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lil2rich4u2 03-18-2003 03:59 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by playa
way more factors involved, before anyone purchase traffic for thier site it is very important that they get a good base of trades and have the productivity/layout down

key to getting better productivity is choosing the correct trades with similar layouts and traffic,


again i accounted for this .... notice i recomended a niche tgp and deterred a general one?

Notice i said how many trades to add, and how to find them?

Using that method it wont be hard to have atleast 15 strong ass trades feeding each other.

:2 cents:

lil2rich4u2 03-18-2003 04:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Choker


Dude what are you talking about? I sell uniques not raws. The traffic I sell to TGP's is some of the most productive traffic around. I am selling/sending over 700k tgp hits a day. How many complaints have you seen about the quality of this traffic? I work very hard to make the quality of this traffic very high. Even one of my strongest critics (Pipecrew) admitted it was good shit. Per click per dollar cost I guarantee this traffic is better than any other paid source of traffic on the net. Any other traffic broker that wants to challenge me on this can put up $1000 and I will put up $1000. Winner takes all.

As far as the business plan this thread is about, he is pretty close to being accurate, except 300k is probably too much, 100k should be enough. But before you buy traffic test your TGP out and get the best return to trades set up first. As long as you return is over 125% your site will grow.


ahh shit, so THATS why i have 3 pages of replies, lol .... seems i brought out the bigdogs.

choker regardless of our history, as little as it may be ... i think you have a good system and have counted on your traffic a number of times and will continue to do so.

Thanks for the reply.

lil2rich4u2 03-18-2003 04:05 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by NineNine


... as long as your TGP doesn't suck.
Another thing... where is this extra 25% coming from? How can traders send more than they receive all the time? Where are these mysterious surfers coming from?

sorry dude ... its obvious you dont trade much?

I have some trades at 400% productivity, and returning to MOST of my trades at a steady 130%+

lil2rich4u2 03-18-2003 04:08 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by strobi


OMG your making sooooooo mutch money:thumbsup :thumbsup
Listen and learn sleazy :thumbsup


Are you a fucking idiot?

he said he was making $900 on a 75k TGP ...


now he makes 5 more just like it using the same methods, he has 375k hits to play with, AND he is making $4500 CLEAN cash per month ..... and you can knock that???


fucking monkey, stop asking how high

lil2rich4u2 03-18-2003 04:09 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by DarkJedi


I think you lie because the shitiest trade script around costs more than 150$. Plus you 'd need design and hosting.


DJ wtf?

I have UCJ and TTT running on different sites, id recomend TTT over ANY script ive used so far ... ANY OF THEM!!!!

and it is 100% free! (minus the small but fare skim)

lil2rich4u2 03-18-2003 04:11 PM

Ok im done ....


flame away

Morgan 03-18-2003 04:22 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by cutetwink
With a good design you should only need like 10-20k MAX to get up to 100k in no time...
:1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Tuga 03-18-2003 04:34 PM

Ok, you were right, you hit bottom and now that you cant go any lower, you're actually getting back up. I liked those last posts, it showed self respect, unlike some of the previous threads.

If you have 50 webmasters asking for details, that doesnt mean your plan will work, it just means they want to know more. Even if they try it, it means nothing if cant make it work. I asked if you believe 10000s of webmasters own 200k TGPs, not if 10000s are trying to get there. If your guide is called "guide to get a long shot at a 200k TGP" I'm all for it. But you must realize that most newbies (and a lot of veterans) have tried it, will try it, and wont achieve the objectives. Just look at how many small and medium TGPs are out there. They all want to be BIG , and they're all aware of plans simillar to your plan. But it's hard, and the secret to really pull it off is... fuck, I dont know, and if I did I wouldnt post it!

Keeping a big TGP up there is something that a lot of webmasters can do. Building a new one and finding a spot at the top is something you dont see often. There are only so many surfers, if you want to be big, you have to take someone else's place. You can't do that in 11 simple steps.

Tuga 03-18-2003 04:35 PM

And dont call me a monkey :321GFY

lil2rich4u2 03-18-2003 04:36 PM

hmmmm


could it be???????

could ALL the idiot wannabe boardwhores have nothing to say?

Or maybe they dont wanna look like fucking jackass monkeys when their dopey ass comment gets a logical rebuttal?


For all you dopey ass newbies with big mouths, atleast im fucking honest guys ... when im having a bad month everyone knows it ... when im doing good they all know it AND they know the how/why. Might not be wise on my part, but again ... atleast im always honest.

Keep trying to flame people to make yourself look better. Keep talking shit to people. One day your going to need something from one of us "newbies that have no fucking brain"

and incase none of the 4k+ posters on this fucked up board you so envy have never used the word rebuttal, here is an exact definition for you to reference in the future.


Rebuttal - \Re*but"tal\
The giving of evidence on the part of a plaintiff to destroy the effect of evidence introduced by the defendant in the same suit.

the act of refuting by offering a contrary contention or argument


"ok how high should i jump?"

lil2rich4u2 03-18-2003 04:44 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Tuga
Ok, you were right, you hit bottom and now that you cant go any lower, you're actually getting back up. I liked those last posts, it showed self respect, unlike some of the previous threads.

If you have 50 webmasters asking for details, that doesnt mean your plan will work, it just means they want to know more. Even if they try it, it means nothing if cant make it work. I asked if you believe 10000s of webmasters own 200k TGPs, not if 10000s are trying to get there. If your guide is called "guide to get a long shot at a 200k TGP" I'm all for it. But you must realize that most newbies (and a lot of veterans) have tried it, will try it, and wont achieve the objectives. Just look at how many small and medium TGPs are out there. They all want to be BIG , and they're all aware of plans simillar to your plan. But it's hard, and the secret to really pull it off is... fuck, I dont know, and if I did I wouldnt post it!

Keeping a big TGP up there is something that a lot of webmasters can do. Building a new one and finding a spot at the top is something you dont see often. There are only so many surfers, if you want to be big, you have to take someone else's place. You can't do that in 11 simple steps.

by no means is it easy. This plan requires alot of time adding new trades, alot of time examining their behavior, and alot of time deleting cheaters.

Another good thing is, for atleast a week or so you will be on many many toplist on the top spot ... with this position you know what kind of productive hits you will get? You know how many other webmasters of big TGP's will see this and want to trade with you?

Going out on a limb here (agian) but i bet within a weeks time, you have several webmasters tracking you down looking for a trade.

lil2rich4u2 03-18-2003 04:45 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Tuga
And dont call me a monkey :321GFY

monkey monkey monkey!!!







lol j/k
:thumbsup

hybrid 03-18-2003 04:50 PM

you forgot me.

lil2rich4u2 03-18-2003 04:55 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by hybrid
you forgot me.

ok your a fucking monkey also!!!






























lol j/k man ..... thats for the reply back there, means alot to see some people see the effort in writing this, as well as the thought of sharing it with others who may want the ideas.

:thumbsup

lil2rich4u2 03-18-2003 05:24 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Snazzy
c'mon guys help out a starving webmaster!

your hungry?


:1orglaugh

Groove 03-18-2003 06:06 PM

I'm a great believer in the philosophy of only heeding advice from the people who have proven themselves successful in the field that I'm receiving advice about. And since lil2rich4u2 has not had any personal success building high-traffic TGPs, or building a profitable adult business period, I think that it's appropriate to view his advice with extreme skepticism.

But what about some constructive criticism? If he's got it all wrong, what's the correct strategy? I see a lot of people questioning lil2rich4u2's credibility (with some justification), but I don't see many specific criticisms of his theory and I don't see much advice about *proven* strategies for launching a high-traffic TGP from scratch.

Apparently TGP traffic-trading is a very esoteric art, so wouldn't everyone benefit from some knowledge exchange? It seems to me that most people are more interested in talking politics and trading insults than they are in exchanging information which might help them to grow their businesses. Do any of you TGP gurus have something constructive to contribute? Or are you all too busy guarding your secrets from the newbs?

quiet 03-18-2003 06:10 PM

hehe... hahahaha... heh.

Juicy D. Links 03-18-2003 06:12 PM

FO SCHNIZZZZZZZLE DA BIZZLE ON THE QT TIP U HEARD?

Tuga 03-18-2003 06:13 PM

Groove, like I said, if I had the secret, I would keep it to myself and build all the TGPs I could handle.
But I dont think there is a "secret plan", the top TGPs have been there for years. I dont believe in any "2 week TGP success plan", yet I am trying hard to find it myself :Graucho

lil2rich4u2 03-18-2003 06:18 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Groove
I'm a great believer in the philosophy of only heeding advice from the people who have proven themselves successful in the field that I'm receiving advice about. And since lil2rich4u2 has not had any personal success building high-traffic TGPs, or building a profitable adult business period, I think that it's appropriate to view his advice with extreme skepticism.

But what about some constructive criticism? If he's got it all wrong, what's the correct strategy? I see a lot of people questioning lil2rich4u2's credibility (with some justification), but I don't see many specific criticisms of his theory and I don't see much advice about *proven* strategies for launching a high-traffic TGP from scratch.

Apparently TGP traffic-trading is a very esoteric art, so wouldn't everyone benefit from some knowledge exchange? It seems to me that most people are more interested in talking politics and trading insults than they are in exchanging information which might help them to grow their businesses. Do any of you TGP gurus have something constructive to contribute? Or are you all too busy guarding your secrets from the newbs?


What you say is true and respectable.

I also view my own "guide" with skepticism since as you said i have not tried it yet to its full extent.

I do have very extensive experience in the entire TGP world, and this theory holds to the button on smaller numbers .... as i cannot afford to purchase the large amounts of traffic to test this theory at this time.

Yes they are too busy throwing insults, or making completely worthless threads about some car accident, or some brand of cigarettes or whatever other nonsense goes on here, but thats also respectable as this is as much a "casual" hangout as it is a webmasters resource.

The people readong this board WILL NOT, ill say it again ... WILL FUCKING NOT say this theory makes complete logical sense, as they WILL NOT shed light on what is wrong with it, as they WILL NOT share their own "tested" theories as it would extremely hurt their business and personal profits (or so they think). That again is respectable to a point, but i think it is way out of control ...


Another surprise i found.

One of the BIG names on this board msg me yesterday out of nowhere. he offered to give me some advice and i naturally jumped on it.

After seeing his stats, and seeing the way he promotes a certain sponsor, you would be absolutely in shock!

You would look at his page and think 2 things, 1 that a 12yr old made it and 2 that he makes no money whatsoever.

His name, sources and styles are safe with me only because he requested it to be so. Had i stubmled upon this on my own, i would gladly share as i have for many other finds in the past.


Thanks for the inteligent reply, its about fucking time someone had some balls and stopped linking ass on this board.

Juicy D. Links 03-18-2003 06:19 PM

MY COCK IS SO HARD RIGHT NOW

Groove 03-18-2003 06:20 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Tuga
Groove, like I said, if I had the secret, I would keep it to myself and build all the TGPs I could handle.
But I dont think there is a "secret plan", the top TGPs have been there for years. I dont believe in any "2 week TGP success plan", yet I am trying hard to find it myself :Graucho

I too doubt that there's any secret plan to be had, not a simple one anyway :) I suspect that it's more about doing a whole bunch of little things well and refining your strategy over time.

My point is that so few of the criticisms that appear in this thread and other GFY threads are constructive. Doesn't anyone have anything constructive to contribute?

lil2rich4u2 03-18-2003 06:20 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by juicylinks
MY COCK IS SO HARD RIGHT NOW

how do you know?


BTW who woke you up? lol

lil2rich4u2 03-18-2003 06:24 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Groove


I too doubt that there's any secret plan to be had, not a simple one anyway :) I suspect that it's more about doing a whole bunch of little things well and refining your strategy over time.


Yes it takes a lot of little things to make money, and it takes alot of years to make a PRODUCTIVE (in the aspect of conversions) TGP.

However if all you want is hits, that is where my theory comes true.

And with 100k-300k hits, even if 80% of them are complete leechers, or complete bulshit hits ... even with a simple per-click program as i mentioned with AP, as little as $1k-$3k is greatly possible.

To make $1k-$3k PER TGP, is not bad at all ... now do that again, then again and once more, you now have $6k-$12k per month doing nothing but monitoring trades, cheaters, and shopping for new trades .... tough life? lol

lil2rich4u2 03-18-2003 06:25 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by quiet
hehe... hahahaha... heh.

see? Thats why he is sooo respected on this board. All those contructive replies!

Dang quiet, where do you get the knowledge??

Teach me my lord

candyflip 03-18-2003 06:27 PM

rich...please contact me. gracias.

!CQ 278.138.509

Groove 03-18-2003 06:29 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by juicylinks
MY COCK IS SO HARD RIGHT NOW
lil2rich4u2, I think juicylinks likes you! :winkwink:

quiet 03-18-2003 06:35 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by lil2rich4u2



see? Thats why he is sooo respected on this board. All those contructive replies!

Dang quiet, where do you get the knowledge??

Teach me my lord

no one is required to teach you FUCK ALL. you're just entertainment - a dancing monkey. you can't even manage to stay off this message board, less than a week after announcing your departure. that's backbone.

xdcdave 03-18-2003 07:03 PM

i want to see the huns comments on this theory :winkwink:

Sly_RJ 03-18-2003 07:09 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by quiet


no one is required to teach you FUCK ALL. you're just entertainment - a dancing monkey. you can't even manage to stay off this message board, less than a week after announcing your departure. that's backbone.

Better watch out quiet. I see him running after you now, he's coming after you!

You should listen to this guy, I'm sure he can teach you a thing or two.

candyflip 03-18-2003 07:12 PM

150?

hybrid 03-18-2003 07:12 PM

Quote:

Better watch out quiet. I see him running after you now, he's coming after you!

You should listen to this guy, I'm sure he can teach you a thing or two.
Idon't know, man, lilrich seems like one of those cats that'll do some crazy psycho shit like sneak up on you when you're sleeping and try to shove a duck up your ass.

Beware the "Quack"!

Sly_RJ 03-18-2003 07:18 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by hybrid
Idon't know, man, lilrich seems like one of those cats that'll do some crazy psycho shit like sneak up on you when you're sleeping and try to shove a duck up your ass.

Beware the "Quack"!

My brother did that to me once. Crazy fucker. I couldn't shit for a week. Oh the pain!

NineNine 03-18-2003 07:30 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Groove
I'm a great believer in the philosophy of only heeding advice from the people who have proven themselves successful in the field that I'm receiving advice about. And since lil2rich4u2 has not had any personal success building high-traffic TGPs, or building a profitable adult business period, I think that it's appropriate to view his advice with extreme skepticism.

But what about some constructive criticism? If he's got it all wrong, what's the correct strategy? I see a lot of people questioning lil2rich4u2's credibility (with some justification), but I don't see many specific criticisms of his theory and I don't see much advice about *proven* strategies for launching a high-traffic TGP from scratch.

Apparently TGP traffic-trading is a very esoteric art, so wouldn't everyone benefit from some knowledge exchange? It seems to me that most people are more interested in talking politics and trading insults than they are in exchanging information which might help them to grow their businesses. Do any of you TGP gurus have something constructive to contribute? Or are you all too busy guarding your secrets from the newbs?

I agree... and to kick off a reasonable discussion, I'm in the midst if trying to figure out if a long term strategy of running a TGP is more benefitted by forcing blind links to link trades, and pissing off surfers in the process, or playing it straight, and letting the surfers click on visible link trades themselves, in the hope that they return, provide steady traffic, and eventually convert. I've flipped-flopped on this countless times, and I still haven't figured out which method is better in the long run.

lil2rich4u2 03-18-2003 08:21 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by NineNine


I agree... and to kick off a reasonable discussion, I'm in the midst if trying to figure out if a long term strategy of running a TGP is more benefitted by forcing blind links to link trades, and pissing off surfers in the process, or playing it straight, and letting the surfers click on visible link trades themselves, in the hope that they return, provide steady traffic, and eventually convert. I've flipped-flopped on this countless times, and I still haven't figured out which method is better in the long run.


you know how i feel about that, lol

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lil2rich4u2 03-18-2003 08:33 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by quiet


no one is required to teach you FUCK ALL. you're just entertainment - a dancing monkey. you can't even manage to stay off this message board, less than a week after announcing your departure. that's backbone.


hey you ego driven dipshit ...

i started this thread to help others, not be helped!!!

Before you run your fucking mouth thinking everyone here is going to bow to the post-master, just remember theres always going to be me sticking your stupid ass remarks right up your stupid old ass.

BTW, thanks for actually using words this time instead of just laughing

quiet 03-18-2003 08:38 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by lil2rich4u2



hey you ego driven dipshit ...

i started this thread to help others, not be helped!!!

Before you run your fucking mouth thinking everyone here is going to bow to the post-master, just remember theres always going to be me sticking your stupid ass remarks right up your stupid old ass.

BTW, thanks for actually using words this time instead of just laughing

my god... in addition to being a complete and utter failure, you're a fucking idiot as well. my post was in reply to this one:

Quote:

Originally posted by lil2rich4u2
Dang quiet, where do you get the knowledge??

Teach me my lord
i can't imagine how it must feel to be a failure. when are you going to be evicted? be sure to keep us posted.

:glugglug

freeadultcontent 03-18-2003 08:44 PM

Shit I read all that :glugglug

I am not sure if it would work or not, I do think you would at least end up with a ok sized TGP at the end of the day and will make your money back for hosting and the traffic at least. If one can not do that they are either retarded or couldnt sell water to a dehyrdrated guy stuck in the desert with a wad of cash.

I do not think you would sell banner spaces as easily as you guessed. People want to see sustained traffic over a long period of time, not an instant burst and no history.

I also appreciate there has been no begging or plea's for cash from him. Yeah he said he was leaving and came right back, but shit who cares. I would also like to point out that he paid me money owed despite is finacial doom, and he did not even ask for extra time or sympathy for his condition. That alone puts him a lil higher on the ladder than several people I know.

lil2rich4u2 03-18-2003 08:44 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by quiet


i can't imagine how it must feel to be a failure. when are you going to be evicted? be sure to keep us posted.

:glugglug


im sorry bud, but if your goal is to put me down, to insult me, humiliate me ... gonna have to mention faliure just one more time.


You fucking half witt, dont you see i dont hide my lack of success?

Do you really think it bothers me wtf you think or say about it?

jeez, lol go post somemore, youll get more respect the higher your post count gets.


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