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RummyBoy 06-17-2015 06:52 AM

Air Force may send top-line fighters to Europe - CNNPolitics.com

Nice to see the US wants to de-escalate the situation...... (dripping with sarcasm)

directfiesta 06-17-2015 06:52 AM

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Originally Posted by aka123 (Post 20500457)
Yep, you read it right. There are plenty of countries without nukes. Even those without indirectly having nukes (like NATO countries).

What do you think would happen if Russia would give up nukes?

Ask those who didittt ( :) ) : Kadafi gave up his nuclear program ... Oups, he can no longer answer ...
Let's ask Kim Jung .. Oh, he kept them and still can answer ....

:2 cents:

just a punk 06-17-2015 07:48 AM

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Originally Posted by aka123 (Post 20500457)
Yep, you read it right. There are plenty of countries without nukes.

E.g. Korea, Vietnam, Serbia, Somalia, Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Syria, etc. No, thank you! :1orglaugh

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Originally Posted by crockett (Post 20500459)
Here I will help our commie overlords out with some awesome North Korean propaganda...

Have no idea, but here is some Vietnamese "propaganda" (sure it's all fake because your soldiers dindu nuffins):

https://laluchasigueysigue.files.wor...y-lai-2jpg.jpg

http://maghis.oxfordjournals.org/con...4/F2.large.jpg

http://sovserv.ru/KA6AH/usatruth/usa.../pics2/a45.jpg

http://sovserv.ru/KA6AH/usatruth/usa...les/4-4287.jpg

http://svpressa.ru/p/115658/l-115658.jpg

http://www.usinfo.ru/pics/viet-head.jpg

WARNING: graphic content.

aka123 06-17-2015 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by directfiesta (Post 20500531)
Ask those who didittt ( :) ) : Kadafi gave up his nuclear program ... Oups, he can no longer answer ...
Let's ask Kim Jung .. Oh, he kept them and still can answer ....

:2 cents:

Fine comparisons. Putin will be proud. :)

By the way, North-Korea probably don't even have capability to transfer the nuke.. well.. except by truck or something like that.

aka123 06-17-2015 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 20500571)
E.g. Korea, Vietnam, Serbia, Somalia, Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Syria, etc. No, thank you! :1orglaugh

Again, fine comparisons. You must be one proud Russian. :)

just a punk 06-17-2015 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by aka123 (Post 20500593)
Again, fine comparisons. You must be one proud Russian.

I'm proud I'm not stupid to so seriously think about such suicide "choices" :pimp

aka123 06-17-2015 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 20500614)
I'm proud I'm not stupid to so seriously think about such suicide "choices" :pimp

I asked what you think would happen and you mentioned some quite small countries with not so good armies. So, US (or China for example) would attack you? And your army sucks so badly that without nukes you can't do shit?

I know that your army lacks compared to western counterparts, but it is that bad? And there has to be war in the first place that this would be an issue.

just a punk 06-17-2015 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by aka123 (Post 20500631)
And your army sucks so badly that without nukes you can't do shit?

Did you learn math in the school? Go figure the NATO's military budget (the USA + all other countries of the block) and compare it to the Russian one. Go figure the total size of NATO army and compare it to the Russian one. The same applies to China of course. The one must be a complete idiot if he can't do 2+2. I do remember your answer to some kiddy puzzle (for 7 year old) about cars on parking, so I'm not surprised...

If you remember, the nuclear weapon was invented by the USA. And the only country which used it was the USA. They dropped two nuke bombs to civilian (as usually) cities in Japan, but the real target was Soviet Union. They wanted to show their power to the USSR. This is not a secret actually. So go educate yourself, kid: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plan_Totality. The only reason they haven't implemented that plan is clearly described here: Wikileaks on plan "TOTALITY" and similar ones in the past - so who's the real assessor, ah?

Struggle4Bucks 06-17-2015 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 20500316)
reality: the USA will make an iraq out of europe to keep the USA out of the conflict...oh and using nukes against russia is not an option LOL...both europe and the USA would be turned to crystal...

The US is not able to make an Iraq out of Europe... This is civilized world... not some unstable region... and Europe doesn't need the US to protect itself from Russia...


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Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 20500316)

I don't see how a few US army bases on European soil are influencing internal European politics:1orglaugh
Ever heard of Allied Joint Force Command? Many countries have armies in other countries... German army has bases in France. Netherlands had one i Germany, etc...
It's Allied Joint Force Command.... Most of US bases oversees have to do with obligations regarding to NATO... not with vassal-states...So.. go back to school... please...

Hey ... this is not my quote:
Originally Posted by Struggle4Bucks View Post
Here in Eastern Europe there has been only one country in recent history that was an occupying force for over 40 years and it wasn't the Americans. More people died under Soviet rule than Nazi Germany. So explain to me why I should want Russia to win anything ever?

pimpmaster9000 06-17-2015 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by crockett (Post 20500470)
It's funny that Putin's says look at maps see all the US bases vs russian.. then like good little mindless zombies you little commies go running around the Internet showing us all maps...

LOL lets just ignore the maps because its detrimental to your arguments :1orglaugh:1orglaugh


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Originally Posted by crockett (Post 20500470)
Seems to me, the reason there are not more Russian bases, is because no one wants you guys around.

cuba wanted a russian base remember? it got 50 years of sancitons LOL :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

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Originally Posted by crockett (Post 20500470)

The US bases around the world were all brokered deals with very few exceptions from bases coming by way of war..

riiiiiiiiiiight.... "brokered" ...they all desperately wanted armed US thugs on their territory to keep them "safe" LOL you have to be kidding right? :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh



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Originally Posted by crockett (Post 20500470)

Most countries want US bases because they know if there are US troops stationed there, no other govt is invading their country. Meanwhile when commies invade they do things like wall off the country.. (think East Germany, North Korea). Yet still you don't get that the reason the US won and you guys lost is because no one likes your flavor of koolaide.


sound familiar?:
Racketeering refers to criminal activity that is performed to benefit an organization such as a crime syndicate. Examples of racketeering activity include extortion, money laundering, loan sharking, obstruction of justice and bribery.

:2 cents::2 cents::thumbsup:thumbsup

pimpmaster9000 06-17-2015 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Struggle4Bucks (Post 20500822)
The US is not able to make an Iraq out of Europe... This is civilized world... not some unstable region... and Europe doesn't need the US to protect itself from Russia...]

iraq was quite civilized and so was iran before the USA "liberated" the regions from civilization :1orglaugh

yugoslavia was doing fine, middle of europe, and got turned in to a war zone...

as for US bases its as simple as:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protection_racket


if you think the USA put military bases for altruistic reasons then you are very amusing indeed...you truly believe that the USA is some sort of good will organization LOL...don't know what to say to something like that I really dont....

dyna mo 06-17-2015 11:57 AM

iraq and iran were quite civilized before USA? :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

they were riding fucking camels before the USA, you dumbfuck east eurotard

crockett 06-17-2015 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 20500868)
LOL lets just ignore the maps because its detrimental to your arguments :1orglaugh:1orglaugh




cuba wanted a russian base remember? it got 50 years of sancitons LOL :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh



riiiiiiiiiiight.... "brokered" ...they all desperately wanted armed US thugs on their territory to keep them "safe" LOL you have to be kidding right? :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh






sound familiar?:
Racketeering refers to criminal activity that is performed to benefit an organization such as a crime syndicate. Examples of racketeering activity include extortion, money laundering, loan sharking, obstruction of justice and bribery.

:2 cents::2 cents::thumbsup:thumbsup

Don't be such a fucking dumbass, Russia was installing nuclear missiles in Cuba.. They weren't slapped with sanctions over a military base..

pimpmaster9000 06-17-2015 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20500875)
iraq and iran were quite civilized before USA? :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

they were riding fucking camels before the USA, you dumbfuck east eurotard

you ignoramus, the iranians and iraqis are good, kind and educated people, this is not something a person who has never been outside the USA would know...riding camels in a dessert, where camels live, is nothing strange...dubai has camels LOL...

what the USA gave them, with the failed puppet government in iran, and the consequent injection by means of USA of saddam in to the conflict is the US foreign policies "civilized" contribution to the region...you fucked the region up not them...

nice job btw you guys really win at foreign policy...you should look up the words "peace" and "liberation" I dont think you know what those words actually mean :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Quote:

Originally Posted by crockett (Post 20500875)
Don't be such a fucking dumbass, Russia was installing nuclear missiles in Cuba.. They weren't slapped with sanctions over a military base..

and you are willing to bet both your nuts that no US nukes are stationed in europe? :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_sharing

american double standard LOL...the only nation in the world to actually drop nukes, installs nukes near russia but goes apeshit when the russians want to reciprocate :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh...if it werent for double standards, americans would have no standards at all trololol :1orglaugh

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aka123 06-17-2015 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 20500778)
Did you learn math in the school? Go figure the NATO's military budget (the USA + all other countries of the block) and compare it to the Russian one. Go figure the total size of NATO army and compare it to the Russian one. The same applies to China of course. The one must be a complete idiot if he can't do 2+2. I do remember your answer to some kiddy puzzle (for 7 year old) about cars on parking, so I'm not surprised...

LOL. You seriously think that all NATO would attack to Russia? The only reason it would even happen anywhere near would require serious aggression from Russia itself. Pretty much every single European country were declining their military budgets until you guys invaded Ukraine and annexed Crimea. Even still, budgets are just budgets. Budgets won't attack nowhere.

Russia is the nazi country literally, not the other way around. And just about 25 years ago, it was the holy motherland of Russia that had all the plans to invade the whole Europe. And as you laugh Ukraine, etc. being so poor and miserable, losing those countries from under your rule shouldn't matter budget wise.

dyna mo 06-17-2015 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 20501000)
you ignoramus, the iranians and iraqis are good, kind and educated people, this is not something a person who has never been outside the USA would know...riding camels in a dessert, where camels live, is nothing strange...dubai has camels LOL...

what the USA gave them, with the failed puppet government in iran, and the consequent injection by means of USA of saddam in to the conflict is the US foreign policies "civilized" contribution to the region...you fucked the region up not them...

nice job btw you guys really win at foreign policy...you should look up the words "peace" and "liberation" I dont think you know what those words actually mean :1orglaugh:1orglaugh


you are fucking insane to think that a region plagued by religious wars, military coups, civilian unrest and brutal supressions by dictators over the centuries is populated by just a bunch of nice educated folks before, you know, 'Merica.



what a fucking nitwit.

Vendzilla 06-17-2015 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 20500122)
So according to Vendyzilla i dont understand the US because of pickup trucks and according to you I am the EU defence expert that keeps the EU from defending you guys?

I think the marihuana laws need to be reconsidered

No , because you don't understand why we have pickups, not because of pickups.

aka123 06-17-2015 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 20501027)
No , because you don't understand why we have pickups, not because of pickups.

Why you have pickups? Much to pick up? :)

You feel more free if you can pick up much stuff?

Vendzilla 06-17-2015 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by aka123 (Post 20501036)
Why you have pickups? Much to pick up? :)

You feel more free if you can pick up much stuff?

A lot of people don't live in the cities, they live in the country. They need them for all sorts of reasons.

Ever heard of a tail gate party?

aka123 06-17-2015 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 20501049)
A lot of people don't live in the cities, they live in the country. They need them for all sorts of reasons.

Ever heard of a tail gate party?

No, I haven't heard about tail gate party.

So, what the reasons are? I am not unfamiliar to countryside and my family has a farm. But there aren't that much pickups. Trailers are used, not pickups.

Vendzilla 06-17-2015 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by aka123 (Post 20501056)
No, I haven't heard about tail gate party.

So, what the reasons are? I am not unfamiliar to countryside and my family has a farm. But there aren't that much pickups. Trailers are used, not pickups.


Have a party with your tail gate down, cook food, have drinks and enjoy the out doors. You'll see a lot of this at sporting events.


https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com...57cd616be1.jpg

We use pick up's to pull trailers

_Richard_ 06-17-2015 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 20501049)
A lot of people don't live in the cities, they live in the country. They need them for all sorts of reasons.

Ever heard of a tail gate party?

they have a lot of pickups over here.. also a lot of fat people, and yes, shockingly enough, europe has black people

i have yet to figure out why they seem to think otherwise lol

Vendzilla 06-17-2015 04:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by _Richard_ (Post 20501072)
they have a lot of pickups over here.. also a lot of fat people, and yes, shockingly enough, europe has black people

i have yet to figure out why they seem to think otherwise lol

This all started because of a thread where Dalton didn't understand how the f150 pickup could be the number one selling car in the US, yet understood our politics as he always has to chime in with his opinion, I merely pointed out to him that if he couldn't understand why we had pickups, how could he know jack shit about our politics when he doesn't understand the country

D Ghost 06-17-2015 04:28 PM

Useless article, as usual.

Struggle4Bucks 06-17-2015 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 20500873)
iraq was quite civilized and so was iran before the USA "liberated" the regions from civilization :1orglaugh

yugoslavia was doing fine, middle of europe, and got turned in to a war zone...

as for US bases its as simple as:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protection_racket


if you think the USA put military bases for altruistic reasons then you are very amusing indeed...you truly believe that the USA is some sort of good will organization LOL...don't know what to say to something like that I really dont....

Apart from being civilized... all countries you mentioned were never stable...
On the surface maybe... because of mass oppression by dictators... Iraq; iran; Yugoslavia:
all internally heavilly divided by differences of it's inhabitants. Take away the regime in such countries and it will show it's true face [read: no face] and it will fall apart because it was never "one".

Learn to read... i never thought of America as an altruistic- or a good will organization...
Like i said... Many countries have many bases all over the world... US is not the only one who has military across the world. Learn to understand what NATO is... what Allied Joint Force Command is.... NATO members have obligations towards eachother. Their militaries work together closely.... Calling Western European countries US vassal states is a lack of understanding Western Civilization. US has no jurisdiction in Europe. But the two continents are closely culturally related. Share the same political interests, etc...

Quote:

Originally Posted by aka123 (Post 20501010)
LOL. You seriously think that all NATO would attack to Russia? The only reason it would even happen anywhere near would require serious aggression from Russia itself.

If Russia attacks one NATO member... with one of these 40 missiles or not...yes... that will be the end of Russia...

pimpmaster9000 06-17-2015 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20501018)
you are fucking insane to think that a region plagued by religious wars, military coups, civilian unrest and brutal supressions by dictators over the centuries is populated by just a bunch of nice educated folks before, you know, 'Merica.



what a fucking nitwit.

dindu, you guys started the coups, and dictators have nothing to do with education, a corporate puppet government and 1trillion$ student debt is no pre-requisite for a quality education :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

dindu seriously now, you are a fool who has never been outside the USA...I can not blame you for thinking other people are uneducated because you are a victim of US education and you are simply unaware of your unawareness :1orglaugh:1orglaugh your bacon hugging brain wash can not accept that americans are nothing special, you just print hella money and enforce it on others, make others follow suit or be left behind, and then claim to be ultra progressive and successful and democratic LOL...you are to the world what tubes are to porn...

this is why I find dindus so amusing...you guys should vote in berine madoff as president LOL he is the most american american there is :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

U.S. National Debt Clock : Real Time

baller economy my ass LOL

pimpmaster9000 06-17-2015 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Struggle4Bucks (Post 20501111)
Apart from being civilized... all countries you mentioned were never stable...
On the surface maybe... because of mass oppression by dictators... Iraq; iran; Yugoslavia:
all internally heavilly divided by differences of it's inhabitants. Take away the regime in such countries and it will show it's true face [read: no face] and it will fall apart because it was never "one".

iran: US installed puppet regime sucked so much it catapulted khomeini to power
Iraq: saddam got stoked by US to fix mess made in iran then the US invade former best boy
yugoslavia: LOL one of the most peaceful countries in the world, we had more peace than the USA at any time in its history before the USA gave support to actual terrorists (who tried to blow up the statue of liberty LOL attacked embassies in USA hijacked US planes, you cant make this shit up) and to muslim separatists (2 muslim countries in europe) LOL




Quote:

Originally Posted by Struggle4Bucks (Post 20501111)
US has no jurisdiction in Europe. But the two continents are closely culturally related. Share the same political interests, etc...

print hella money, push hella money on "allies" get them in hella debt, make them follow suit with printing hella money just to keep up, install hella army, enforce printed hella money with hella army= vasal states...

remember the UK backed the US over invading iraq because WMD LOL just an example...



Quote:

Originally Posted by Struggle4Bucks (Post 20501111)

If Russia attacks one NATO member... with one of these 40 missiles or not...yes... that will be the end of Russia...

its stunning to me that you think russia will attack nato...I understand ukraine, its a forced conflict but poland or whatever? stunning...russia, asia, the middle east and pretty much the entire 3rd world know the USA for what it is..

arock10 06-17-2015 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 20501049)
A lot of people don't live in the cities, they live in the country. They need them for all sorts of reasons.

Ever heard of a tail gate party?

I believe you are getting a need and a want confused

Struggle4Bucks 06-17-2015 06:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 20501136)
iran: US installed puppet regime sucked so much it catapulted khomeini to power
Iraq: saddam got stoked by US to fix mess made in iran then the US invade former best boy
yugoslavia: LOL one of the most peaceful countries in the world, we had more peace than the USA at any time in its history before the USA gave support to actual terrorists (who tried to blow up the statue of liberty LOL attacked embassies in USA hijacked US planes, you cant make this shit up) and to muslim separatists (2 muslim countries in europe) LOL

Iran: the people in Iran are so happy with it's government:winkwink:
Iraq: I don't approve what happend in Iraq... that's not the issue here...
But without Sadam you see what a divided shithole it was under the surface of his dictatorship.
Yugoslavia(1918-2003): If you look at the history of the area... you understand that Yugoslavia was never a natural "thing".... You can't blame the West for the different peoples who live in that area wanted to seperate and become independent... and start a war over it...

Quote:

Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 20501136)
print hella money, push hella money on "allies" get them in hella debt, make them follow suit with printing hella money just to keep up, install hella army, enforce printed hella money with hella army= vasal states...

We don't have dollars here... we have the euro... Europe doesn't print it's money like FED does for the States... including a debt for every printed dollar. National debts of european countries are nowhere near the level of US debts... Since the euro crisis the debts of many euro countries increased dramatically.... but that's because of Greece... not because of US.

Quote:

Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 20501136)
remember the UK backed the US over invading iraq because WMD LOL just an example...

Yes... but then also remeber that a lot of european countries (France, Germany, Sweden, Luxembourg, Belgium, Switzerland) did NOT back the US entering the Iraq war...
So... that kinda fucks up your Europe-vasal-state-of-US-theory.... doesn't it?

Quote:

Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 20501136)
its stunning to me that you think russia will attack nato...I understand ukraine, its a forced conflict but poland or whatever? stunning...russia, asia, the middle east and pretty much the entire 3rd world know the USA for what it is..

It's stunning to me that you think that i think that Russia will attack NATO. Of course it won't... and that's why i'm not concerned about those 40 missiles...

just a punk 06-18-2015 03:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Struggle4Bucks (Post 20501111)
If Russia attacks one NATO member... with one of these 40 missiles or not...yes... that will be the end of Russia...

LOL, dude ))) That will be the end for a whole Earth. And if you think you will survive, you are a very naive person :winkwink:

aka123 06-18-2015 03:37 AM

For real; nuclear war wouldn't destroy whole Earth or even humans, but USA and Russia would be quite blasted (if those are the only participants), though probably for example Siberia and Alaska wouldn't be so much blasted.

But maybe Russia would blast whole Europe too, who knows, that was the plan before. Still, Earth is large.

To sum it up: keep your asshole games in your ass. No need to blast big part of Earth because of two fucking countries. Two fucking countries; there are about 200 countries in total.

just a punk 06-18-2015 03:49 AM

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Originally Posted by aka123 (Post 20501370)
For real; nuclear war wouldn't destroy whole Earth or even humans

Massive firestorms will destroy it. Even if not 100% of oxygen will be burnt out, there will be left not enough plants to re-generate the atmosphere + there will be no sun (because of nuclear winter as a result of firestorms) for a rather long time. Long enough to kill flora and fauna.

aka123 06-18-2015 03:53 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 20501371)
Massive firestorms will destroy it. Even if not 100% of oxygen will be burnt out, there will be left not enough plants to re-generate the atmosphere + there will be no sun (because of nuclear winter as a result of firestorms) for a rather long time. Long enough to kill flora and fauna.

Nukes are area weapons, not doomsday. Nuke blasts have radius and there will be no fucking firestorms outside that radius (other than possible spread fires). I don't buy even that oxygen depletion thing, even temporarily. Locally maybe (in or near the blast radius).

Or is Russia such asshole country that you plan to nuke every inch on Earth?

pimpmaster9000 06-18-2015 04:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Struggle4Bucks (Post 20501152)
Iran: the people in Iran are so happy with it's government:winkwink:
Iraq: I don't approve what happend in Iraq... that's not the issue here...
But without Sadam you see what a divided shithole it was under the surface of his dictatorship.
Yugoslavia(1918-2003): If you look at the history of the area... you understand that Yugoslavia was never a natural "thing".... You can't blame the West for the different peoples who live in that area wanted to seperate and become independent... and start a war over it...

watch some documentaries over the rise of khomeini in iran...you will understand what a massive failure US foreign policy and its puppet government were, subsequently you will understand how saddam got pulled in to the war and then fucked over...saddam was the USA-s best boy back in the day...

as for yugoslavia you are completely wrong, we lived in peace, the west gave support to actual terrorists, the people got stoked with promises of a better life, and even after than a peace deal was signed by ALL sides, then the fighting miraculously broke out :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

the war was basically the entire world, against the serbian minority in bosnia and croatia, mainland serbia did not take any part in the war, you are left with 2 conclusions:

1) a minority wanted to fight the whole world after they signed a peace deal
2) the USA makes hella money starting wars...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Struggle4Bucks (Post 20501152)

We don't have dollars here... we have the euro... Europe doesn't print it's money like FED does for the States... including a debt for every printed dollar. National debts of european countries are nowhere near the level of US debts... Since the euro crisis the debts of many euro countries increased dramatically.... but that's because of Greece... not because of US.

take a look at the Euro zone countries you will see this is not true:

World Debt Clocks

notice how JUST the EU countries are in hella debt and not for example russia,china,india...its like a game of poker where the USA can not lose because it prints more and more money and the others have to follow suit or leave the game...leaving the game is not an option of course...its like what the tubes did to porn, this is what the USA is doing to the world....printing money and calling themselves "successful" yet even with the printed money they are like 18trillion$ in debt and 100trillion in unfunded liabilities...

just a punk 06-18-2015 04:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aka123 (Post 20501372)
Nukes are area weapons, not doomsday. Nuke blasts have radius and there will be no fucking firestorms outside that radius (other than possible spread fires). I don't buy even that oxygen depletion thing, even temporarily. Locally maybe (in or near the blast radius).

Or is Russia such asshole country that you plan to nuke every inch on Earth?

I won't explain you how it works. There are tons of researches and computer models. When Soviets exploded 50 MT bomb, but initially it was planned to explode 100 MT which was technically very easy (actually there is almost no limit for the H-bomb power). Go figure why exactly its power was reduced twice. Now calculate the summary power of all nukes that Russia and the USA have got together... A single ICBM "Сармат" can deliver up to 10-15 nuclear warheads of 800KT each (8MT summary). Use Google already and learn what scenarists say about it. I'm not your teacher.

http://www.nationaldefensemagazine.o...ar-figures.gif

Once again a have a feeling you are a little kid. Have no idea what are you doing on the adult board...

aka123 06-18-2015 04:49 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 20501388)
I won't explain you how it works. There are tons of researches and computer models. When Soviets exploded 50 MT bomb, but initially it was planned to explode 100 MT which was technically very easy (actually there is almost no limit for the H-bomb power). Go figure why exactly its power was reduced twice. Now calculate the summary power of all nukes that Russia and the USA have got together... A single ICBM "Сармат" can deliver up to 10-15 nuclear warheads of 800KT each (8MT summary). Use Google already and learn what scenarists say about it. I'm not your teacher.

http://www.nationaldefensemagazine.o...ar-figures.gif

Once again a have a feeling you are a little kid. Have no idea what are you doing on the adult board...

First of all, only small part of the warheads are even operational, you know, those can actually be fired, as you can see from the pic. Secondly, not the whole Earth is targeted as far as I know. Using the whole US and Russia arsenal is just over-nuking the same places. Thus, the fire effects, etc. are limited after it has all burnt up. Nuking the same place doesn't bring the same effect as in the first time. And thirdly, at least for the benefit of non-human life; there are non-sun dependent life on Earth, so even if you put a black dome over Earth, there will still be life. In case there will be such much smoke and dust that it blackens the sky for long periods. Even small amount of humans can live based on that non-sun dependent life if there is just enough oxygen (that you can get from water too if necessary).

just a punk 06-18-2015 05:05 AM

You are so naive my friend, if you think you are smarter than all those scientists who made models of global nuclear war. Let me repeat: Google is your friend - use it sometimes :)

Start with this: 'Nuclear winter' may kill more than a nuclear war - environment - 01 March 2007 - New Scientist

Some more articles for you, if Goggle is not reachable for you:
What would nuclear winter be like? - HowStuffWorks
Climatic Consequences of Nuclear Conflict
https://www.uow.edu.au/~bmartin/pubs/88spp.html
etc..

http://climate.envsci.rutgers.edu/nu...BCabsopred.gif

aka123 06-18-2015 05:19 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 20501421)
You are so naive my friend, if you think you are smarter than all those scientists who made models of global nuclear war. Let me repeat: Google is your friend - use it sometimes :)

Start with this: 'Nuclear winter' may kill more than a nuclear war - environment - 01 March 2007 - New Scientist

"A regional exchange of relatively small nuclear weapons could plunge the world into a decade-long "nuclear winter", destroying agriculture and killing millions, according to a new study. "

"By contrast, a regional exchange where adversaries target each others' megacities would ignite huge urban firestorms. Toon calculates the smoke released per kilotonne of explosive yield would be 100 times greater than in the Cold War scenarios."

"This is partly because modern scenarios aim at different targets. Toon says most of the huge US and Russian nuclear warheads are aimed, in a first strike, at missile silos in wilderness or suburban military installations. There is not much to burn, and after the first warhead hits, subsequent explosions do not release much additional smoke."

'Nuclear winter' may kill more than a nuclear war - environment - 01 March 2007 - New Scientist

So, millions dead, but there are billions of people and the later quote says exactly what I said before. Millions dead isn't doomsday. WWII alone killed about 60-80 million people.

Of course it would suck, I am not saying it wouldn't.

directfiesta 06-18-2015 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 20501049)

Ever heard of a tail gate party?

... hummm, that sounds pretty gay :2 cents:

MaDalton 06-18-2015 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 20501087)
This all started because of a thread where Dalton didn't understand how the f150 pickup could be the number one selling car in the US, yet understood our politics as he always has to chime in with his opinion, I merely pointed out to him that if he couldn't understand why we had pickups, how could he know jack shit about our politics when he doesn't understand the country

Every time i read this i laugh even harder - keep it coming :thumbsup

aka123 06-18-2015 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 20501925)
Every time i read this i laugh even harder - keep it coming :thumbsup

We already know that they are bunch of farmers who love tail gate parties. At least that is what I was told. I am a bit puzzled how this relates to US politics, at least besides farming subsidies.

Struggle4Bucks 06-19-2015 12:33 AM

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Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 20501377)
watch some documentaries over the rise of khomeini in iran...you will understand what a massive failure US foreign policy and its puppet government were, subsequently you will understand how saddam got pulled in to the war and then fucked over...saddam was the USA-s best boy back in the day...

as for yugoslavia you are completely wrong, we lived in peace, the west gave support to actual terrorists, the people got stoked with promises of a better life, and even after than a peace deal was signed by ALL sides, then the fighting miraculously broke out :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

the war was basically the entire world, against the serbian minority in bosnia and croatia, mainland serbia did not take any part in the war, you are left with 2 conclusions:

1) a minority wanted to fight the whole world after they signed a peace deal
2) the USA makes hella money starting wars...



take a look at the Euro zone countries you will see this is not true:

World Debt Clocks

notice how JUST the EU countries are in hella debt and not for example russia,china,india...its like a game of poker where the USA can not lose because it prints more and more money and the others have to follow suit or leave the game...leaving the game is not an option of course...its like what the tubes did to porn, this is what the USA is doing to the world....printing money and calling themselves "successful" yet even with the printed money they are like 18trillion$ in debt and 100trillion in unfunded liabilities...

Pfff i don't have time for this shit... So i would like to keep it on subject: You called Europe vasal states of US. I proofed you're wrong...

Struggle4Bucks 06-19-2015 12:35 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 20501363)
LOL, dude ))) That will be the end for a whole Earth. And if you think you will survive, you are a very naive person :winkwink:

You are way too pessimistic... Before Russia will push a button the button will allready be gone...:1orglaugh

Struggle4Bucks 06-19-2015 12:54 AM

Pfff... ok one more time...

Quote:

Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 20501377)
watch some documentaries over the rise of khomeini in iran...you will understand what a massive failure US foreign policy and its puppet government were, subsequently you will understand how saddam got pulled in to the war and then fucked over...saddam was the USA-s best boy back in the day...

Jesus Christ... where did i say US did a great job in Iran and Iraq? Where did i say that the whole Iraq war was a war about wmd?????????
Jesus Christ...

Quote:

Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 20501377)
as for yugoslavia you are completely wrong, we lived in peace, the west gave support to actual terrorists, the people got stoked with promises of a better life, and even after than a peace deal was signed by ALL sides, then the fighting miraculously broke out :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

the war was basically the entire world, against the serbian minority in bosnia and croatia, mainland serbia did not take any part in the war, you are left with 2 conclusions:

1) a minority wanted to fight the whole world after they signed a peace deal
2) the USA makes hella money starting wars...

There is Always one similarity when it comes to wars: before the war there was Always peace...... think about it...

Quote:

Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 20501377)

take a look at the Euro zone countries you will see this is not true:

World Debt Clocks

notice how JUST the EU countries are in hella debt and not for example russia,china,india...its like a game of poker where the USA can not lose because it prints more and more money and the others have to follow suit or leave the game...leaving the game is not an option of course...its like what the tubes did to porn, this is what the USA is doing to the world....printing money and calling themselves "successful" yet even with the printed money they are like 18trillion$ in debt and 100trillion in unfunded liabilities...

I only see 8 Euro countries on that debt clock list... so that list doesn't speak for Europe. Again... Jesus Christ... i never said Euro was not in debt. I said Euro Debts increased dramatically since the Euro-crises. You say it's because of America... because you blame everything on US. I said it's about Greece (and some other shitholes)

I see a patern in you posts...: you only post what supports you view... everything else that contradicts or does not fit your view... you just not mention it. That would make you a bad scientist!


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