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aka123 06-18-2015 03:37 AM
For real; nuclear war wouldn't destroy whole Earth or even humans, but USA and Russia would be quite blasted (if those are the only participants), though probably for example Siberia and Alaska wouldn't be so much blasted.

But maybe Russia would blast whole Europe too, who knows, that was the plan before. Still, Earth is large.

To sum it up: keep your asshole games in your ass. No need to blast big part of Earth because of two fucking countries. Two fucking countries; there are about 200 countries in total.

just a punk 06-18-2015 03:49 AM
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Originally Posted by aka123 (Post 20501370)
For real; nuclear war wouldn't destroy whole Earth or even humans
Massive firestorms will destroy it. Even if not 100% of oxygen will be burnt out, there will be left not enough plants to re-generate the atmosphere + there will be no sun (because of nuclear winter as a result of firestorms) for a rather long time. Long enough to kill flora and fauna.

aka123 06-18-2015 03:53 AM
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Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 20501371)
Massive firestorms will destroy it. Even if not 100% of oxygen will be burnt out, there will be left not enough plants to re-generate the atmosphere + there will be no sun (because of nuclear winter as a result of firestorms) for a rather long time. Long enough to kill flora and fauna.
Nukes are area weapons, not doomsday. Nuke blasts have radius and there will be no fucking firestorms outside that radius (other than possible spread fires). I don't buy even that oxygen depletion thing, even temporarily. Locally maybe (in or near the blast radius).

Or is Russia such asshole country that you plan to nuke every inch on Earth?

pimpmaster9000 06-18-2015 04:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Struggle4Bucks (Post 20501152)
Iran: the people in Iran are so happy with it's government:winkwink:
Iraq: I don't approve what happend in Iraq... that's not the issue here...
But without Sadam you see what a divided shithole it was under the surface of his dictatorship.
Yugoslavia(1918-2003): If you look at the history of the area... you understand that Yugoslavia was never a natural "thing".... You can't blame the West for the different peoples who live in that area wanted to seperate and become independent... and start a war over it...
watch some documentaries over the rise of khomeini in iran...you will understand what a massive failure US foreign policy and its puppet government were, subsequently you will understand how saddam got pulled in to the war and then fucked over...saddam was the USA-s best boy back in the day...

as for yugoslavia you are completely wrong, we lived in peace, the west gave support to actual terrorists, the people got stoked with promises of a better life, and even after than a peace deal was signed by ALL sides, then the fighting miraculously broke out :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

the war was basically the entire world, against the serbian minority in bosnia and croatia, mainland serbia did not take any part in the war, you are left with 2 conclusions:

1) a minority wanted to fight the whole world after they signed a peace deal
2) the USA makes hella money starting wars...

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Originally Posted by Struggle4Bucks (Post 20501152)

We don't have dollars here... we have the euro... Europe doesn't print it's money like FED does for the States... including a debt for every printed dollar. National debts of european countries are nowhere near the level of US debts... Since the euro crisis the debts of many euro countries increased dramatically.... but that's because of Greece... not because of US.
take a look at the Euro zone countries you will see this is not true:

World Debt Clocks

notice how JUST the EU countries are in hella debt and not for example russia,china,india...its like a game of poker where the USA can not lose because it prints more and more money and the others have to follow suit or leave the game...leaving the game is not an option of course...its like what the tubes did to porn, this is what the USA is doing to the world....printing money and calling themselves "successful" yet even with the printed money they are like 18trillion$ in debt and 100trillion in unfunded liabilities...

just a punk 06-18-2015 04:30 AM
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Originally Posted by aka123 (Post 20501372)
Nukes are area weapons, not doomsday. Nuke blasts have radius and there will be no fucking firestorms outside that radius (other than possible spread fires). I don't buy even that oxygen depletion thing, even temporarily. Locally maybe (in or near the blast radius).

Or is Russia such asshole country that you plan to nuke every inch on Earth?
I won't explain you how it works. There are tons of researches and computer models. When Soviets exploded 50 MT bomb, but initially it was planned to explode 100 MT which was technically very easy (actually there is almost no limit for the H-bomb power). Go figure why exactly its power was reduced twice. Now calculate the summary power of all nukes that Russia and the USA have got together... A single ICBM "Сармат" can deliver up to 10-15 nuclear warheads of 800KT each (8MT summary). Use Google already and learn what scenarists say about it. I'm not your teacher.

http://www.nationaldefensemagazine.o...ar-figures.gif

Once again a have a feeling you are a little kid. Have no idea what are you doing on the adult board...

aka123 06-18-2015 04:49 AM
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Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 20501388)
I won't explain you how it works. There are tons of researches and computer models. When Soviets exploded 50 MT bomb, but initially it was planned to explode 100 MT which was technically very easy (actually there is almost no limit for the H-bomb power). Go figure why exactly its power was reduced twice. Now calculate the summary power of all nukes that Russia and the USA have got together... A single ICBM "Сармат" can deliver up to 10-15 nuclear warheads of 800KT each (8MT summary). Use Google already and learn what scenarists say about it. I'm not your teacher.

http://www.nationaldefensemagazine.o...ar-figures.gif

Once again a have a feeling you are a little kid. Have no idea what are you doing on the adult board...
First of all, only small part of the warheads are even operational, you know, those can actually be fired, as you can see from the pic. Secondly, not the whole Earth is targeted as far as I know. Using the whole US and Russia arsenal is just over-nuking the same places. Thus, the fire effects, etc. are limited after it has all burnt up. Nuking the same place doesn't bring the same effect as in the first time. And thirdly, at least for the benefit of non-human life; there are non-sun dependent life on Earth, so even if you put a black dome over Earth, there will still be life. In case there will be such much smoke and dust that it blackens the sky for long periods. Even small amount of humans can live based on that non-sun dependent life if there is just enough oxygen (that you can get from water too if necessary).

just a punk 06-18-2015 05:05 AM
You are so naive my friend, if you think you are smarter than all those scientists who made models of global nuclear war. Let me repeat: Google is your friend - use it sometimes :)

Start with this: 'Nuclear winter' may kill more than a nuclear war - environment - 01 March 2007 - New Scientist

Some more articles for you, if Goggle is not reachable for you:
What would nuclear winter be like? - HowStuffWorks
Climatic Consequences of Nuclear Conflict
https://www.uow.edu.au/~bmartin/pubs/88spp.html
etc..

http://climate.envsci.rutgers.edu/nu...BCabsopred.gif

aka123 06-18-2015 05:19 AM
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Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 20501421)
You are so naive my friend, if you think you are smarter than all those scientists who made models of global nuclear war. Let me repeat: Google is your friend - use it sometimes :)

Start with this: 'Nuclear winter' may kill more than a nuclear war - environment - 01 March 2007 - New Scientist
"A regional exchange of relatively small nuclear weapons could plunge the world into a decade-long "nuclear winter", destroying agriculture and killing millions, according to a new study. "

"By contrast, a regional exchange where adversaries target each others' megacities would ignite huge urban firestorms. Toon calculates the smoke released per kilotonne of explosive yield would be 100 times greater than in the Cold War scenarios."

"This is partly because modern scenarios aim at different targets. Toon says most of the huge US and Russian nuclear warheads are aimed, in a first strike, at missile silos in wilderness or suburban military installations. There is not much to burn, and after the first warhead hits, subsequent explosions do not release much additional smoke."

'Nuclear winter' may kill more than a nuclear war - environment - 01 March 2007 - New Scientist

So, millions dead, but there are billions of people and the later quote says exactly what I said before. Millions dead isn't doomsday. WWII alone killed about 60-80 million people.

Of course it would suck, I am not saying it wouldn't.

directfiesta 06-18-2015 10:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 20501049)

Ever heard of a tail gate party?
... hummm, that sounds pretty gay :2 cents:

MaDalton 06-18-2015 01:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 20501087)
This all started because of a thread where Dalton didn't understand how the f150 pickup could be the number one selling car in the US, yet understood our politics as he always has to chime in with his opinion, I merely pointed out to him that if he couldn't understand why we had pickups, how could he know jack shit about our politics when he doesn't understand the country
Every time i read this i laugh even harder - keep it coming :thumbsup

aka123 06-18-2015 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 20501925)
Every time i read this i laugh even harder - keep it coming :thumbsup
We already know that they are bunch of farmers who love tail gate parties. At least that is what I was told. I am a bit puzzled how this relates to US politics, at least besides farming subsidies.

Struggle4Bucks 06-19-2015 12:33 AM
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Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 20501377)
watch some documentaries over the rise of khomeini in iran...you will understand what a massive failure US foreign policy and its puppet government were, subsequently you will understand how saddam got pulled in to the war and then fucked over...saddam was the USA-s best boy back in the day...

as for yugoslavia you are completely wrong, we lived in peace, the west gave support to actual terrorists, the people got stoked with promises of a better life, and even after than a peace deal was signed by ALL sides, then the fighting miraculously broke out :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

the war was basically the entire world, against the serbian minority in bosnia and croatia, mainland serbia did not take any part in the war, you are left with 2 conclusions:

1) a minority wanted to fight the whole world after they signed a peace deal
2) the USA makes hella money starting wars...



take a look at the Euro zone countries you will see this is not true:

World Debt Clocks

notice how JUST the EU countries are in hella debt and not for example russia,china,india...its like a game of poker where the USA can not lose because it prints more and more money and the others have to follow suit or leave the game...leaving the game is not an option of course...its like what the tubes did to porn, this is what the USA is doing to the world....printing money and calling themselves "successful" yet even with the printed money they are like 18trillion$ in debt and 100trillion in unfunded liabilities...
Pfff i don't have time for this shit... So i would like to keep it on subject: You called Europe vasal states of US. I proofed you're wrong...

Struggle4Bucks 06-19-2015 12:35 AM
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Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 20501363)
LOL, dude ))) That will be the end for a whole Earth. And if you think you will survive, you are a very naive person :winkwink:
You are way too pessimistic... Before Russia will push a button the button will allready be gone...:1orglaugh

Struggle4Bucks 06-19-2015 12:54 AM
Pfff... ok one more time...

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Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 20501377)
watch some documentaries over the rise of khomeini in iran...you will understand what a massive failure US foreign policy and its puppet government were, subsequently you will understand how saddam got pulled in to the war and then fucked over...saddam was the USA-s best boy back in the day...
Jesus Christ... where did i say US did a great job in Iran and Iraq? Where did i say that the whole Iraq war was a war about wmd?????????
Jesus Christ...

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Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 20501377)
as for yugoslavia you are completely wrong, we lived in peace, the west gave support to actual terrorists, the people got stoked with promises of a better life, and even after than a peace deal was signed by ALL sides, then the fighting miraculously broke out :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

the war was basically the entire world, against the serbian minority in bosnia and croatia, mainland serbia did not take any part in the war, you are left with 2 conclusions:

1) a minority wanted to fight the whole world after they signed a peace deal
2) the USA makes hella money starting wars...
There is Always one similarity when it comes to wars: before the war there was Always peace...... think about it...

Quote:
Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 20501377)

take a look at the Euro zone countries you will see this is not true:

World Debt Clocks

notice how JUST the EU countries are in hella debt and not for example russia,china,india...its like a game of poker where the USA can not lose because it prints more and more money and the others have to follow suit or leave the game...leaving the game is not an option of course...its like what the tubes did to porn, this is what the USA is doing to the world....printing money and calling themselves "successful" yet even with the printed money they are like 18trillion$ in debt and 100trillion in unfunded liabilities...
I only see 8 Euro countries on that debt clock list... so that list doesn't speak for Europe. Again... Jesus Christ... i never said Euro was not in debt. I said Euro Debts increased dramatically since the Euro-crises. You say it's because of America... because you blame everything on US. I said it's about Greece (and some other shitholes)

I see a patern in you posts...: you only post what supports you view... everything else that contradicts or does not fit your view... you just not mention it. That would make you a bad scientist!


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