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TCLGirls 07-15-2015 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Grapesoda (Post 20524794)
yes and had the south stopped laid down their arms slavery would still be in existence :winkwink:


NEWS FLASH: The South did stop and lay down their arms. :winkwink:

Robbie 07-15-2015 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by crockett (Post 20524573)
Ask yourself this... If The same southern states choose to secede from the United States today do you think the govt would allow it to happen with out military intervention?

Heck no they wouldn't be "allowed" to by the Feds. Too much money at stake.
And yeah, these days it would be nasty if it ever happened. But it won't of course.

By the way, on the subject of slavery...slavery was NOT going to end and wasn't why the civil war was fought.

Slavery was going to be alive and well in any state that already had it.

Ending slavery in all the states wasn't done until the middle of the actual war in 1863 with the "Emancipation Proclamation" and didn't become official until after the war when the U.S. congress with it's new members passed the 13th amendment. The Civil War started in 1861.
And it started when the State Of South Carolina seceded and ordered U.S. troops out of the fort in Charleston.
Fort Sumter was smack dab in the middle of the port of Charleston which was the center of commerce for the state.
When the Union army refused...the South Carolina army attacked.

There were no casualties on either side by the way. The union army surrendered the fort and then politicians from both the southern states and the northern states went ballistic over it and the war started.

Fort Sumter still stands today by the way.
If any of you are ever in Charleston there is a cool boat ride that takes you out to the ruins of the Fort and it has a museum in it as well.
It's a nice way to spend an afternoon in Charleston.

Just Alex 07-15-2015 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20524816)
there is nothing in that article i hadn't already learned while studying the Civil War era in college. and there is nothing in there that contradicts the fact that mechanization created an explosion in slave labor in the South.

I always thought mechanization reduced human labor. We must've been going to different colleges.

dyna mo 07-15-2015 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Just Alex (Post 20524830)
I always thought mechanization reduced human labor. We must've been going to different colleges.

yes we most certainly did attend different learning institutions.

here, i will explain to you what you are not grasping-

a cotton gin does not pick cotton. it separates cotton.

cotton picking was manual labor until the 1940s. to keep up with the speed of the cotton ginS, more slaves were needed to pick cotton.

dyna mo 07-15-2015 03:29 PM

some of my favorite Blues musicians worked much of their life picking cotton and they crafted their art and made music doing it

dyna mo 07-15-2015 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20524800)
However, many experts trace the deaths of more than 600,000 U.S. citizens on Civil War battlefields to an older cause: the cotton gin. This machine revolutionized the process of separating cotton from its seed, making it dramatically faster and less expensive to turn picked cotton into usable cotton for textiles. Eli Whitney invented the gin in 1794, and by 1850 the tool had changed the face of Southern agriculture.

Before Whitney?s gin entered into widespread use, the United States produced roughly 750,000 bales of cotton, in 1830. By 1850 that amount had exploded to 2.85 million bales. This production was concentrated almost exclusively in the South, because of the weather conditions needed for the plant to grow. Faster processing of cotton with the gin meant it was profitable for landowners to establish previously-unthinkably large cotton plantations across the south. But harvesting cotton remained a very labor-intensive undertaking. Thus, bigger cotton farms meant the need for more slaves. The slave population in the United States increased nearly five-fold in the first half of the 19th Century, and by 1860, the South provided about two-thirds of the world?s cotton supply. Southern wealth had become reliant on this one crop and thus was completely dependent on slave-labor.

In terms of understanding what the cotton gin means for Civil War history, the connection to the growth of slavery and its economic centrality for the South is clear. Between the political conflict of the 1820s to 1850s regarding new states and slavery, the election of Lincoln, whom Southerners perceived to be anti-slavery, and the high tariffs imposed on cotton and cotton goods by laws written in the North, the fact that the cotton states of the Deep South chose to secede seems far less surprising.

Civil War History: How the Cotton Gin Contributed to the Civil War

slavery exploded exponentially on account of mechanization.

quoted for those that missed it.

Robbie 07-15-2015 03:44 PM

In South Carolina...it was all about RICE, not cotton believe it or not.
In the "low country" on the coast of South Carolina...it was the biggest producer of rice in the world.

That later went to China. :( But slavery was used in South Carolina for getting rice during that period of history.

I never even knew that until I spent time in Charleston and toured some of the old plantation homes that are still there today and the "Slave Market" in downtown Charleston.

dyna mo 07-15-2015 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 20524841)
In South Carolina...it was all about RICE, not cotton believe it or not.
In the "low country" on the coast of South Carolina...it was the biggest producer of rice in the world.

That later went to China. :( But slavery was used in South Carolina for getting rice.

I never even knew that until I spent time in Charleston and toured some of the old plantation homes that are still there today and the "Slave Market" in downtown Charleston.

cotton production wasn't evenly spread across the South at all.

http://i.imgur.com/9uCQrWa.jpg

dyna mo 07-15-2015 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 20524841)
In South Carolina...it was all about RICE, not cotton believe it or not.
In the "low country" on the coast of South Carolina...it was the biggest producer of rice in the world.

That later went to China. :( But slavery was used in South Carolina for getting rice during that period of history.

I never even knew that until I spent time in Charleston and toured some of the old plantation homes that are still there today and the "Slave Market" in downtown Charleston.

some more interesting info on that, RObbie

The South Carolina planters were, at first, completely ignorant of rice cultivation, and their early experiments with this specialized type of tropical agriculture were mostly failures. They soon recognized the advantage of importing slaves from the traditional rice-growing region of West Africa, and they generally showed far greater interest in the geographical origins of African slaves than did planters in other North American colonies. The South Carolina rice planters were willing to pay higher prices for slaves from the "Rice Coast," the "Windward Coast," the "Gambia," and "Sierra-Leon"; and slave traders in Africa soon learned that South Carolina was an especially profitable market for slaves from those areas. When slave traders arrived in Charlestown with slaves from the rice-growing region, they were careful to advertise their origin on auction posters or in newspaper announcements, sometimes noting that the slaves were "accustomed to the planting of rice." Traders who arrived in Charlestown with slaves from other parts of Africa where rice was not traditionally grown, such as Nigeria, often found that their slaves fetched lower prices. In some cases, they could sell no slaves at all and had to sail away to another port.

The South Carolina and Georgia colonists ultimately adopted a system of rice cultivation that drew heavily on the labor patterns and technical knowledge of their African slaves. During the growing season the slaves on the rice plantations moved through the fields in a line, hoeing rhythmically and singing work songs to keep in unison. At harvest time the women processed the rice by pounding it in large wooden mortars and pestles, virtually identical to those used in West Africa, and then "fanning" the rice in large round winnowing baskets to separate the grain and chaff.

The slaves may also have contributed to the system of sluices, banks, and ditches used on the South Carolina and Georgia rice plantations. West African farmers traditionally cultivated local varieties of wet rice on the flood plains and dry rice on the hillsides. During the 1500s the Portuguese introduced superior types of paddy rice from Asia, and travellers in the 1700s noted that West African farmers?including the Temne of Sierra Leone?were constructing elaborate irrigation systems for rice cultivation. In South Carolina and Georgia the slaves simply continued with many of the methods of rice farming to which they were accustomed in Africa.

South Carolina Rice Plantations

bronco67 07-15-2015 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Grapesoda (Post 20524061)
History books, the media, the school systems, etc abound in falsehoods and inaccuracies of Confederate and Southern history. This fact sheet will help to clarify and dispell some of these rampant inaccuracies.

MYTH - The War of 1861 - 1865 was fought over slavery.

FACT - Terribly untrue. The North fought the war over money. Plain and simple. When the South started Secession, Lincoln was asked, "Why not let the South go in peace?" To which he replied, "I can't let them go. Who would pay for the government?" Sensing total financial ruin for the North, Lincoln waged war on the South. The South fought the War to repel Northern aggression and invasion.


MYTH - Only Southerners owned slaves.

FACT - Entirely untrue. Many Northern civilians owned slaves. Prior to, during and even after the War Of Northern Aggression.

Surprisingly, to many history impaired individuals, most Union Generals and staff had slaves to serve them! William T. Sherman had many slaves that served him until well after the war was over and did not free them until late in 1865.

U.S. Grant also had several slaves, who were only freed after the 13th amendment in December of 1865. When asked why he didn't free his slaves earlier, Grant stated "Good help is so hard to come by these days."

Contrarily, Confederate General Robert E. Lee freed his slaves (which he never purchased - they were inherited) in 1862!!! Lee freed his slaves several years before the war was over, and considerably earlier than his Northern counterparts. And during the fierce early days of the war when the South was obliterating the Yankee armies!

Lastly, and most importantly, why did NORTHERN States outlaw slavery only AFTER the war was over? The so-called "Emancipation Proclamation" of Lincoln only gave freedom to slaves in the SOUTH! NOT in the North! This pecksniffery even went so far as to find the state of Delaware rejecting the 13th Amendment in December of 1865 and did not ratify it (13th Amendment / free the slaves) until 1901!


MYTH - The Confederate Battle Flag was flown on slave ships.

FACT - NONE of the flags of the Confederacy or Southern Nation ever flew over a slave ship. Nor did the South own or operate any slaves ships. The English, the Dutch and the Portugese brought slaves to this country, not the Southern Nation.

BUT, even more monumental, it is also very important to know and understand that Federal, Yankee, Union ships brought slaves to America! These ships were from the New England states, and their hypocrisy is atrocious.

These Federals were ones that ended up crying the loudest about slavery. But without their ships, many of the slaves would have never arrived here. They made countless fortunes on the delivery of slaves as well as the products madefrom raw materials such as cotton and tobacco in the South.

This is the problem with Yankee history History is overwhelmingly portrayed incorrectly by most of the Federal & Yankee books and media.


MYTH - The Confederate Battle Flag represented the Southern Nation.

FACT - Not true. While the Southern Battle flag was carried into battle, the Southern Nation had 3 different National flags during the course of the war.

The First National flag was changed due to a resemblance of the US flag.

The Second National flag was subsequently modified due to the similarity to a flag of truce.

The Third National flag was the adopted flag of the Confederacy.

The Confederate Battle Flag was never a National Flag of the Confederacy. It was carried into battle by several armies such as the Army Of Northen Virginia and the Army of Tennessee. Was also used as a Naval Jack by the Confederate Navy.


MYTH - The Confederate Battle Flag is known as the "Stars & Bars".

FACT - A common misconception. The First National Confederate Flag is correctly known as the "Stars & Bars". The Confederate Battle Flag is known as the "Southern Cross".


MYTH - The Confederate Battle Flag represents racism today.

FACT - The Confederate Battle Flag today finds itself in the center of much controversy and hoopla going on in several states. The cry to take this flag down is unjustified. It is very important to keep in mind that the Confederate Battle Flag was simply just that. A battle flag. It was never even a National flag, so how could it have flown over a slave nation or represented slavery or racism? This myth is continued by lack of education and ignorance. Those that villify the Confederate Battle Flag are very confused about history and have jumped upon a bandwagon with loose wheels.


MYTH - The United States Flag represented freedom.

FACT - No chance. The US flag flew over a slave nation for over 85 years! The North tolerated slavery and acknowledged it as a Division Of Labor. The North made a vast fortune on slavery and it's commodities. It wasn't until the South decided to leave the Union that the North objected. The North knew it could not survive without the Southern money. That is the true definition of hypocrisy.


MYTH - Abraham Lincoln was the Great Emancipator.

FACT - While Lincoln has went down in history as the Great Emancipator, many would not care to hear his real thoughts on people of color. Martyred President Abraham Lincoln was fervently making plans to send all freed slaves to the jungles of Central America once the war was over. Knowing that African society would never allow the slaves to return back to Africa, Lincoln also did not want the slaves in the US. He thought the jungles of Central America would be the best solution and conducive to the freed slaves best interest. The only thing that kept this from happening, was his assassination.


MYTH - The South revered slavery.

FACT - A very interesting fact on slavery is that at the time the War of 1861 -1865 officially commenced, the Southern States were actually in the process of freeing all slaves in the South. Russia had freed it's servants in 1859, and the South took great note of this. Had military intervention not been forced upon the South, a very different America would have been realized then as well as now.



MYTH - The Confederate Army was comprised of rich slave owners.

FACT - Very far from true. The vast majority of soldiers in the Confederate Army were simple men of meager income. Most of which were hard working farmers and common men. Then, as now, very few rich men ever fight a war.


MYTH - Only the North had men of color in their ranks.

FACT - Quite simply a major falsehood of history. Many blacks, both free and of their own will, joined the Confederate Army to fight for their beloved Southern home. Additionally, men of other ethnic extraction fought as well. Oriental, Mexican & Spanish men as well as Native American Indians fought with pride for the South.

Today, many men of color are members in the heritage group SCV - Sons Of Confederate Veterans. These men of color and pride rejoice in their heritage. The continued attacks on the Southern Nation, The Confederacy, and her symbols are a terrible outrage to these fine people. These attacks should be denounced with as much fervor as those who denounce the South.


MYTH - The Confederate Flags are an authorized symbol of Aryan, KKK and hate groups.

FACT - Quite the contrary. These dispicable organizations such as the KKK and Aryans have taken a hallowed piece of history, and have plagued good Southern folks and the memories of fine Confederate Soldiers that fought under the flag with their perverse agenda. IN NO WAY does the Confederate Flag represent hate or violence. Heritage groups such as the SCV battle daily the damage done to a proud nation by these hate groups. The SCV denounces all hate groups, and pridefully boast HERITAGE - NOT HATE.





MYTH - The SCV - Sons Of Confederate Veterans are a racist, hate group.

FACT - This is a blatant attack on one of the finest heritage groups ever. The SCV - Sons Of Confederate Veterans are a historical, patriotic and non-political organization comprised of descendents of Confederate Soldiers and sailors dedicated to insuring that a true history of the 1861 -1865 period is preserved and presented to the public. The SCV continues to educate the public of the memory and reputation of the Confederate soldier as well as the motives for his suffering and sacrifice.

The SCV - Sons Of Confederate Veterans are in NO WAY affiliated with, nor does it recognize or condone the terrible legacy of hate groups such as the KKK.

So all this makes you....not racist?

TCLGirls 07-15-2015 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by bronco67 (Post 20524847)
So all this makes you....not racist?

Apparently, the cut & paster is not one of the "sheeple"..LOL

crockett 07-15-2015 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Grapesoda (Post 20524797)
you do know there were draft riots in the north, the invasion of the south was not really that popular

Yes.. Hence the reason they used the moral high ground as an excuse to fight the south..

Grapesoda 07-15-2015 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by TCLGirls (Post 20524866)
Apparently, the cut & paster is not one of the "sheeple"..LOL

actually I was learning some interesting stuff and everyone EXCEPT you and bronco76 was civil and cordial with interesting info and positive opinions to add... well dynamo got a bit butt hurt... he's a bit tense though... no biggie...

I already knew that you were petty and low quality with nothing positive to add to anything :2 cents:

TCLGirls 07-15-2015 05:03 PM

Apparently, writing "loudmouth stupidity of the sheepeople" is not an example pettiness or low quality prose. LOL

Grapesoda 07-15-2015 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by TCLGirls (Post 20524882)
Apparently, writing "loudmouth stupidity of the sheepeople" is not an example pettiness or low quality prose. LOL

that put there to keep the bm's out... worked too.. guess your pettiness and low quality was able to breach the gate :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh (aren't you the bicycle builder?)

TCLGirls 07-15-2015 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Grapesoda (Post 20524885)
that put there to keep the bm's out... worked too.. guess your pettiness and low quality was able to breach the gate :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh (aren't you the bicycle builder?)



Apparently "that put there" is also not low quality rhetoric...lol.

GFED 07-15-2015 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by crockett (Post 20524561)
I never said the South didn't fire the first shoots.. I said the war wouldn't of happened over slavery. If the south had stayed a part of the Union, there wouldn't of been a war just because of slavery..

IE.. The war wasn't over slavery but rather because the south's secession from the Union. Slavery was the excuse used to gain support by the north so they could claim the moral high ground over fighting former countrymen.

The people with the money write history.

TCLGirls 07-15-2015 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Grapesoda (Post 20524885)
that put there to keep the bm's out... worked too.. guess your pettiness and low quality was able to breach the gate :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh (aren't you the bicycle builder?)

Oh you wanna go personal now?

So I am sure you would not mind discussing your time immediately following Sister Sister and your past interviews now would you?

dyna mo 07-15-2015 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Grapesoda (Post 20524880)
actually I was learning some interesting stuff and everyone EXCEPT you and bronco76 was civil and cordial with interesting info and positive opinions to add... well dynamo got a bit butt hurt... he's a bit tense though... no biggie...

I already knew that you were petty and low quality with nothing positive to add to anything :2 cents:

heads-up, you set the tone, attitude and spirit of this thread, grapesoda. and if there were a most racist persona contest here, you'd be in that race, not me. so let's not try and disguise your persona's tone and attitude towards the subject matter

and as per usual, i refer to others as others refer to me.

what you are mistaking for butthurt is simply my speaking to you in the manner you are to me.

Grapesoda 07-15-2015 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20524902)
heads-up, you set the tone, attitude and spirit of this thread, grapesoda. and if there were a most racist persona contest here, you'd be in that race, not me. so let's not try and disguise your persona's tone and attitude towards the subject matter

and as per usual, i refer to others as others refer to me.

what you are mistaking for butthurt is simply my speaking to you in the manner you are to me.

actually you were very civil with me in this thread... don't remember who you got 'tense' with.... here ....:thumbsup

https://atebyatescrapbooking.files.w...1/dscn0349.jpg

Grapesoda 07-15-2015 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by TCLGirls (Post 20524894)
Oh you wanna go personal now?

So I am sure you would not mind discussing your time immediately following Sister Sister and your past interviews now would you?

okay this is just scifi... you're offended because I remembered you posted images of bicycles you were building... :helpme

small bit of advice.... in the future be best not to post things that you get offended about I guess... :winkwink:

the actors and crew on sister/sister were possibly the nicest people I ever worked with, I did get injured on set and I was on disability for 2 years until I was declared permanent and stationary (I think that's the term, don't really remember)

I did lose everything and I was about 6 months away from be vested in the union, so no benefits there... a very stressful time for me no doubt... :2 cents:

I did turn down disability and food stamps and all that stuff and I did work 80+ hours a week teaching myself to shoot and edit stills and video for 10 years or more to get where I am....

in fact didn't even have a TV for 10 years and slept on the floor because 1 bedroom was my office and other bedroom was used for content production, in fact the entire apt was used for content production...

am I ashamed of that??? not really... am I suppose to be?

BTW I've never posted any interviews with myself on GFY although for some reason they pop up now and then by people trying to belittle me (like now apparently) not really sure why??????


and I do remember your photography.... you were shooting some blond girl if I remember correctly... I did make corrective comments about your composition if you're the guy I remember.... here have this... unwind a bit :thumbsup

https://atebyatescrapbooking.files.w...1/dscn0349.jpg

TCLGirls 07-15-2015 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Grapesoda (Post 20524974)
okay this is just scifi... you're offended because I remembered you posted images of bicycles you were building... :helpme

small bit of advice.... in the future be best not to post things that you get offended about I guess... :winkwink:

the actors and crew on sister/sister were possibly the nicest people I ever worked with, I did get injured on set and I was on disability for 2 years until I was declared permanent and stationary (I think that's the term, don't really remember)

I did lose everything and I was about 6 months away from be vested in the union, so no benefits there... a very stressful time for me no doubt... :2 cents:

I did turn down disability and food stamps and all that stuff and I did work 80+ hours a week teaching myself to shoot and edit stills and video for 10 years or more to get where I am....

in fact didn't even have a TV for 10 years and slept on the floor because 1 bedroom was my office and other bedroom was used for content production, in fact the entire apt was used for content production...

am I ashamed of that??? not really... am I suppose to be?

BTW I've never posted any interviews with myself on GFY although for some reason they pop up now and then by people trying to belittle me (like now apparently) not really sure why??????


and I do remember your photography.... you were shooting some blond girl if I remember correctly... I did make corrective comments about your composition if you're the guy I remember.... here have this... unwind a bit :thumbsup


Who said I was offended? Just saying that you're the one who brought up irrelevant non-adult personal issues. If you really wanna go there, then surely you will not mind a discussion about what you do outside the adult industry right?

brentbacardi 07-15-2015 07:48 PM

Doesn't matter if its racist, not racist, awesome or dull. If you think it should be banned you are not for free speech as, free speech is an absolute. Maybe you are for "mostly free speech" but you certainly are not for free speech. If you aren't for free speech you are a fascist fuck head. Your good intentions are meaningless, you are still a fascist fuck head. :P

Grapesoda 07-15-2015 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by TCLGirls (Post 20524977)

Who said I was offended? Just saying that you're the one who brought up irrelevant non-adult personal issues. If you really wanna go there, then surely you will not mind a discussion about what you do outside the adult industry right?

if I did anything... :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh... I have no personal life really... working 80+ hours week gets you a career but little else.... usually I sleep for a few days when not working...

many people are jealous of my business however no one is willing to put in the effort I have ...and many seem to think I sit up here in the estate and fuck girls and party... not even true by any means...

best part of my day is hitting the Jacquie at 4:10 am for 30 min, drinking coffee and goofing around with my dog.... then I edit until about 8am, work out for a bit or take a walk with the dog.... get cleaned up and shoot... in the evenings I edit or watch TV with the dog... lately true crime... that's my life outside of adult...

I have tried to start a few other business, none have worked to this point... so I just keep trying, it's what I do... I persist :thumbsup

and you're one that posted the non adult related images ... I merely remembered :2 cents:

TCLGirls 07-15-2015 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Grapesoda (Post 20524980)
if I did anything... :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh... I have no personal life really... working 80+ hours week gets you a career but little else.... usually I sleep for a few days when not working...

many people are jealous of my business however no one is willing to put in the effort I have ...and many seem to think I sit up here in the estate and fuck girls and party... not even true by any means...

best part of my day is hitting the Jacquie at 4:10 am for 30 min, drinking coffee and goofing around with my dog.... then I edit until about 8am, work out for a bit or take a walk with the dog.... get cleaned up and shoot... in the evenings I edit or watch TV with the dog... lately true crime... that's my life outside of adult...

I have tried to start a few other business, none have worked to this point... so I just keep trying, it's what I do... I persist :thumbsup

and you're one that posted the non adult related images ... I merely remembered :2 cents:


Oh so I guees you don't mind anyone posting your name and line of non-adult work here right?

Grapesoda 07-15-2015 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by brentbacardi (Post 20524979)
Doesn't matter if its racist, not racist, awesome or dull. If you think it should be banned you are not for free speech as, free speech is an absolute. Maybe you are for "mostly free speech" but you certainly are not for free speech. If you aren't for free speech you are a fascist fuck head. Your good intentions are meaningless, you are still a fascist fuck head. :P

this is also my opinion about the issue of the flag...

personally I don't think a flag of honor ever belongs anywhere near a politician... and that's what St Andrews cross is.. a battle flag... a lot of honorable men died with that flag, defending their homes and families and they deserve the respect due to them.

just like the marine corp flag and that doesn't belong on a government building either...

I think the battle flag should have been pulled down with honor and respect, not in front of a jeering crowd ... reminded me of the Arabs all laughing about 911.... definite low quality peeps for sure.. :2 cents:

dyna mo 07-15-2015 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Grapesoda (Post 20524967)
actually you were very civil with me in this thread... don't remember who you got 'tense' with.... here ....:thumbsup

https://atebyatescrapbooking.files.w...1/dscn0349.jpg

that time in history is one of my favorite subjects. not claiming i'm an expert, but certainly far from tense about the subject matter. you mentioned in your post that i was butthurt, i'm not.

but going by your op, the myth/myth busted sound bites of history to claim that the confederate flag is universally fine and dandy and if you think otherwise, you're a loudmouth stupid sheeple, shows you weren't really interested in conversing with like-minded others re: a topic we're all fascinated by, you have something to prove here about the flag.

Grapesoda 07-15-2015 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by TCLGirls (Post 20524984)

Oh so I guees you don't mind anyone posting your name and line of non-adult work here right?

didn't I say once before I don't want my name posted...??? so it would be you and Donny and jimthecunt or whatever his name is, you'll be in stellar company that's for sure... and the line of non adult work???

I'll remind you once again, YOU posted the bike images... if you don't want people to know you build bikes do NOT post pics telling people you build bikes... seems pretty simple to me :helpme

if I start a non adult biz and feel the need to post it at GFY I will do so, thanks

Grapesoda 07-15-2015 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20524988)
that time in history is one of my favorite subjects. not claiming i'm an expert, but certainly far from tense about the subject matter. you mentioned in your post that i was butthurt, i'm not.

but going by your op, the myth/myth busted sound bites of history to claim that the confederate flag is universally fine and dandy and if you think otherwise, you're a loudmouth stupid sheeple, shows you weren't really interested in conversing with like-minded others re: a topic we're all fascinated by, you have something to prove here about the flag.

so.... you're not butt hurt then???? you didn't drink the hot milk did you??? :(

TCLGirls 07-15-2015 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Grapesoda (Post 20524989)
didn't I say once before I don't want my name posted...??? so it would be you and Donny and jimthecunt or whatever his name is, you'll be in stellar company that's for sure... and the line of non adult work???

I'll remind you once again, YOU posted the bike images... if you don't want people to know you build bikes do NOT post pics telling people you build bikes... seems pretty simple to me :helpme

if I start a non adult biz and feel the need to post it at GFY I will do so, thanks


I never said I do not want people to know I build bikes.

HELLO EVERYONE, yes I build bikes.

What you can't seem to understand is the fact that I build bikes is absolutely irrelevant to the topic of this thread. And since you think its fine and dandy to introduce irrelvant topics here, then you should have no problem with an irrelevant discussion regarding your line of work outside the adult industry...and would not fear being "outed" in the community...right?

Grapesoda 07-15-2015 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by TCLGirls (Post 20524993)
I never said I do not want people to know I build bikes.

HELLO EVERYONE, yes I build bikes.

What you can't seem to understand is the fact that I build bikes is absolutely irrelevant to the topic of this thread. And since you think its fine and dandy to introduce irrelvant topics here, then you should have no problem with an irrelevant discussion regarding your line of work outside the adult industry...and would not fear being "outed" in the community...right?

ousted in the community??? like Donny long did to ama joe???? you're losing me.... I ask if you're the guy that builds bikes for a frame of reference for who you are, then from that I remember that you were the guy shooting a blond girl and you start acting like some kind of a fucking nut-job... confronting me on my life outside of adult.. .. straight up bizarre

dyna mo 07-15-2015 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Grapesoda (Post 20524991)
so.... you're not butt hurt then???? you didn't drink the hot milk did you??? :(

i easily shift gears among the threads i post in. currently lolling it up in the dyna president thread. i go with the tone and flow of the thread and how those in it treat me.

Grapesoda 07-15-2015 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20524998)
i easily shift gears among the threads i post in. currently lolling it up in the dyna president thread. i go with the tone and flow of the thread and how those in it treat me.

well gee whiz I'll never post that you're butt hurt again :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

JFK 07-15-2015 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 20524547)
crockett you're getting the verbiage a little confusing.

It's not succeeded or sucession.

It's secede and secession :) Just a quick grammar police moment.

:thumbsup:thumbsup

brentbacardi 07-15-2015 08:16 PM

Does the confederate flag mean yay slavery? Did Abraham Lincoln give a shit about slaves? Well you can argue about the gray area all you want. If you think people today waving the confederate flag are for slavery you are a moron. They absolutely are not. Have you ever talked to any of them about why they wave it? I am a northerner who has moved south and used to think they were racist but don't now that I have met many flag wavers.

For the fourth of july they had like 50 confederate flags up and people yelling fuck the federal government, they can't tell us what to do. Nobody mentioned slavery at all. People were saying things like "How dare they not allow us to legalize pot" and "Fuck federal taxes" ... has nothing to do with slaves as far as I can tell... and Abraham Lincoln was not some slave freedom fighter, read his quotes, it was absolutely last on his list of things to do.

Just Alex 07-15-2015 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20524832)
yes we most certainly did attend different learning institutions.

here, i will explain to you what you are not grasping-

a cotton gin does not pick cotton. it separates cotton.

cotton picking was manual labor until the 1940s. to keep up with the speed of the cotton ginS, more slaves were needed to pick cotton.

Must have different majors too. I was Computer Science. What part of Liberal Arts program did you do?
So what happened after slavery? Who picked the cotton up until 1940's? The Chinese? Same people who built railroads and coal mines?

dyna mo 07-15-2015 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Just Alex (Post 20525026)
Must have different majors too. I was Computer Science. What part of Liberal Arts program did you do?
So what happened after slavery? Who picked the cotton up until 1940's? The Chinese? Same people who built railroads and coal mines?

gofuckyourself.

TCLGirls 07-15-2015 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Grapesoda (Post 20524997)
ousted in the community??? like Donny long did to ama joe???? you're losing me.... I ask if you're the guy that builds bikes for a frame of reference for who you are, then from that I remember that you were the guy shooting a blond girl and you start acting like some kind of a fucking nut-job... confronting me on my life outside of adult.. .. straight up bizarre

Now you are just being intellectually dishonest. First of all, my building bikes has nothing to do with any of my original responses to you in this thread, so there's no reason to be seeking a "frame of reference". Secondly, if you were merely curious about my hobby outside the adult industry, you could have simply PM'ed me. But no, you decided it was appropriate to make an irrelevant post about me and my hobby. Yet you yourself get your panties in a bunch when people reference irrelevant subjects like your real name claiming that doing so threatens your family. Pure hypocrisy. (No I won't publicly mention your real name or what you do, not because I have any respect for you, but because I won't stoop to that level of discourse.)

dyna mo 07-15-2015 09:16 PM

i've got a minor in CS along with my major- classic military history from UC Berkeley.

graduated 96.

i started off there studying CS, but realized i didn't go to college to get specific tech education, i went to college to learn how to learn. i don't recollect specifically, but i was prolly 8-10 courses away from getting the CS degree as well. CAL was tough though. rigorous.

gofuckyourself.

dyna mo 07-15-2015 09:25 PM

you've got me nostalgic for my college days, just alex.

i remember this CS course was insane and my introduction to how hard college was going to be.

any CS nerds here that studied it in the 90s should know this textbook, the fantastic "Structure and Interpretation of Computer Programming" by Abelman and Sussman


http://i.imgur.com/jexCMLJ.jpg

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Structure and Interpretation of Computer Programs (SICP) is a textbook aiming to teach the principles of computer programming, such as abstraction in programming, metalinguistic abstraction, recursion, interpreters, and modular programming.

It is widely considered a classic text in computer science, and is colloquially known as the wizard book, due to the wizard on the jacket.

It was first published in 1985 by MIT Press and written by Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT) professors Harold Abelson and Gerald Jay Sussman, with Julie Sussman. It was formerly used as the textbook of MIT introductory programming class and at other schools.

Before SICP, the introductory courses were almost always filled with learning the details of some programming language, while SICP focuses on finding general patterns from specific problems and building software tools that embody each pattern.
i was fortunate enough to be enrolled in this year long course when Julie Sussman, one of the authors was a visiting professor and taught it! nice right? :thumbsup

oh, and they taught it in 1 semester at MIT though, not 2 like at CAL!! but those guys well, MIT guys, you know.


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