Charles will never be king, Harry hasn't got a wife and they are all British by birthright - What are you talking about?..

yup, indeed, it enriched Her Hitlers coffers tremedously:2 cents:

From your posts over several years I'd come to think that you're a smart and thoughtful person. Your comments in this thread have completely changed my mind. The monarchy are not just a bunch of "inbred rich people" but part of the fabric of British social and political life.

Full disclosure: I was born and grew up in London, but have lived in the US for 30+ years. I'm neither a monarchist or a republican, but a pragmatist, and have come to the conclusion that the monarchy works as a part of the British political system.

yesterday some guy came up to me here and said heil hitler...did the salute and then walked away.
crazy as a fox

Heil!

or

Hei!

You, AdultKing, **********, Strap On Princess and DukeSkywalker should all get a room :winkwink:

Actually, that would make for a great Big Brother! :upsidedow

I expected to see something more!

Whoever loses the war will always be made to look evil as their rivals get to write history

hel to the queen! hehe lol :1orglaugh

maybe george and charlotte are wearing burka at home? :)

I think they know how to write and can write in Germany too if you imply that. Finland was part of the same peace treaty (axis(h) side) and sure as hell I can write. Though we weren't occupied at any stage as we didn't lose in that sense, just harsh peace terms.

You have pretty naive picture about who writes history and what kind of history. Even the pharaohs in Egypt tried to erase all kind of things, but we still know their rivals in good and bad. And the historic sources from that time are much more limited than for example from WWII. You know; writings, photos, sound records, videos, witnesses, etc. There are shitloads of those.

But sure, illuminati writes everything; I just wonder why they didn't erase the whole WWII? Just write: "peace always; embrace illuminati".

War is an important way to make changes in the world, the history of war is particularly important e.g. "We need to do this because..."

What they need war for? "We need to do this for the love of illuminati." or "For our own benefit." Anyways, some entity that rules everything; what it needs war for? Rulers can make and make changes everyday and peacefully.

By the way; from where I can order the official history book that is written by winners, etc.? You know, that I don't accidentally buy something written by losers.

It's very hard for our rulers to make changes in the world, the citizens don't like changes, during times of war you can make huge changes, then the rulers use the history of war to make sure that the changes don't get reversed

Sounds like lame rulers. Are you sure they are rulers in the first place?

So, what huge changes were done during WWII? Other than some geographical changes? The only persistent change that comes into my mind is Japan's military restrictions to those they still tend to cling to, at least to recent times (they are about to change few things now).

I'm surprised so many people didn't know the British Royal Family is filled with German bloodlines, seriously INBRED bloodlines - Queen Victoria married her first cousin a German prince from the House of Saxe Coburg, her own mother was a German from the same royal house, Victoria was a member of the House of Hanover, yet another German royal house. All the royal families of Europe including Russia intermarried/interbred - no doubt it's one of the reasons they're all so dumb. I'd have to see the whole lineage chart - they might be more German than English.

Anyway, Hitler liked Great Britain, he was so batshit nuts that he thought Great Britain would ally itself with him, he couldn't understand why not, it made no sense to him. He was genuinely butthurt. Even after he attacked Britain he thought they'd come to an agreement rather than remain enemies.

I really don't know what the rest of Europe thought of Hitler, I think they really didn't want to know, he was the weirdo next door neighbor you hear in his garage in the middle of the night banging and sawing away that you really don't want to know what he's up to, you just want him to keep to himself and avoid contact with him if you can help it.
They willfully chose to remain ignorant, meanwhile he was building the world's greatest war machine right under their noses. Germany according to the terms of the Treaty of Versailles was forbidden to re-arm itself, prohibited from having an air force, submarines, battleships - completely neutered because the Allies feared Germany would start shit up again and soon, which of course they did.

You don't think Stalin throwing an iron curtain over the entirety of Eastern Europe was a HUGE change? You don't think the creation of Israel was a HUGE change? You don't think the dropping of the atomic bomb was HUGE? The immediate onset of the Cold War with the world fearing nuclear armageddon?

The matter wasn't about change per se. And I already excluded geographical changes from the question (as those are obvious) and even most of those don't apply anymore. And some Israel stuff isn't huge. Tiny plot on the coast of Mediterranean.

The issue was that some illuminati, etc. used WWII to change world persistently. You know, permanent social changes or even significant geographical changes. In the end, there is not really that much changes those have lasted. Russia was there before WWII, after WWII and is still there. Maybe Americans did learn that there is some country as Russia, but it sure as hell wasn't news around here. We have fought against Russia and Soviet Union. So, we have had rather warm wars too.

Made to look evil ?

I think the millions that died in the camps might suggest that the Nazis were just a little bit over zealous.

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I fail to understand what the excitement about this is. At one point, Hitler was Time's "Man Of The Year". His houses were featured in magazines.

Vaporizing entire cities with atomic bombs was of course...wait for it..."To Save Lives!" :thumbsup

There really shouldn't be any excitement or interest in this, but people forget their history. It's just a stupid newspaper trying to sell newspapers and clicks.

:2 cents::2 cents::2 cents:

Two types of Brits:

The first is merely ignorant so I write chaps like that off. :) But Marcocop is the other kind, the type of Brit who, in his heart, will always be British even tho he's been in America over 30 years.

Marcocop: I have no idea if you're an American citizen but it's this kind of blind loyalty to an ancient, outdated and oppresive form of Government (Monarchies) that offends me as an American. In fact, it's this type if immigration that bothers me; in the past, immigrants wanted to assimilate into American society. Now? No matter how long they are here, or where they are from, in their hearts they are not truly American. No American would say a Monarchy 'works'.

Now here's the facts (thanks Mutt, I didn't feel like writing it all out before):

I AM a thoughtul, intelligent person who knows history. The British monarchy, aside from being inbreds, were one of the cruelest regimes ever known upon this Esrth. Cruel, heartless monsters who crushed and subjugated India, Asia and yes, America. So I am not a fan of ANY brutal Monarchy, and when I see the British people cumming all over themselves for their Royals it reminds me of all the Southerners here who get a hardon for Robert E. Lee.

Sorry, but that's my opinion. We here in America are allowed to express our opinions whereas in most of the former British Empire days if you disagreed with the Monarchy you were shot.

Having said all this I generally like British people (except when they get together to drink or get into their endless prattle about Manchester U vs. Chelsea).

:thumbsup:1orglaugh

I couldn't care less what the royal retards do. They are merely figureheads. I don't see why the English would have foreigners of German ancestory as their monarch.

Are we really surprise they may be racist, they are murderers after all.
The only "royal" that was respectable was the people's princess Diana and the royal family murdered her.

Trolling at it's best. Subtle, with just enough truth in it's broad perspective to appear legitimate. I salute you sir!







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how is 'history goes to the victors' trolling? we don't really talk about the firebombings or what happened to the 4 million prisoners we had

story seems bullshitty however, since the US was doing the Bellamy Salute which is based on the same roman origin

Whether you talk about firebombings or not, it is known history; written in the books. The subject is very familiar to me and it is discussed in many documentaries.

I don't know about your 4 million prisoners? What prisoners? Where? Civilian Japs? Germans? At least latter ones were released after the war. From Soviet Union a tad later, latest ones (at least most of them who still alive) at 60's when East Germany did deal with USSR. Half of the prisoners initially captured died in captivity in USSR.

EDIT: East Germany and USSR did the deal at 50's not 60's. Fucking typo.

they probably was in good times back in 1933

Not to mention he was actually quite the looker if one is trueful! :thumbsup

I know that I would not have said "no" and that would have been a night to remember!

Say what you will about the man but I bet he was packing one big cock.

man oh man, now I know how Americans must feel when UK people stumble into a gun thread.

note to self: you'll never understand a culture if you aren't part of it.

german pow is what i was referring to, sorry

Haha! Good point!! :)

Bangers and mash anyone? Breakfast time here.....:)

of course. anybody that claims history goes to the victors is an abject failure at studying and understanding history, likely a failure at everything, based on who here thinks that makes sense.

not necessarily true, however it is usually the dumbest who chirp the loudest on such matters ie this thread...