Originally Posted by mikesouth (Post 20489524)

Because I had no intention of wounding him. and I dont care if he was armed or not my warning was loud....he heard it...he continues through that door he is a threat.
I dont think of it as heroic or any such BS it just was what it was. Im glad it turned out how it did.

Originally Posted by baddog (Post 20489692)

You really watch too much TV. Have you ever been to a firing range? Were there silhouettes that included legs?



You so funny

Originally Posted by baddog (Post 20489661)

I have a feeling the average GFYer has no idea how long that really is without a clock to show them.

Of course, South, with his adrenaline rush probably had no concept of time either.

Originally Posted by JIBCONTENT (Post 20489702)

I'm glad things went that way and you are a pretty brave dude.

And yes you may have killed him, or you may have got a bullet or 2 into him while he charged you and got your gun away from you - this is actually the far more likely scenario statistically.

Thats the NRA's dirtiest little secret and the fact they try to suppress the hardest: Gun owners are far FAR more likely to be killed by an intruder who has taken their gun away from them than they are to successfully defend themselves.

Originally Posted by Zuzana Designs (Post 20489876)

I was an MP in the military and have been to a range 100's of times.

Originally Posted by Zuzana Designs (Post 20489876)

I was an MP in the military and have been to a range 100's of times.

Originally Posted by baddog (Post 20490050)

And they trained you to shoot for the legs?

Originally Posted by Zuzana Designs (Post 20490061)

I would rather not have the guilt of killing someone hang with me the rest of my life I guess. I was taught that you shot to stop the threat. When that fails aim for the head.

Originally Posted by baddog (Post 20490067)

Wow, head shots? The surprises the hell out of me. I kind of figured the chest would be a lot easier to hit under a stressful situation. And why would you have guilt about protecting yourself or someone else?

Originally Posted by Zuzana Designs (Post 20489667)

Glad nobody died and you're safe but why not just shoot him in the leg? When ever I hear someone got shot in the face I always think about dumb and dumber.

https://youtu.be/ofQ6i9I1IYY

Originally Posted by baddog (Post 20489692)

You really watch too much TV. Have you ever been to a firing range? Were there silhouettes that included legs?



You so funny

Originally Posted by Zuzana Designs (Post 20490079)

As I said if I was in that situation I would have a hard time knowing I killed someone. That's just me. I have never been in that situation and hope I never am. I'm sure it's different when you are.

So to clarify. I was not taught to shot someone in the leg. The torso is where you are taught to shot or the first thing you see in a threat. Whether it's a leg, hand etc...

Originally Posted by Colmike7 (Post 20490125)

So you're basically saying that the cops did their job and guns are for pussies?

Originally Posted by Zuzana Designs (Post 20490061)

I would rather not have the guilt of killing someone hang with me the rest of my life I guess. But that's just me. I was taught that you shot to stop the threat if they are unarmed. When that fails aim for the head.

Originally Posted by johnnyloadproductions (Post 20490207)

You forgot the :upsidedow


:):upsidedow:):upsidedow:):upsidedow:):upsidedow:) :upsidedow

Originally Posted by xXXtesy10 (Post 20490060)

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:thumbsup

Originally Posted by Zuzana Designs (Post 20489876)

I was an MP in the military and have been to a range 100's of times.

Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 20490118)

Originally Posted by kane (Post 20490386)

So the moral of this story is, "If I hadn't had my gun there and at the ready, this would have turned out exactly the same as it did."

Originally Posted by JIBCONTENT (Post 20490459)

Sounds like you really really wanted to kill someone. Like you have been craving it for a long time. Kinda like I imagine some cops must feel after years (or decades) on the force and never getting a chance to use their service weapon - they must be just DYING for a chance to blow someone away, dreaming about it at night.

If you were as calm as you claim, no raised heartbeat and blast of adrenaline as that door was being pounded in? Then you are a sociopath plain and simple. And the "headshot" thing just means you aren't familiar with standard firearms self defense training.

You see stories all the time about bullets passing through heads and the person doesnt even feel it let alone go down. Also a head is a hard target to hit.

As I said before the odds are vastly in the favor of that intruder taking a shot or two then getting to you and a wrestling match for the gun would ensue - having a gun there would far more likely get your lady friend killed than protect her. The NRA's dirty little secret.

Originally Posted by mikesouth (Post 20490494)

and you are a fucking moron....

Originally Posted by mikesouth (Post 20489984)

Rest assured I hit him with a .45 even if he is wearing a bullet proof vest it will completely knock him off his feet. I shoot at least weekly at the range I consider that a responsibility for having a concealed carry permit.

Originally Posted by Colmike7 (Post 20490525)

It seems like you're just using this to get in that poor girl's pants.. Use your penis, it works better than guns, sir. :upsidedow

Originally Posted by mikesouth (Post 20490493)

If thats your teachable moment so be it. To me the moral is that with one stroke of a pen I wouldnt have had the choice to take my destiny into my own hands, id have been left with no choice other than to be a victim if the cops werent there quickly....now imagine instead of a high traffic area we were in a rural area where the cops might not be so nearby...then what? Still think it would have turned out "exactly as it did"?

You wanna cower in a closet and wait for the good guys to come riding up be my guest, but don't attempt to take away my choice to defend myself.

Originally Posted by mikesouth (Post 20490493)

If thats your teachable moment so be it. To me the moral is that with one stroke of a pen I wouldnt have had the choice to take my destiny into my own hands, id have been left with no choice other than to be a victim if the cops werent there quickly....now imagine instead of a high traffic area we were in a rural area where the cops might not be so nearby...then what? Still think it would have turned out "exactly as it did"?

You wanna cower in a closet and wait for the good guys to come riding up be my guest, but don't attempt to take away my choice to defend myself.

Originally Posted by mikesouth (Post 20489984)

Three rules for me
1 treat every gun as if it is loaded
2 never point your gun at anything you do not intend to kill
3 once you point it never hesitate to pull the trigger

Originally Posted by JIBCONTENT (Post 20490511)

OK you are entitled to your opinion but the stats are very clear about home break-ins and the overwhelming odds are that by you having a gun you are running the very real risk that you could end up surrendering that gun to the robber.

You ever watch videos of people actually getting shot in altercations? Or have you just seen it in movies? A jacked up on adrenaline human being can take several bullets and still be very functional for a long time. This statement makes you seem as if you watch a lot of action flicks and think that bullets always knock people down:



Why would a .45 bullet knock him off his feet? It wouldn't. It would most likely pass right through and and not slow his forward momentum at all. You would have to get pretty lucky at that close range and hit his spine or heart to stop him in his tracks. The reality is that you most likely would have been in a struggle for possession of the gun, and if you lost that fight, well then you have a pissed off and possibly mortally wounded maniac who now has a gun in his hand. What do you suppose he's going to do with his last few seconds (or minutes) of his miserable life now that he has your gun? Mathematical odds would far favor that you just got Melissa killed.

Read up on it people - thousands of Americans die for each life that guns save - THOUSANDS. The whole "got my gun for protection" is a scam, a myth. Having a gun in the house means you are hundreds of times more likely to die of bullet holes, or your kids.

The Second Amendment is a dusty relic that needs to be taken out back and shot.

Originally Posted by JIBCONTENT (Post 20489702)

I'm glad things went that way and you are a pretty brave dude.

And yes you may have killed him, or you may have got a bullet or 2 into him while he charged you and got your gun away from you - this is actually the far more likely scenario statistically.

Thats the NRA's dirtiest little secret and the fact they try to suppress the hardest: Gun owners are far FAR more likely to be killed by an intruder who has taken their gun away from them than they are to successfully defend themselves.

Originally Posted by Jim_Gunn (Post 20490624)

These type of often quoted anti-gun rights aggregate statistics- even in the rare instances when they are true- are often irrelevant to an individual gun owner. For example, gun control people are quick to tell you that guns are often used in the home by family members in domestic disputes and that you are more likely to be shot with a gun by someone who lives in your own house than by a stranger or that your children are at risk for getting access to your gun and killing themselves or a sibling. But so what? I live by myself, scare mongering statistics like that don't apply to me and the loaded gun I keep within arms reach.

Originally Posted by Jim_Gunn (Post 20490624)

These type of often quoted anti-gun rights aggregate statistics- even in the rare instances when they are true- are often irrelevant to an individual gun owner. For example, gun control people are quick to tell you that guns are often used in the home by family members in domestic disputes and that you are more likely to be shot with a gun by someone who lives in your own house than by a stranger or that your children are at risk for getting access to your gun and killing themselves or a sibling. But so what? I live by myself, scare mongering statistics like that don't apply to me and the loaded gun I keep within arms reach.