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If you are laughing because US is some "North-Korea" and thus my question very odd, I don't get what is the funny part in it. |
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And based on your messages; you don't even know where I stand. Well, I haven't exactly said where I stand, so you have filled gaps with your imagination. Why you post that stuff? Why you post those links? Why? Don't you think I read news? What are you trying to prove to me? |
and the question was ?
"So, it would be fool to think that governments aren't doing what? Exactly?" ? I really dont understand you man :) Quote:
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i'd rother not have mass surveillance.
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So, it would be fool to think that governments aren't doing what? Exactly? That is very broad question, but yet no answer. Shouldn't be that hard. Let me give example: "It would be fool to think that governments aren't painting kittens as pink." If you don't yet get it, that question was counterargument for presenting vague "accusations". I know very well that Bladewire meant spying, manipulation, etc., but he didn't say it, excluding that redirecting stuff. Leave that vague stuff for Whateporn. He can say just "government" and we know that by that he means aliens, lizards, illuminati and that sort. But in generally it is good to say more than just "government" and to expect that everyone nods their heads approving. |
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People who say they have nothing to hide, it's not about being innocent or guilty of anything, it's about social manipulation of the worst kind. Your privacy is important so you can be manipulated less. End of story. -------- The UK intelligence agency GCHQ has developed sophisticated tools to manipulate online polls, spam targets with SMS messages, track people by impersonating spammers and monitor social media postings, according to newly-published documents leaked by NSA whistleblower Edward Snowden. SOURCE SOURCE https://firstlook.org/wp-uploads/sit...creenshot3.png https://firstlook.org/wp-uploads/sit...creenshot4.png https://firstlook.org/wp-uploads/sit...creenshot2.png https://firstlook.org/wp-uploads/sit...reenshot13.png https://firstlook.org/wp-uploads/sit...eption_p11.png https://firstlook.org/wp-uploads/sit...eption_p12.png https://firstlook.org/wp-uploads/sit...reenshot14.png https://firstlook.org/wp-uploads/sit...eption_p47.png |
"monitor social media postings"
"I" have done (automated service). To track posts with certain brand name(s). "to make automated postings on several of the social networks." Many people on this forum do like this. My point is that these sort of things are not so extraordinary things after all. It depends how those are used. GCHQ has tools to manipulate online information, leaked documents show | UK news | The Guardian |
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It really depends about the methods whether I see it as a problem or not, and by who does it. In here any secret service than our own is bad guy if it spies us. Merican agents may be heroes in movies, but in here they are criminals. Unless it is some co-op with our government. So I can agree straight away that spying by US or UK is problem in here. Though Russia's spies are the biggest problem and newly China's. |
for gods sake. I spent 10 minutes of my life, selecting for you few dozens most important docs from 100's of them.
If you would spend at least 10 seconds of your life to read any first few links that I posted, you wouldnt post the same shit every post. Why the hell I posted these links ? jeezus fucking christ:helpme:helpme:helpme Quote:
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yeah, I hear you, some people though probably wouldnt even notice flashing 100 Watt lightbulb in front of their eyes....:winkwink:
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Monitoring phone calls for keywords? 9/11 happened because we weren't looking hard enough. The flip side of the coin is the bad guys get ahead. |
911 is a convenient excuse, they were doing it long before.
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They do it to avoid revolution.
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there is a difference between targeted surveillance (bad guys) and MASS surveilance.
bad guys are already known to police and secret services in 99 % of cases. so why not to target just them ? 9/11 happened because we weren't looking hard enough. actually I think its quite the opposite. just like anthrax mails in US that were failed false glag operation. Quote:
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