here. because you suck USA cock.

Originally Posted by crockett (Post 20475830)

Pressure on the people with the current power is the only way to do it.. If tens of thousands of people were protesting Bohners office, Reid's office and other high ranking members of the house and senate with a unified voice of end the spying they would be forced to comply.

Civil disobedience works wonders if it has a unified goal. Instead they just encourage people to join teams and pretend one team is diffrent than the other. While they are diffrent in many areas, the NSA and spying is one area they are equally fucking everyone.

Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 20476422)

no I hang out here to relive boredom and troll stupid shits like you :thumbsup:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Originally Posted by Joshua G (Post 20476510)

man ask the japanese at okinawa how all their protesting has gone to get the US military off their island. been going on decades.

im suprised you tried to answer that question. there is nothing anyone can do to stop the defense industry watching over everything they can. wait til everyone has GPS embedded into them at birth. its to keep your child safe, of course!

:winkwink:

Originally Posted by crockett (Post 20476535)

It's easy for the govt to ignore them as it's another country and there is no added pressure from here in the states. However if you start protesting in very visible places and directly protesting those whom run Congress then things can be made to happen.

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20475458)

I always gets blasted for this, but frankly.... I just don't care. If the US government wants to read my texts and my emails they can knock themselves out. There is just absolutely nothing of interest there.

And please don't tell me "this is what they said when the Nazis came to power". No, it isn't.

Originally Posted by MFCT (Post 20476553)

I was trying to make sense of why they'd waste such time and resources turning the spy cross-hairs on Americans, instead of hostile groups in the Middle East. You know, like the ones who did 911?

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20475458)

I always gets blasted for this, but frankly.... I just don't care. If the US government wants to read my texts and my emails they can knock themselves out. There is just absolutely nothing of interest there.

And please don't tell me "this is what they said when the Nazis came to power". No, it isn't.

Originally Posted by crockett (Post 20475382)

This month the supreme court ruled that the NSA was over reaching it's lawful ability to spy on American citizens. The ruling stated that they had gone way beyond what Congress authorized.

This put the ball into Congress's court to do the "right thing" and take back some "freedoms" which have been thrown in the garbage. This month the Patriot Act is up for renewal and this is the defining moment as to if Congress removes the NSA's current spying power, legitimizes it or gives them more..

They have opted to give the NSA even more spying power than it already has.. "yey freedom"..

The New NSA Reform Bill Would Give the Government Even More Power to Spy on Your Smartphone | VICE | United States

Every asshole whom voted in favor..

http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2015/roll224.xml


The house has voted to allow the NSA to keep in their possession every phone call record which takes place in the US and hold on to them for 5 years. Previously the telco companies held these records and the govt was "supposed" to get a warrant to access these records. (we all know the warrants weren't happening)

With this new bill the govt will hold on to the records meaning they will have access to them once again with out warrants.

The bill also allows them to track internet data on smart phones, something they weren't allowed to do before with out a warrant.

This is what the House calls the "USA Freedom Act". I think it means freedom to spy on the USA.. Meanwhile the NSA doesn't think this is enough and are lobbying for full access to all internet traffic.

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 20476644)

Because it's never been about watching goat herders in the Middle East. It's always been about watching us. Keeping us under control and docile.

Just look at the TSA at the airports. They've never found a single "terrorist" or bomb.
But they find plenty of pot and baggies of cocaine. It was just an excuse to give the govt. the ability to FINALLY search us. And we the people are practically BEGGING them to do it.

Disgusting.

Originally Posted by MFCT (Post 20476553)

I was trying to make sense of why they'd waste such time and resources turning the spy cross-hairs on Americans, instead of hostile groups in the Middle East. You know, like the ones who did 911? Then a possible scenario occurred to me.

Maybe the NSA doesn't have the kind of access to telecoms and internet infrastructure in the Middle East that they do here in the USA. They'd have to deal with each of those governments first. Maybe they can't depend on every government in the Middle East to agree 100%, cooperate with 100% of what they want, 100% of the time. However, in the USA its a non-issue.

With the wide-open southern border, where anyone from anywhere can cross over without question and possibly be rewarded with citizenship, could it be that they WANT every hostile group in the world to cross over into USA via Mexico? So they can spy on their phone records and internet traffic unimpeded? And then use that information to thwart any evil intent those groups might have?

If that's the plan, it seems like a very bad idea, and a very risky gamble. But its one thing that might explain why they're so hell-bent on continually extending and passing such Bizarro-world laws.

Just my 2 cents.