As opposed to a pro-gun person making up some bullshit story?

"I controlled my gun" - how does anyone not see the insanity of that statement?

We got a real mangina here everyone

that's the amusing part for me here - i read all the time how the country I live in is considered "eastern europe" (with a negative slant), people here called "euro trash" and the overall impression is that here it would be dangerous and backwards.

probably the same people that think Eurotrip and Hostel are documentaries

at the same time no one here would ever even remotely get the idea that one needs a loaded gun in arms reach

and gun laws here are pretty liberal compared to the rest of europe:
Gun politics in the Czech Republic - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

still hardly anyone ever gets one

So I assume Czech people have a death wish and don't care about protecting their families

Sssshhh,they dont need to know that.Just let them have that illusion that central euro is a place with no laws and people riding horses.This helps to keep the stupid and uneducated out.:thumbsup

good point, sorry

In the United States, annual deaths resulting from firearms total:

2013: 33,636
2012: 33,563
2011: 32,351
2010: 31,672
2009: 31,347
2008: 31,593
2007: 31,224
2006: 30,896
2005: 30,694
2004: 29,569
2003: 30,136
2002: 30,242
2001: 29,573
2000: 28,663
1999: 28,874

HOLE E SHIT So we lose more people to guns in 24 months than we lost in all of the Vietnam War.

Gun Deaths now surpass even the car crash death toll.

Ok all you Scardy Cat Gun-Pussies afraid of your own shadow ask yourself this question: Of all that carnage how many of those killed do you think are bad guys taken out during the commission of a crime or assault annually? 50? 100? 500? And even that number is absurdly high only because the NRA's push to make guns accessible to any murder-nut that wants one no matter how deranged.

More than 30,000 deaths each year and just a handful of "good guys with a gun stopping bad guys with a gun" This wacko needs to be incarcerated:

http://media.salon.com/2012/12/wayne-lapierre.jpg

I say it's time to END the NRA

where are these very clear stats and overwhelming odds? they are not on the internet, are you hiding them somehwere?

those #s are insanely overinflated, by 3-4x. according to the agency that keeps track

FBI Expanded Homicide Data Table 8

http://i.imgur.com/Q0Rm1lz.jpg

Aw how cute, a first time search engine user :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Suicides by gun accounted for about six of every 10 firearm deaths in 2010 and just over half of all suicides, according to data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

Since the CDC began publishing data in 1981, gun suicides have outnumbered gun homicides. But as gun homicides have declined sharply in recent years, suicides have become a greater share of all firearm deaths: the 61% share in 2010 was the highest on record.

Suicides account for most gun deaths | Pew Research Center

ah, how cute, someone who's been asked a reasonable request for proof of stats chooses to make it personal and can't even provide an official documented proof.

im not surprised you are so confused here.

so again, since you're so clever here, where are these very clear and overwhelming stats you refer to?

regardless of how many times i've used a search engine.

THE agency that keeps track? So you cite numbers collected by a US Government agency? An agency the bulk of which are of NRA Gun Owners? The same Government that the NRA spends millions to lobby and contribute to the campaigns to get elected (or appoint)Pro-Gun officials? What a joke - also those numbers don't include accidents or suicides (no not all the people who shot themselves would have found another way to die)

I personally knew 4 people who would probably be alive today if there wasn't as easy gun within reach in the house (including Earl Millers teen son RIP)

I'm out of this thread, have fun with your guns chickenshits

so instead of easily backing up your comments with statistics, you impugn actual real statistics. :1orglaugh

and then you try and support your lack of information by exclaiming personal anecdotal tales and tall stories.

i'm not surprised you are leaving the thread.

mission accomplished.

sounds like living a life of paranoid fears that will probably never happen.

The internet has many studies that fully support the claims I made here. Yes the odds are overwhelmingly higher that you or a family member will die BECAUSE you are a gun owner as opposed to a non-gun family. Anyone with access to Google can find this info.

You are questioning MY use of stats and you make the entirely fictitious claim that the numbers I cited are overinflated by 3-4x and you conveniently FORGOT that those are ONLY Homicides and don't include accidents and suicide? I never said anything about Homicides, only gun deaths. Go back to school and learn some basic reading comprehension skills Dyna Mo. I'm out

oh, look who said he's out, but is back, and without even 1 single link corroborating his wild claims.

No, you just have so many "super hot woman that want the man to make hard sex in the ass" that the frustration and anger that leads to crime is dissipated. At least that is what they teach us in 'merica. :winkwink:

100 guys with no penis

or maybe it's because you get world class excellent beer for $1 for half a litre and that keeps the bad guys drunk enough to forget about any other nonsense :drinkup

Good, because we were about to open fire. A lesson in the knockdown power of a .45 would hopefully set you straight.

Now take your stats put em in your back pocket and see if they take the sting out of this barrel of salt this 410 is about to rock your ass with on your way out.

Yep. Beer and big natural boobs make the world go round...

Yeah, yet she still says "why not aim for the leg?" Total bullshit.

Wow, we discovered a new level of dumb.

awesome and killer Frank Zappa reference, Far-L!!

cranking volume now!

Will a 45acp go through a human body and through a wall after going through a door? Were they FMJ?

Yes, depends on the ammo and where the bullet hits the target. Mike South though is a hero because he "controlled his gun" and didn't fire a round through the door and into an occupied apartments or shoot at a person in a residential building where people live.

Yep, feeling pretty Frank myself...

The door was thin metal and hollow and most walls in the south are sheetrock so theoretically yes but the fact I kinda skipped was that I wasnt comfortable shooting and NOT knowing EXACTLY what I was shooting at...yes the thought crossed my mind but lots of sane reasons ruled it out quickly and btw they were jacketed hollow points.

JIBContent should stick to his day job because he clearly has no idea about guns or ballistics.
A .45 round (230 gr) at close range can literally lift a 200 lb man off his feet and knock him backwards.

As I noted before, Im no hero or any of that such stuff, I just did what I had to do in a crisis situation, you may have chosen to do differently and thats all good the teachable moment here, I think is how important it is to have that choice.

For the record had he breached the door and entered the apartment and I killed him, I would not have been charged with anything, per the lead cop. GA has very strong laws about using deadly force on someone forcibly gaining entry to your home.

In the end I could have killed him and felt zero remorse but Im glad it didn't come to that, my moral compass guided me perfectly and I hope the idiot gets the help he obviously needs, to say he has a screw loose is an understatement...he was carrying a large rock, when the cops asked why he said "I like to collect rocks" I am sure he intended to use that on Melissa, he was using his foot and body to try to break down the door.

You guys should remember too that this could be any one of you. i thought she was being needlessly paranoid, goes to show that you never know....

to the moron who thinks its made up fine, i could give a rats ass what you think, if you get something out of this, if it raises your awareness or whatever great thats why Im laying it all out, if you dont like it..move on theres about a hundred other threads on this page Im sure one or two of them will be of more interest.

Thanks for the support and good wishes...hope it never happens to any of you, but if it does and this in any way helps...well mission accomplished.

csb :pimp

Uhm... killing another human being and feeling zero remorse is called psychopathy.
It's also proof positive of having no moral compass whatsoever as killing another is the most serious moral issue anyone could face.
You're an attention seeking histrionic lunatic, at best.

I think a lot of people feel that they could kill someone without remorse if they were defending themselves. If they were ever in a place where they actually had to and did they might not feel the same after.

http://www.artribune.com/wp-content/...3/11/zappa.jpg

Frank Zappa is so wise.

Women can often send mixed signals that guys often misinterpret. However, in this case it appears clear that Melissa is interested in you, to the extent of asking you to spend the night. I'm sure that if you think back, you'll find some "ah ha!" moments where you weren't aware that she was sending you signals, but in retrospect she couldn't have been more clear.

Now instead of snubbing her, ask her out and see where it goes from there :)

for further guidance

YesSignals - Body language gestures women use to attract, flirt, pick up and sedcue men.

Melissa and I have been really good friends for years we have had "benefits" but these days she is more like family to me....I think she called me because she knows Im sane and I have a carry permit.

I was not aware that there were anti-gun people in the adult industry, but I guess Cali and the anti gun BS has reached even this industry. They have ruined Chicago, and NY, causing guns to be a must have. But illegal to have. The only gun owners now, in those localities are the criminals.

That's cool.

You're a fucking idiot. If you hit somebody with a .45 hollow point, they are down, that's it. He would absorb 600 ft/lbs of energy, no matter if it were his torso, head, leg, whatever. Any modern projectile spreads on impact, it doesn't pass through, especially projectiles designed for home defense in the .45 caliber. If somebody was trying to break in your house and you heard it, long before he got in, you're saying you would rather NOT have a gun than to have one?? LOL. Give me your address... There are HUNDREDS of videos on Youtube of armed citizens that kill or take down armed robbers. I've never seen a video where a criminal is shot "multiple times" and then keeps going forward, takes the innocent person's gun and shoots them with it. But you say the "overwhelming odds" that this is what happens when any innocent person grabs their gun during a break-in. Show me the videos of the "thousands" of armed citizens that have their guns taken from them by criminals and used against them.. Acutally, just show me 1... LOL I'll show you 100 of the opposite.

I've been on this board for 16 years and have NEVER chimed in to a non-pornbiz converstation, but I just had to on this one.

You say if you have a gun in your house your "hundreds" times more likely to die. Well 40% of Americans have guns in their house. So how can it be "hundreds" times more likely to die? Every household with a gun would be dead dozens times over according to that statement. Don't post lies, it's fucking gross. We get it, you don't like guns.. That's great... Guns have saved my life more than once and I don't feel the need to go around posting lies of how good they are. I honestly don't care who has them and who doesn't. I just know if you come near me or my family with bad intentions with anything less than an army, you're going to be killed. You've obviously never had death threats and don't have much to protect...