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TubeSubmitters 05-19-2015 03:45 AM

Did you hear that AmaKings raised their minimum payout to $1000.00 ?

Mr Pheer 05-19-2015 05:03 AM

I'd name them here

There have been a few times that I've had problems with sponsors and couldnt get it resolved through my rep, then I'd post it here and it was resolved within minutes.

MiamiBoyz 05-19-2015 05:12 AM

Assholes should pay! Britney would and so would that cocksucker Jesus

http://41.media.tumblr.com/163beeb89...5zpo1_1280.png

Socks 05-19-2015 05:20 AM

I think having *many* angry affiliates is worse for them than one semi-angry affiliate, and would get you paid faster.

pornguy 05-19-2015 05:20 AM

1000 is pretty high and they should work something out with you. but really you should be talking with them.

EliteWebmaster 05-19-2015 07:20 AM

It's the right thing to do to warn others on the board. It's selfish on your end to not want to reveal their name "in hopes they see the thread and get scared" and pay you. If they are secretly changing their terms to you and if they are a big "well known company", think how many smaller affiliates they are basically screwing over just like they are doing to you.

You would be doing a disservice to others on the board by protecting this company. If anything, you outing them would make them pay you faster because it would damage their reputation that they are raising the minimum payout from $50 to an absurd $1000. That's a sign of shady business practice no matter how big the company is.

I had no problems outing AshleyMadison a few months back here:
https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-pr...son-shady.html
even though I promoted them and did well with them.

By outing them, you would be helping existing affiliates unaware of this new payout change and new affiliates that was thinking of promoting that program.

TheSquealer 05-19-2015 07:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XSAXS (Post 20477542)
Hint: Perhaps this thread, and my thoughtful decision NOT to smear them publicly will incentivize them to do the right thing and pay me immediately.

HINT: That is simply a post hoc rationalization of your immature behavior. The way you conduct yourself reflects on you, not others. Further, if your business mattered at all to them, you wouldn't need to create a thread. Act like a business person, not a burger flipper.... Focus on productivity and goals, not stupidity, immaturity and nonsense. Few things in this life are more futile than attempting to change the behaviors of others.

XSAXS 05-19-2015 08:58 AM

They are on notice and the clock is ticking. We'll see how they choose to handle it.

Stay tuned.

http://i.imgur.com/cVsiYGP.jpg

XSAXS 05-19-2015 08:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TubeSubmitters (Post 20477728)
Did you hear that AmaKings raised their minimum payout to $1000.00 ?

Is this true? I hadn't heard this.

Bladewire 05-19-2015 09:04 AM

You have all the power. The future of their business is in your hands.

The Porn Nerd 05-19-2015 09:16 AM

FIDDY ridiculously high payout minimums.

JFK 05-19-2015 09:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd (Post 20477505)
$1000 minimum is fucking insane.

certainly IS :2 cents:

MrBottomTooth 05-19-2015 09:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TubeSubmitters (Post 20477728)
Did you hear that AmaKings raised their minimum payout to $1000.00 ?

I checked their site to see if this is the company he was talking about. They still have a $100 minimum for cheques and it is $1000 for wires , with a $45 fee for wires.

robwod 05-19-2015 09:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JFK (Post 20478000)
certainly IS :2 cents:

I could see it for International Wires. It's just easier to get things in chunks of 1k with wires.

I forget who it was.. it may or may not have been Twistys -- this was several years ago. Whomever it was, wire payouts had a threshold of 1k or 2k, I forget which. It'd be kind of silly to pay 30 to 50 dollars for anything less than $500.

baddog 05-19-2015 10:40 AM

#1. Relying on their reputation is inane as lots of big companies fold.
#2. I would tell them to close my account and send me the balance owed.

suesheboy 05-19-2015 11:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog (Post 20478053)
#1. Relying on their reputation is inane as lots of big companies fold.
#2. I would tell them to close my account and send me the balance owed.

quoted for correct answer.

Google Expert 05-19-2015 11:16 AM

$1000 min payout = exit scam

Harmon 05-19-2015 11:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 20477534)
I agree with MetaMan, the only clear choice is to ask a bunch of part timers, morons and degenerates how you should run your business. As well all know, Bill Gates, Paul Allen, Steve Jobs, Michael Dell and many other technology titans live and die by the questions they ask and the timeless advice they receieve on digital point, warrior forum and 4chan

Fucking lost it at MetaMan's post... ripped my shirt off in a pseudo bloody warrior like victory war and screamed at the top of my lungs when I read yours :1orglaugh

CaptainHowdy 05-19-2015 11:23 AM

Walk on ...

sonofsam 05-19-2015 12:05 PM

Nice email

You talk about the program not caring about the "smaller affiliates"

and then you make them an offer that you won't expose them if they pay you


Who doesn't care about the smaller affiliates now?


Seems like both you and the program are just as selfish

Tofu 05-19-2015 12:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XSAXS (Post 20477970)
They are on notice and the clock is ticking. We'll see how they choose to handle it.

Stay tuned.

http://i.imgur.com/cVsiYGP.jpg


If you are planning on moving one of your cam sites, I have got a sweet deal for you. You'll even be paid, in full and on time! You'll never have to post one of these threads...ever. Shoot me an email.

:thumbsup

Roald 05-19-2015 12:26 PM

Our minimum on checks is 1000 too. Paxum and wire are free and at 100 min. We also have a cam platform.... Hm

Not in the office atm as I am out on vacation but if this is about us drop me an email and we will sort it out.

Cheers!

Edit: the above ain't new though

XSAXS 05-19-2015 01:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roald (Post 20478156)
Our minimum on checks is 1000 too. Paxum and wire are free and at 100 min. We also have a cam platform.... Hm

Not in the office atm as I am out on vacation but if this is about us drop me an email and we will sort it out.

Cheers!

Edit: the above ain't new though

Nope, not you Roald. :thumbsup

XSAXS 05-19-2015 01:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sonofsam (Post 20478133)
Nice email

You talk about the program not caring about the "smaller affiliates"

and then you make them an offer that you won't expose them if they pay you

Who doesn't care about the smaller affiliates now?

Seems like both you and the program are just as selfish

You're making a good point, sonofsam. And perhaps I am a bit selfish. Aren't we all?

But... in the process I am raising awareness and teaching these clowns not to pull shit like this in the future. Next time they'll think twice. The next guy probably won't hesitate to name them immediately.

RTP 05-19-2015 03:01 PM

just fucking out them.

"i'm telling everyone on gfy"

isn't really going to have them worried

:1orglaugh

Joshua G 05-19-2015 03:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XSAXS (Post 20478194)
You're making a good point, sonofsam. And perhaps I am a bit selfish. Aren't we all?

But... in the process I am raising awareness and teaching these clowns not to pull shit like this in the future. Next time they'll think twice. The next guy probably won't hesitate to name them immediately.

you are the clown. the problem is that you love their program & dont want to stop promoting them, so you are suffering from battered woman syndrome. you are only showing the GFY community your bruises, & you will protect the name of your attacker, & that you are looking to get more beatings in the future. you even offer to give them more cam traffic :1orglaugh

:2 cents:

PaperstreetWinston 05-19-2015 04:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd (Post 20477505)
$1000 minimum is fucking insane.

yep, too much

SilentKnight 05-19-2015 04:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joshua G (Post 20478318)
you are the clown. the problem is that you love their program & dont want to stop promoting them, so you are suffering from battered woman syndrome. you are only showing the GFY community your bruises, & you will protect the name of your attacker, & that you are looking to get more beatings in the future. you even offer to give them more cam traffic :1orglaugh

:2 cents:

Great analogy. :2 cents::2 cents::thumbsup

mineistaken 05-19-2015 05:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roald (Post 20478156)
Our minimum on checks is 1000 too. Paxum and wire are free and at 100 min. We also have a cam platform.... Hm

Not in the office atm as I am out on vacation but if this is about us drop me an email and we will sort it out.

Cheers!

Edit: the above ain't new though

Minimum is not much the point. When he signed it was a lower minimum, so if the sponsor decides to make it higher, affiliate is entitled to get paid what he is owed (reached under the previous minimum).

So point is shady tactics, not the high minimum itself :)

And NAME THEM FFS!

The Porn Nerd 05-19-2015 06:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mineistaken (Post 20478387)
Minimum is not much the point. When he signed it was a lower minimum, so if the sponsor decides to make it higher, affiliate is entitled to get paid what he is owed (reached under the previous minimum).

So point is shady tactics, not the high minimum itself :)

And NAME THEM FFS!

I agree but it is also the $1000 limit that is daunting. Not only are there less affiliates these days but you, as a Program, are less likely to KEEP those that are left promoting you if you take longer to pay them.

Raising the minimum payouts after signing up is like snatching the football away when Charlie Brown is about to kick it. I am surprised Roald's company would set a check that high; wires I understand (tho the highest minimum I have seen was $500). But as long as an aff knows this going in it's ok, he can make the choice. But to expect a payout, then not get one, then to be told it's been raised tough titties....yeah, not good.

We have minimums set at $20 so all it takes is 1-2 sales and you get a check. Plus, you can combine sales from other Programs into a single check almost gaurunteeing a weekly payout. The best thing about CCBill. :)

Roald 05-19-2015 06:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XSAXS (Post 20478183)
Nope, not you Roald. :thumbsup

In that case send us your traffic ;)

Roald 05-19-2015 06:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mineistaken (Post 20478387)
Minimum is not much the point. When he signed it was a lower minimum, so if the sponsor decides to make it higher, affiliate is entitled to get paid what he is owed (reached under the previous minimum).

So point is shady tactics, not the high minimum itself :)

And NAME THEM FFS!

Yeah that's why I edited the post

Penny24Seven 05-19-2015 07:00 PM

1000 is fine if you know about it. That is how we do it. I don't waste my time with people who want me to do all the work for them and after 30 e-mails doing their job they put up one link on the bottom of a blog that sends 3 hits a week.

TheSquealer 05-19-2015 07:56 PM

So you've now directly threatened to cause irreparable harm to their business if you don't get compensated,... which is extortion AND then posted public proof of that fact as if you've done people a favor?

Great job brainiac.

You should hope you don't get sued. If their TOS says that they can change the minimum payouts at their discretion and you did agree to it (and even if it doesn't), then i'd hope you're not too stupid to fail to understand that this is not only actionable in civil court, but is also illegal.

I would guess that lemonade stands in the hood, would be one of the few places to find more immature, naive and ignorant people trying to conduct business than exist in this industry.

poncabare 05-19-2015 08:11 PM

Why did I just read two pages of nonsense

The Porn Nerd 05-19-2015 08:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by poncabare (Post 20478463)
Why did I just read two pages of nonsense

Cause it's Tuesday. Shrug.

MPGdevil 05-19-2015 09:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XSAXS (Post 20478194)
You're making a good point, sonofsam. And perhaps I am a bit selfish. Aren't we all?

But... in the process I am raising awareness and teaching these clowns not to pull shit like this in the future. Next time they'll think twice. The next guy probably won't hesitate to name them immediately.

Well, the clowns will probably learn that if they pay and keep types like you to shut up, they can keep up their scamming behaviors.

I could maybe understand if the $700 meant a lot to you, but sound like it doesn't. So why give a fuck and let other people for whom it's actually a big issue suffer?

BAKO 05-19-2015 10:37 PM

Just shoot me for reading this crap lol

Markul 05-19-2015 11:29 PM

wtf still no name? someone here should go to the doc and ask why the stones hasn't dropped.

AmeliaG 05-20-2015 12:10 AM

Yeah, what TeenCat, Shemp, and Markul said.


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