It depends on a LOT of things. Primarily, the size of he pages you're sending. Also, if you have things running in the background that say, spider and check galleries to weed out the shit, that's gonna eat up the BW too. Also, you're not even considering the number of pages that each user views. If you're pumping out your blind link trading like you're talking about, that's a page or two a person before they get pissed off or are clicking somewher else. Or, you could be nice, and they end up viewing 20 pages each on average. # of uniques alone doesn't say much at all about amount of BW that you use.

But using the said "formula to success" all i have is a 100kb page with a trade script.

Since we established scripts are server side, we can do our math based on hits by kb (im assuming)


Id really like someone to correct my math, and/or process of coming up with $5k per month estimated bandwidth charges .... because that puts a bad scare into me.


Anyone?

The "key" to what I'm saying is that you said "long term".
The PK's etc. success had a bit to do with timing - being there "then". But it can still be done, it's just going to take longer than it did in the late 90's. I think "sticking to" doing things right is one thing those people will tell you has kept them on top.

And you're right - what a fucked up thread for this to be in....

No way. Can't be more thank 300k/visitor TOPS and that would be:

300kb x 300,000 = 90,000,000kb = 90gigs/day x $0.59 = $53.10/day x 31 days = $1593.00

actually I wne tback and read this - No this is not correct LOL

You fucked up by a zero - 100,000 hits x 100k = 10gigs not 100

So accoridng to this it would be $531

Bottom line - don't worry about b/w unless you are sevring movies.

damnit, how the hell did i miss a zero, lol


can you beleive im a financial planner for wells fargo? LOL!!!

(currently on leave due to no car, lol)

i never sever my movies!!!

... in fact don't wory about starting a tgp until you can make $5,000/mth as a submitter.

This goes for all noobs.

Muad'Dib has declared this a new adult webmaster noob law.

Disobey and you will be cut off from the spice.

if you pay $0.59 per gig your not even a webmaster....

Your a sufer who wishes he was a webmaster.

you're a financial planner for wells fargo - are close to eviction, and can't pay your bills? interesting...

You make millions of dollars, have over 8,000 posts and you are "quiet"?

Quite the contrary. :1orglaugh

do you know how i picked up the nick? no. i'm going to invest those millions with wells fargo.

What a fucked up world we live in....

Maybe you're the one who's not cut out for this biz. lil2rich4u2, perseverance is one of the main keys in any business.

once again, super productive post, but hey! your post count went up!


all bow to wise ass quiet

::::on knee's bowing slowly::::

No, I don't know perhaps you are shy in real life?

Yeah Wells Fargo is awesome - get lilrich as your broker :)

Don't you just love jackoff's/brokers/money managers that work for banks and recommend stocks etc. - yet they drive their Hyundai to work and are telling you were to invest your money.

fucking biatches with their glossy commercials so you can get a 25 year old punk who doesn't have shit or know shit but is ready to invest your hard earned dollars.

Forget that shit. I have converted all of my hard currency into spice. It is the best bet I think.

i just pulled a random host to see the price ...

BullHosting

Plan 1:
50gig for $49 ($3 overage i think)

plan 2:
100gig for $99 ($3 overage i think)

plan 3:
600gig for $299 ($3 overage i think)

plan 4:
1200gig for $575 ($3 overage i think)



So to become a REAL webmaster like you, id need to go for the 1200gig plan just to get below $0.59 per gig, right?

Anything else leaves me as a wannabe i take it?

Those numbers also depend on what kind of hosting... virtual, dedicated, or co-lo.

lil2rich4u2,

Me thinketh you have math problems in plentiful supply :1orglaugh

Below 0.59 on your above post would be:

<font color="yellow"><b>---</b> [Quoted from above]
<font color="aqua">plan 3:
600gig for $299 ($3 overage i think)</font>
<b>---</b></font>

Making for 0.50/GB :)

Then again you could research properly if really seeking to get closer to a point where you can run a TGP more cost effectively and easily find a few hosts that work with shared hosting at no more than 6 persons per server and charge 0.47 and under per GB on plans that cost under $100... some be under $80 :)

Dedicated can get you much cheaper bandwidth costs overall, but you need make more money to cover the static monthly server rental, or colo fees, to make for EFFECTIVE per GB cost to get below 0.50... implies you also need be doing a heap of GB to reap the per GB bandwidth savings :)


Later, <b>RIPP</b> :) <b>[</b><font color="aqua">Shane, Aka <font color="orange">noreseller.</font> from old Oxcash forums</font><b>]</b>

true

i based above on birtual packages

<br>
<b>PS.</b> If you're really sneaky & know how to design a clever website you can find an inexpensive host for the scrupt code & database running and a host that has <u>STATIC</u> hosting plans @ under 0.40/GB [<font color="aqua">most start at under a $25 base hosting plan fee with no setup costs</font>] and find that you can intergrate the two sites.

<b>1)</b> You can have the scrupts & database running your sites and referencing image/movie content from the static host.

<b>2)</b> You can design a fully dynamic site on the fully enabled web host & have it automatically upload dynamically generated,(<font color="aqua">but now static</font>) pages to the static host say once per 12 hours or per day if you wished etc..... If your site were to say it updated daily you could just upload daily,[<font color="yellow">to fake a dynamic site even if on static host you could have a JEVASCRUPT code banner rotator written into the pages</font>]

<b>3)</b> You could be realllllly clever and create a fully dynamic site on the fully enabled web host, automatically have these pages converted to a JEVASCRUPT code format & have them then automatically uploaded to the static host, say once per 12 hours, or per day, if you wished..... Then you run the basic scrupt for link codes on the fully enabled host but all the content <u><b>AND</b></u> the webpages themselves are loaded in though JEVASCRUPT code from the static host, just appearing to the surfer that they belong to that exact domain, on the fully enabled host,(<font color="yellow">when really they belong to your subdomain which is pointing to the static host</font>) :winkwink:

<font color="#ccff66">What's all this mean... Well it means quite simply that you could be running a fully enabled tradable TGP with just 1 low cost base plan from a fully enabled quality host and all extra bandwidth be just 0.40/GB from the static host..... Since the fully enabled isn't really serving any traffic, a minimum account for under 15GB should suffice very comfortably for most decent to large size TGP sites.</font> :thumbsup

<font color="pink">I <u><b>JEVASCRUPT</b></u>'d above because apparently the board is now censored against such rude & abusive language</font> :tongue:

Pps. Just because I have now shared one clever way to save a buck does not mean anyone will get rich unless they are already capable of turning a buck, or are close to it and just need lower bandwidth costs.... You still need to know how to convert that surfer, or have them become a bookmarker, to come back another day... even if you can never get to convert them, if you treat them well you could simply have them making money for you via alternate means.. ie. referring friends that may convert, to help you with trades via clicking some trade links,(<font color="yellow">blind or knowingly</font>) or by the simple fact that high number of bookmarkers on a nice looking site, that isn't giving it ALL away, or full of popups, can inspire advertisers to pay you nice $$$ to buy some banner spots on your site :) ...... Play with low traffic & get a high ROI,(<font color="#ccff66">Return On Investment</font>) before forking out major money on high numbers of traffic that you might simply burn up all your money on,.. cost of the uniques + cost of bandwidth can kill off both the newbie and the experienced if they don't have many reserves of cash & didn't plan well enough.

<font color="pink">Make sure your hosting account can handle major traffic before you pump it through also... nothing worse than having all them click$$$ going to something that can't even muster up the energy for a 404.</font>


Later, <b>RIPP</b> :) <b>[</b><font color="aqua">Shane, Aka <font color="orange">noreseller.</font> from old Oxcash forums</font><b>]</b>

nice post!



lol not me man, i usually get cought at everything i do, LOL!!!




But thanks, seems very informative and im sure some will be helped by it

umm... yeah right. How many people can seriously pull that much from gallery submitting? At $25/sale, that's 6.5 sales per day. You'd have to submit very fresh content, and buy a lot of your spots.

From what I've seen, nobody is going to get to that level with the "build, submit, build, submit, etc..., hope you get listed" method.

I am like -SO- writing this all down

wow we have a RIP and a RIPP

LOL!!

Doesnt seem possible on a daily basis for 30 days streight, BUT im sure most the guys with 4k+ posts can do it with ease.

I hear they also know where sadaam is too!!

:Buck:

Yep :1orglaugh ... there be 2, Kindof Rip[P]'s .. lol.

Rip used to be Riptide from a post he wrote after one of mine last year he mentioned... dunno whether he was Riptide when I first registered or not & later changed the nick, or he changed it before I got on the board.. but I was unaware there be any similar nicks on the board until many months I think it was later when I saw his nick in a thread I was posting too... pretty much straight after his post I think.. lol .... PP .. I'm the RIPP with 2xP I wrote by my signature that day.. lol ..... But I think I'm pretty easily recognised, so it shouldn't get too confusing.

<font color="yellow">1. I don't post much to boards.
2. I type a lot when I do usually.
3. Plenty of colour in my posts... <b><font color="pink">PL<font color="orange">EN</font><font color="#00ff33">TY</font></font></b>.. hehe :tongue:
4. I got the <b>PP</b> on my nick.
5. I'm all in CAPITALS.
6. I'll always be like a multiple of 10 lower in post count :1orglaugh</font>

<b>Ps.</b> Hi Rip :thumbsup


Later, <b>RIPP</b> :) <b>[</b><font color="aqua">Shane, Aka <font color="orange">noreseller.</font> from old Oxcash forums</font><b>]</b>

yea i love the colors!!

I wish there was software to allow us to use colors easier than using BBS tags.

heh

Your posts seem quite informative, i personally prefer someone to post long posts that cover everything, then someone like me who takes 20 posts to cover one question, LOL!!!

good job bud, thanks! :thumbsup

Just out of curiosity, what's your obsession with post counts?

You always seem to refer to them as if they will somehow validate anything you're saying.

the comment your referring to, and most others are sarcastic

i dont understand, lol

"cracka" in what sense?

and "lol coin" ???

First of all you shoul dnot be paying rental fees or any of that otehr bullshit to get a dedicated server. MOst host will give you one at no cost provided you push a min 500gb/mth or whatever.

Alll this jabber about b/w is a waste of time. No matter what you do you will be profitable - you will not burn more b/w than you make sales. The only way you will do this is with movie galleries done wrong. pic galleries, tgps, other free sites = peanuts in b/w.

There is no way around the inevitable. It takes relentless learning and effort to make it in this biz. Most of this biz is simple and easy - you get out of it what you put into it.

Most intelligent ,hard working, personable, dynamic thinking people are capable of this if not more. If you buy spots then you should be making $10k/mth at least.

Most people lack these characteristics. That is why most people are noobs. Thank god. :1orglaugh

:BangBang: Spice scavenging noobs!

i'm too bored too look. anyone know off hand what site(s) this retard runs?

prolly not his mouth as much as some assholes on here, dont wanna yell names. But ill whisper them!!! quiet quiet quiet quiet

so easy to needle you. so what your running?

you meant what am I running? Or what is jojo running?

tell us more? should we be heading there for financial advice? :glugglug

hehe

mean :winkwink:

He's asking you.

pleasuredvds.com and all 6000 sub sites are mine

Anyone know some good TGP's to buy spots?

wow. it amazes me all the different things people do. I'm not saying this is bad, only that I can't imagine building a complete site for less than $50,000.

although, I must admit that my newest site (also a DVD site) is going up for about $10K. But that's in large part to the fact that I already build most of the infrastructure, the new site is only a product site. Most of that 10K is for the cam and the duplicator.

I am Quiet's illigitimate child DNA to prove it

Yeah I used to be riptide @ the pcbbs... until I lost my hotmail addy and couldn't change my password - this is getting damn
confusing isnt it :winkwink:

Maybe I'll change my handle again I dunno

Alot of you guys have commented how making $1k-$2k a month off a 300k tgp is nothing.


Well i guess you are right.

So far on my 20k tgp looks like im avg'ing over $1.2k per month.

This includes money from email panels, FTC $1 signups, advertising, selling my clicks to spotbrokers, and AP pics on bottom of page.

Again i dont have the cash right now to test it, but if i had 300k a day, i imagine the numbers MIGHT be near 10x this.

Even if its at a low 7x this, that is still almost $9k

Im sure this is low because i dont do any real promoting on my TGP, and even if i did, i suck at it, lol

i dont believe you, we need more people

more people?

I will take your advice. Thank you.

Better than having someone with the same nick as you on another popular board that's an asshole and people keep mistaking you for them... :1orglaugh

... Seen that happen to a few luckless people before.

I think I've registered as <b>RIPP</b> on what were the most popular and biggest boards back in 2001, 2002, to try to help protect myself from this... though pretty much only ever posted on Oxcash forum board and the few posts I've done on GFY & PornMegaBucks.... don't have the inclination to spend all day on the boards... <font color="yellow">There's money in them-thar surfers</font> :1orglaugh

Tis kewl if you stay Rip with me,[<font color="aqua"><i>Though remember to back me up if someone at some stage accuses me of talking to myself on here</i></font> :1orglaugh] .... I'll keep my Oxcash forum tag for a while and still be more colourful in posting and have like 10x less in the post count stakes than you.

Keeping the Oxcash forum tag in so I don't need seek to build up rep. again on another board... so many boards these days.. you could be friends & respected on one and on another just a stranger passing through due to different nick required, or people sometimes realising nicks between boards doesn't always mean that it's the same person posting.

Anyhow... nuther long post even though was supposed to be just a quickie.


Later, <b>RIPP</b> :) <b>[</b><font color="aqua">Shane, Aka <font color="orange">noreseller.</font> from old Oxcash forums</font><b>]</b>