OMG your making sooooooo mutch money:thumbsup :thumbsup
Listen and learn sleazy :thumbsup

I think you lie because the shitiest trade script around costs more than 150$. Plus you 'd need design and hosting.

You're right - I should have cut him some slack but after following this guy's history on another board and then watching his carry on here on GFY I found it a bit hard not to go into knee jerk mode.

Are you brain damaged? I wasn't bragging or teaching any lessons. I haven't had either of those TGPs for three years, now. I was pointing out flaws in the poster's numbers. Grow up.

SpaceAce

:glugglug

ok

Ive made/submitted a gallery, made/submitted 2 free sites and 2 avs, tracked 2 cheaters on my TGP and added 4 new trades ...


time to answer some of these coments since i see a new 1.5 pages since i last looked.



bare with me here ...

if im reading this right, you are correct in a sense.

I have applied alot of issues i have experienced myself to this "guide" but to get to the end result of "300k"i simply multiplied the results while "dreaming" i had the cash to fund the project.

I dont understand "you went downhill ..."

At what point did i go downhill? Trust me, im low enough ... can only go up buddy!

very true. I regret posting it not only because of that reason, but mostly because alot of the people reading it are a bunch of dumbasses.

It seems alot of these experienced guys i had pegged for "guru's" in their field have and demonstrate very newbie mentalities.

sad but true

jesus

I was going to write the same thing almost ot the "T"!!!

Damn thanks man, appreciate the support.

You think not eh?

What would you say if i told you i must have gotten maybe 50 people ICQ'ing me asking for more details?

Im a fucking idiot because i didnt post a resources section on bottom of post with my ref codes, or worked something out with choker, lol (not that he would have, lol)

[QUOTE]Originally posted by sinfulone
[B]
If the offer has not yet been satisfied by another webmaster id be more than happy to discuss details.

Fine offer on the table and appreciate the confidence

:1orglaugh

STFU DUDE!!!

That was going to be my next newbie guide!!!!

BTW that one will have a resource page with ref links, lol and i will add "BOLD" tags to my disclaimer .... see? I learn from mistakes!!!

When did i ever say i know it all? Or have stopped learning or wanting to learn?

My attitude is all messed up eh?

I think your a fucking monkey that follows suit on BBS boards how about that attitude for ya?

Lets see what you have stated ...

Im broke + beg for banners + leave GFY + call all these dumbasses morons + one logical helpful post = im a fucking idiot newbie who has a shitty attitude and doesnt deserve someones opinion to be in my favor

hmmm

yep, im the one here with a bad attitude ..... your right


fucking monkey, AaronM and quiet said the sky is blue ... you agree dont you?

what makes you think every newbie in the world wont try this?

I have experienced, seasoned webmasters hitting up my ICQ for help now ... i always tell them im a fucking newbie, but fact still remains .... i got the wheels spinning.

Yes i blew $6k on an idea, and it failed because i didnt realize how hard it was to get targetted traffic to a merchant site. Just 3 days ago someone you know VERY well complimented my design and idea, said with the right marketting my dream would become reality.

Looking at http://www.pleasuredvds.com can you honestly say it doesnt have potential?

i just wrote a long ass post, then deleted it all to say 2 words to you ....

fucking jackass

notjoe,

Your actually right on the money ... it takes ALOT of webmaster networking to make this idea work.

For one thing, sure theres a few huge TGP's that will trade with newbies, but you need alot more than a few.

notice i said the purchased amount of 300k should avg out to about 150k self generated?

I may be new, but what little experience i have is in the TGP world, and this logic will hold providing you dont get completely raped on the traffic, and buying from choker i know you wont.

shit, sorry didnt see someone else said this first, lol


thanks again notjoe

my honest opinion? You havent examined the details of the plan. Had you looked at it thoroghly youd notice that yes i may be off as far as the numbers, but not FAR off .... i dont care what anyone says, the logic will hold given the right resources.

Im not saying it is fool proof as someone falsly quoted me, im just saying the logic is there .... i dont care what trades you add, what traffic you buy or what your site looks like .... buy 300k traffic and send it through a script, you WILL avg out alot higher than what you started .... basic trading knowledge will show you this.

again i accounted for this .... notice i recomended a niche tgp and deterred a general one?

Notice i said how many trades to add, and how to find them?

Using that method it wont be hard to have atleast 15 strong ass trades feeding each other.

:2 cents:

ahh shit, so THATS why i have 3 pages of replies, lol .... seems i brought out the bigdogs.

choker regardless of our history, as little as it may be ... i think you have a good system and have counted on your traffic a number of times and will continue to do so.

Thanks for the reply.

sorry dude ... its obvious you dont trade much?

I have some trades at 400% productivity, and returning to MOST of my trades at a steady 130%+

Are you a fucking idiot?

he said he was making $900 on a 75k TGP ...


now he makes 5 more just like it using the same methods, he has 375k hits to play with, AND he is making $4500 CLEAN cash per month ..... and you can knock that???


fucking monkey, stop asking how high

DJ wtf?

I have UCJ and TTT running on different sites, id recomend TTT over ANY script ive used so far ... ANY OF THEM!!!!

and it is 100% free! (minus the small but fare skim)

Ok im done ....


flame away

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Ok, you were right, you hit bottom and now that you cant go any lower, you're actually getting back up. I liked those last posts, it showed self respect, unlike some of the previous threads.

If you have 50 webmasters asking for details, that doesnt mean your plan will work, it just means they want to know more. Even if they try it, it means nothing if cant make it work. I asked if you believe 10000s of webmasters own 200k TGPs, not if 10000s are trying to get there. If your guide is called "guide to get a long shot at a 200k TGP" I'm all for it. But you must realize that most newbies (and a lot of veterans) have tried it, will try it, and wont achieve the objectives. Just look at how many small and medium TGPs are out there. They all want to be BIG , and they're all aware of plans simillar to your plan. But it's hard, and the secret to really pull it off is... fuck, I dont know, and if I did I wouldnt post it!

Keeping a big TGP up there is something that a lot of webmasters can do. Building a new one and finding a spot at the top is something you dont see often. There are only so many surfers, if you want to be big, you have to take someone else's place. You can't do that in 11 simple steps.

And dont call me a monkey :321GFY

hmmmm


could it be???????

could ALL the idiot wannabe boardwhores have nothing to say?

Or maybe they dont wanna look like fucking jackass monkeys when their dopey ass comment gets a logical rebuttal?


For all you dopey ass newbies with big mouths, atleast im fucking honest guys ... when im having a bad month everyone knows it ... when im doing good they all know it AND they know the how/why. Might not be wise on my part, but again ... atleast im always honest.

Keep trying to flame people to make yourself look better. Keep talking shit to people. One day your going to need something from one of us "newbies that have no fucking brain"

and incase none of the 4k+ posters on this fucked up board you so envy have never used the word rebuttal, here is an exact definition for you to reference in the future.


Rebuttal - \Re*but"tal\
The giving of evidence on the part of a plaintiff to destroy the effect of evidence introduced by the defendant in the same suit.

the act of refuting by offering a contrary contention or argument


"ok how high should i jump?"

by no means is it easy. This plan requires alot of time adding new trades, alot of time examining their behavior, and alot of time deleting cheaters.

Another good thing is, for atleast a week or so you will be on many many toplist on the top spot ... with this position you know what kind of productive hits you will get? You know how many other webmasters of big TGP's will see this and want to trade with you?

Going out on a limb here (agian) but i bet within a weeks time, you have several webmasters tracking you down looking for a trade.

monkey monkey monkey!!!







lol j/k
:thumbsup

you forgot me.

ok your a fucking monkey also!!!






























lol j/k man ..... thats for the reply back there, means alot to see some people see the effort in writing this, as well as the thought of sharing it with others who may want the ideas.

:thumbsup

your hungry?


:1orglaugh

I'm a great believer in the philosophy of only heeding advice from the people who have proven themselves successful in the field that I'm receiving advice about. And since lil2rich4u2 has not had any personal success building high-traffic TGPs, or building a profitable adult business period, I think that it's appropriate to view his advice with extreme skepticism.

But what about some constructive criticism? If he's got it all wrong, what's the correct strategy? I see a lot of people questioning lil2rich4u2's credibility (with some justification), but I don't see many specific criticisms of his theory and I don't see much advice about *proven* strategies for launching a high-traffic TGP from scratch.

Apparently TGP traffic-trading is a very esoteric art, so wouldn't everyone benefit from some knowledge exchange? It seems to me that most people are more interested in talking politics and trading insults than they are in exchanging information which might help them to grow their businesses. Do any of you TGP gurus have something constructive to contribute? Or are you all too busy guarding your secrets from the newbs?

hehe... hahahaha... heh.

Groove, like I said, if I had the secret, I would keep it to myself and build all the TGPs I could handle.
But I dont think there is a "secret plan", the top TGPs have been there for years. I dont believe in any "2 week TGP success plan", yet I am trying hard to find it myself :Graucho

What you say is true and respectable.

I also view my own "guide" with skepticism since as you said i have not tried it yet to its full extent.

I do have very extensive experience in the entire TGP world, and this theory holds to the button on smaller numbers .... as i cannot afford to purchase the large amounts of traffic to test this theory at this time.

Yes they are too busy throwing insults, or making completely worthless threads about some car accident, or some brand of cigarettes or whatever other nonsense goes on here, but thats also respectable as this is as much a "casual" hangout as it is a webmasters resource.

The people readong this board WILL NOT, ill say it again ... WILL FUCKING NOT say this theory makes complete logical sense, as they WILL NOT shed light on what is wrong with it, as they WILL NOT share their own "tested" theories as it would extremely hurt their business and personal profits (or so they think). That again is respectable to a point, but i think it is way out of control ...


Another surprise i found.

One of the BIG names on this board msg me yesterday out of nowhere. he offered to give me some advice and i naturally jumped on it.

After seeing his stats, and seeing the way he promotes a certain sponsor, you would be absolutely in shock!

You would look at his page and think 2 things, 1 that a 12yr old made it and 2 that he makes no money whatsoever.

His name, sources and styles are safe with me only because he requested it to be so. Had i stubmled upon this on my own, i would gladly share as i have for many other finds in the past.


Thanks for the inteligent reply, its about fucking time someone had some balls and stopped linking ass on this board.

I too doubt that there's any secret plan to be had, not a simple one anyway :) I suspect that it's more about doing a whole bunch of little things well and refining your strategy over time.

My point is that so few of the criticisms that appear in this thread and other GFY threads are constructive. Doesn't anyone have anything constructive to contribute?

how do you know?


BTW who woke you up? lol

Yes it takes a lot of little things to make money, and it takes alot of years to make a PRODUCTIVE (in the aspect of conversions) TGP.

However if all you want is hits, that is where my theory comes true.

And with 100k-300k hits, even if 80% of them are complete leechers, or complete bulshit hits ... even with a simple per-click program as i mentioned with AP, as little as $1k-$3k is greatly possible.

To make $1k-$3k PER TGP, is not bad at all ... now do that again, then again and once more, you now have $6k-$12k per month doing nothing but monitoring trades, cheaters, and shopping for new trades .... tough life? lol

see? Thats why he is sooo respected on this board. All those contructive replies!

Dang quiet, where do you get the knowledge??

Teach me my lord

rich...please contact me. gracias.

!CQ 278.138.509

lil2rich4u2, I think juicylinks likes you! :winkwink:

no one is required to teach you FUCK ALL. you're just entertainment - a dancing monkey. you can't even manage to stay off this message board, less than a week after announcing your departure. that's backbone.

i want to see the huns comments on this theory :winkwink:

Better watch out quiet. I see him running after you now, he's coming after you!

You should listen to this guy, I'm sure he can teach you a thing or two.