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TheSquealer 06-21-2015 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by wehateporn (Post 20503909)
You've got to be trolling, there's no other explanation, once Farrah Fawcett was diagnosed she immediately began radiation treatment and chemotherapy. If you can't even check one basic fact then there's no hope for the rest of your research, or should I say beliefs

You are confused. She began conventional treatment after her diagnosis AND was then cancer free. (so much for your theory about conventional treatment). Later, she had a recurrence and focused more on natural cures rather than go through the same experience again and she died as a result.

Of course you conveniently ignore that Jobs killed himself with "natural cures" and denial. I could list endless other similar cases but you are too much of a lunatic for it to matter.

[SIZE="7"]Regardlless, you are a fucking cancer yourself.


[*]You are not a doctor
[*]You are not a researcher
[*]You are not an oncologist
[*]You are not an immunologist
[*]YOU ARE NOT QUALIFIED TO HAVE A MEDICAL OPINION ON ANYTHING.

wehateporn 06-21-2015 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Brian837 (Post 20503988)
Ok, my Dad found out he has lung cancer 2 1/2 years ago at stage 4. He went through chemo and last week they said they are done with chemo because it will not do anything more for him.
So you have a cure? How about just making him feel better so he can enjoy what time he has left.

The chemo will have done a lot of damage, especially if he wasn't fasting for the days just before it, it's a lot harder to make a come back after Chemo. Morphine is there to start off the end of life process, it's Euthanasia dressed up as pain relief. If your father still wants to live then here's the advice he requires Lung Cancer or Lung Cancer and Emphysema - Cancer Tutor

wehateporn 06-21-2015 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 20503932)
my belief system is based on scientific proof, yours is based on whacky Youtube videos. I stick to mine.

Your belief system is based on the illusion that there's honest scientific proof which Big Pharma are following

wehateporn 06-21-2015 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 20504000)
You are confused. She began conventional treatment after her diagnosis AND was then cancer free. (so much for your theory about conventional treatment). Later, she had a recurrence and focused more on natural cures rather than go through the same experience again and she died as a result.

You're backtracking now, yes, she used conventional treatment as I said, conventional treatments are Carcinogenic that's why her Cancer soon returned. At that stage she realized to go down the natural route, but it's too late, the Radiotherapy and Chemo had don't their irreparable damage, she would have had to go natural from the start.

huey 06-21-2015 09:01 AM

Lost my stepsister to breast cancer, my step mother to Mesothelioma "lung cancer", my mother to Myeloid leukemia.

Spent hundreds of hours in chemo and leuk wards. Chemo is a nightmare and a savior.

My mother was an OR nurse for 40 years and knew all the ins and outs of western medicine and alternative treatments. Tried both and as in most cases cancer prevails.

We will look back 20 or 30 years from now and I'm sure consider chemo barbaric.

Hope they figure out alternative methods soon.

This best and most thorough documentary I have ever seen on cancer. Looks like they are heading in right direction.

Video: Cancer: The Emperor of All Maladies Trailer | Watch Cancer: The Emperor of All Maladies Online | PBS Video

wehateporn 06-21-2015 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 20504000)
Of course you conveniently ignore that Jobs killed himself with "natural cures" and denial. I could list endless other similar cases but you are too much of a lunatic for it to matter.

He kept himself alive with natural cures, he was meant to be dead a long time earlier, with conventional treatments he would have been lucky to last 2 years

You keep forgetting that not many people survive over 5 years with conventional treatment, for some reason you think conventional treatments actually keep people alive indefinitely, Chemo and Radiotherapy are both clear failures

wehateporn 06-21-2015 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by huey (Post 20504011)
Lost my stepsister to breast cancer, my step mother to Mesothelioma "lung cancer", my mother to Myeloid leukemia.

Spent hundreds of hours in chemo and leuk wards. Chemo is a nightmare and a savior.

My mother was an OR nurse for 40 years and knew all the ins and outs of western medicine and alternative treatments. Tried both and as in most cases cancer prevails.

We will look back 20 or 30 years from now and I'm sure consider chemo barbaric.

Hope they figure out alternative methods soon.

This best and most thorough documentary I have ever seen on cancer. Looks like they are heading in right direction.

Video: Cancer: The Emperor of All Maladies Trailer | Watch Cancer: The Emperor of All Maladies Online | PBS Video

Thanks for that, I'll check it out later

wehateporn 06-21-2015 09:07 AM

I'm not qualified in Big Pharma Propaganda, it's not my religion, I instead go straight to the scientific studies and cut through the BS.

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Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 20504000)
[*]You are not a doctor
[*]You are not a researcher
[*]You are not an oncologist
[*]You are not an immunologist
[*]YOU ARE NOT QUALIFIED TO HAVE A MEDICAL OPINION ON ANYTHING.


wehateporn 06-21-2015 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 20503932)
my belief system is based on scientific proof, yours is based on whacky Youtube videos. I stick to mine.

I'm the only one here who reads through scientific studies as a hobby, keep that in mind

TheSquealer 06-21-2015 09:14 AM

just so it doesn't get lost at the bottom of the previous page

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Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 20503932)
my belief system is based on scientific proof, yours is based on whacky Youtube videos. I stick to mine.

notice he said it... "YOU have a blind trust of authority". When clearly no one has ever said anything about authority, trusting authority of given any indication whatsoever that may be true.

That belief which he holds, is a coping mechanism for himself. It is how he rationalizes the constant chatter in his brain of paranoia and anxiety and fear and the resulting delusions which he uses to rationalize it all.

After all, how would it look to someone who truly believes and understands in their own mind that everyone with money or power is out to get him all the time? He has convinced himself that he has a healthy distrust of authority and can't figure out why everyone else is so easily manipulated and doesn't "get it".

A clue to how severe his problem is can be found not in just what he says, or the fact that he lines up fully behind any conspiracy theory that demonstrates authority/power is evil, bad and wrong and manipulating the masses and only he "see's it"... but really it is about incredible amount of time he spends researching such a massive array of completed disconnected conspiracy theories. He has this chatter in his mind that is ceaseless. I'ts 24/7. It's random and all over the place. His manic searching for studies is an attempt to attach an idea to a feeling of paranoia and anxiety to rationalize it and quiet it. But the chatter doesn't go away and the very simple explanation is that his fight or flight system has broken down and because of how the biochemistry and signaling process works, when it starts misfiring - causing anxiety, panic, fear etc, it continues to spiral out of control.

I think he is possible that he's schizophrenic and that like most schizophrenics, he is fully aware of this fact or at least aware that something is seriously wrong in his interpretation of the world around him.

As one of my favorite authors said...
“science is a smorgasbord, and google will guide you to the study that's right for you.”
― Jonathan Haidt, The Righteous Mind: Why Good People are Divided by Politics and Religion

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If you go back and look at user cam_girls after he bought camgirls.com, he is also schizophrenic (there are a few common types)... but the point is that you only see little clues in flawed reasoning at first. Then you start to see that its not just "misunderstanding" the facts, that its full blown delusion. Only because he was pushed did he finally start talking about him being Adam from the Old Testament (believing he was Adam from the Bible), that the government is reading his brain/broadcasting his thoughts (a common complaint of schizophrenics), that he hears voices - adding that meds don't help because the voices are real and so on and so on.

wehateporn is likely him, without really coming clean yet about the full extent of what he is experiencing and what his symptoms are because he lknows he's different and he knows as well that it just leads to him being ridiculed. Which leaves him the route he's chosen... make insane claims, back them up with weak/flawed/unpublished or published studies... gloat as he reassures himself that "they just don't get it".

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SilentKnight 06-21-2015 09:17 AM

While we're on the topic - anyone know the specific details of what method Eddie Van Halen used to cure his tongue cancer? He used no chemo or radiation.

I listened to his interview on Howard Stern, but he refused to give specifics because the method was apparently "illegal" (in North America, at least). Eddie funded a clinic with a partner in upstate New York that does cancer research and therapy.

Interesting interview on YT from 9 yrs ago.




fiddy cancer cells

TheSquealer 06-21-2015 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by wehateporn (Post 20504021)
I'm the only one here who reads through scientific studies as a hobby, keep that in mind

You are not qualified to have a medical opinion on anything
You are not qualified to give medical advice
You are not a scientist and not even qualified to draw conclusions from a study
You are not a medical professional who specializes in the field of the studies
You are not a doctor
You have no education in medicine
You have no understanding of basic anatomy and physiology, much less the complex biochemistry of the body

and the list goes on and on and on and on.

You clearly need help but conveniently, like most schizphrenics you've rationalized that the only people who could help you are the enemy, are against you, will only hurt you etc.

TheSquealer 06-21-2015 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by wehateporn (Post 20504014)
He kept himself alive with natural cures, he was meant to be dead a long time earlier, with conventional treatments he would have been lucky to last 2 years

You keep forgetting that not many people survive over 5 years with conventional treatment, for some reason you think conventional treatments actually keep people alive indefinitely, Chemo and Radiotherapy are both clear failures

He couldn't cure his cancer "naturally".

He wanted to.

He tried.

He could have easily been saved as his cancer was detected at the earliest possible time.

He ignored all medical advice.

He then later started heading medical advice it when it was too late.

He had organ transplants (apparently trusting those lying doctors and big pharma propaganda)

He then died unnecessarily.

Thanks.

Got it.

That was my point.

TheSquealer 06-21-2015 09:35 AM

And... there are many many types of cancer that work inn different ways. You keep saying "cancer" which in itself demonstrates how completely ignorant you are of the topic.

Further, most are now treatable

And most importantly, risk for most cancer types, comes down largely to diet, exercise and stress management - which you never mention because you are clueless.

wehateporn 06-21-2015 12:09 PM

TheSquealer you've 100% given away that you're trolling so I won't keep feeding you.

TheSquealer 06-21-2015 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by wehateporn (Post 20504150)
TheSquealer you've 100% given away that you're trolling so I won't keep feeding you.

Smart move dumbass.

Sly 06-21-2015 12:22 PM

Which natural remedies cure leukemia?

I know several people that had leukemia (family included) that have essentially been cured using modern medicine. These are cases that are 22+ years old.

wehateporn 06-21-2015 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Sly (Post 20504156)
Which natural remedies cure leukemia?

I know several people that had leukemia (family included) that have essentially been cured using modern medicine. These are cases that are 22+ years old.

Treatments here Leukemia and Myelodysplastic Syndrome (MDS) - Cancer Tutor

Here's how modern medicine gets on, these are the dead within 5 years %'s


wehateporn 06-21-2015 01:20 PM

He had some of his tongue removed and went down the natural route, he doesn't want to get his doctor struck off so he's got to keep it quiet, Big Pharma make it illegal for doctors not do use the mainstream techniques, this is another dirty trick they play, keeping your doctor as a puppet on a string

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Originally Posted by SilentKnight (Post 20504025)
While we're on the topic - anyone know the specific details of what method Eddie Van Halen used to cure his tongue cancer? He used no chemo or radiation.

I listened to his interview on Howard Stern, but he refused to give specifics because the method was apparently "illegal" (in North America, at least). Eddie funded a clinic with a partner in upstate New York that does cancer research and therapy.

Interesting interview on YT from 9 yrs ago.




fiddy cancer cells


CaptainHowdy 06-21-2015 04:42 PM

"If theory could cure"...

TheSquealer 06-21-2015 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by wehateporn (Post 20504173)
He had some of his tongue removed and went down the natural route, he doesn't want to get his doctor struck off so he's got to keep it quiet, Big Pharma make it illegal for doctors not do use the mainstream techniques, this is another dirty trick they play, keeping your doctor as a puppet on a string

So, he immediately resorted to traditional medicine and has the cancer removed. Once it was removed, he "went the natural route"?

You're a funny guy.

MaDalton 06-21-2015 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by wehateporn (Post 20504170)
Treatments here Leukemia and Myelodysplastic Syndrome (MDS) - Cancer Tutor

Here's how modern medicine gets on, these are the dead within 5 years %'s


so what - 50 years ago probably 100% of all of them would have been dead within 5 years

now show me your stats to all these types of cancer and how the survival rates are for people that treated their cancer with Vitamin C and fasting

wehateporn 06-21-2015 04:56 PM

As stated, he avoided the conventional chemo and radiotherapy, went natural instead

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Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 20504269)
So, he immediately resorted to traditional medicine and has the cancer removed. Once it was removed, he "went the natural route"?

You're a funny guy.


wehateporn 06-21-2015 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 20504270)
so what - 50 years ago probably 100% of all of them would have been dead within 5 years

now show me your stats to all these types of cancer and how the survival rates are for people that treated their cancer with Vitamin C and fasting

Depends on the Cancer, some survival rates have improved a lot, others not so much. We have to be careful though, Breast Cancer for example has a lot of false positive detections, so you end up with perfectly healthy people being treated, thereby making the survival rates look better than the reality. Another problem is that because we are detecting the Cancers earlier then the date the survival length starts from is automatically earlier than it would have been previously with a late detection.

The big problem is that Cancer rates are going up, all the vaccines have warnings on them that they are Carcinogenic, X-Rays are Carcinogenic, we're being put on pills that are known to increase Cancer rates, Chemo is Carcinogenic, Radiotherapy is Carcinogenic, Monsanto Round-Up which gets into the food supply is Carcinogenic, the list goes on and on.

Big Pharma are not interested in studying anything which they cannot patent, so you won't be given any official statistics for Vitamin C

TheSquealer 06-21-2015 05:07 PM

Yeah, he went natural by removing the cancer from his body through a conventional surgery/treatment.

Then he didn't have cancer anymore

You are clearly not a genius

wehateporn 06-21-2015 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 20504277)
Yeah, he went natural by removing the cancer from his body through a conventional surgery/treatment.

Then he didn't have cancer anymore

You are clearly not a genius

There was no poisoning involved

wehateporn 06-21-2015 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 20504270)
so what - 50 years ago probably 100% of all of them would have been dead within 5 years

Here's 1975 compared to 2007, as you can see the situation is not changing much, this because the goal posts are in the wrong place, it's not in the interest of Big Pharma to cure Cancer, they would be shooting their industry in the feet. :2 cents:

"In 1975, the incidence rate for all cancers combined in the United States was 400 new cases for every 100,000 people in the population; the mortality rate was 199 deaths for every 100,000 persons. "

"In 2007, the latest year for which we have updated statistics, the U.S. incidence rate for all cancers combined was 461 new cases diagnosed for every 100,000 people in the population; the mortality rate was 178 deaths for every 100,000 persons."

TheSquealer 06-21-2015 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by wehateporn (Post 20504278)
There was no poisoning involved

There was no natural cure involved dipshit.

MaDalton 06-21-2015 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by wehateporn (Post 20504281)
Here's 1975 compared to 2007, as you can see the situation is not changing much, this because the goal posts are in the wrong place, it's not in the interest of Big Pharma to cure Cancer, they would be shooting their industry in the feet. :2 cents:

"In 1975, the incidence rate for all cancers combined in the United States was 400 new cases for every 100,000 people in the population; the mortality rate was 199 deaths for every 100,000 persons. "

"In 2007, the latest year for which we have updated statistics, the U.S. incidence rate for all cancers combined was 461 new cases diagnosed for every 100,000 people in the population; the mortality rate was 178 deaths for every 100,000 persons."

nice how you leave out things that don't suit your agenda

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Although the incidence rate in 2007 was higher than that in 1975, the increase is largely attributed to earlier diagnosis and aging of the population. This rate has been declining since 1992, when cancer incidence peaked at 510 new cases for every 100,000 people. Similarly, cancer death rates have been declining since 1991, when they peaked at 215 deaths for every 100,000 people.
but that's a common thing for whackjobs like you and your pseudo science

overdose 06-21-2015 05:54 PM

marijuana.

ghjghj 06-21-2015 08:25 PM

Babylon.

wehateporn 06-24-2015 02:38 PM

The contribution of cytotoxic chemotherapy to 5-year survival in adult malignancies.

The contribution of cytotoxic chemotherapy to 5-year survival in adult malignancies. - PubMed - NCBI

Conclusion:

"As the 5-year relative survival rate for cancer in Australia is now over 60%, it is clear that cytotoxic chemotherapy only makes a minor contribution to cancer survival. To justify the continued funding and availability of drugs used in cytotoxic chemotherapy, a rigorous evaluation of the cost-effectiveness and impact on quality of life is urgently required."

NewNick 06-24-2015 02:50 PM

I used to get angry and respond to this turd and his bullshit.

Now I have wised up.

I realised you cannot defeat a simpleton with logic.

However I do dispair at the damage that he causes.

Free speece is not all it is cracked up to be.

TheSquealer 06-24-2015 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by wehateporn (Post 20507045)
The contribution of cytotoxic chemotherapy to 5-year survival in adult malignancies.

The contribution of cytotoxic chemotherapy to 5-year survival in adult malignancies. - PubMed - NCBI

Conclusion:

"As the 5-year relative survival rate for cancer in Australia is now over 60%, it is clear that cytotoxic chemotherapy only makes a minor contribution to cancer survival. To justify the continued funding and availability of drugs used in cytotoxic chemotherapy, a rigorous evaluation of the cost-effectiveness and impact on quality of life is urgently required."

And the survival rate is now over 60% because of modern, traditional medicine. And it simply raises the question "now that we have radically improved survival rates, through a variety of means, we need to look at aggressive treatments and their use.

Thank you.

More and more wins for traditional medicine.

I am assuming you are so fucking stupid you see suffix's like "toxic" or terms like "justify their continued use" and cinch up your tinfoil hat because you have no clue what you are reading.


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