true, businessmen don't have enough experience at being corrupt liars, any politician is better in that field

fucking trump he is jacking me up like cocaine, man! i cant believe that there is a republican candidate that is pro-trade war & is rich enough to not get bought off that position. this guy is fuckin reagan reincarnate.

But alas im a cynic. if he's on the edge of winning, he's gonna get shot. The clintons will not be denied again, ask vince foster.

:winkwink:

It's going to be difficult. Because even if Trump wins the popular vote in any given State, he has to convince each of those states' electoral college voters to also vote for him. Those electoral college members are not bound to vote for the candidate who wins the popular vote. For example, California has 55 electoral college member slots. They are not bound to vote for Trump, even if he wins the popular vote in California.

And the electoral college is comprised of party members, who are appointed by their respective political parties. So if Trump wins a state as a GOP candidate, he also has to convince the GOP established party in those States he wins to also vote for him...the same party his is pissing off right now.

This rarely ever happens. Trump has much bigger worries on his plate than to worry that the electoral college won't vote for him if he wins the popular vote.

Right now he is riding high and seems to be gaining momentum. But lets remember these polls only reflect registered republicans which only make up about 25% of the vote.

Like all candidates if Trump gets the nomination he now has to figure out how to get the moderate independents to vote for him.

As I have said many times the winner of the next election will be the candidate that can get the minorities and young people to vote for them. The odds of Trump winning the popular vote and the electoral college choosing to vote against him are microscopic.

The electoral college members are voted in after pledging their candidate, which is the guy representing their party running for president. If trump is the candidate then they are pledged to vote for him. Rare exceptions to that

The CNN poll today was republicans and also independents who lean republican. So its a bit closer to the picture. It is still very very early. But I am excited for the debates with Trump in the mix. Should be highly entertaining to see how the seasoned politicians handle his free range style.

I agree. I think Trump is going to call them out and possibly slam them. If nothing else his free wheeling style is kind of refreshing in politics.

Will he use his experience and skills to benefit you, or himself?

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You're old, what was the last US president, in your esteemed opinion, that used their experience to help the people more than themselves?

I'm not advocating him for president. I was asking Barry if he would feel successful if he were president of several hundred businesses, of which 4 went bankrupt, and during which his personal wealth went from 50 million$ to many billion $.

Thing is, none of the other candidates (Hillary included) are offering any convincing solutions. Instead, it's just the same tired old finger pointing and cliches we've been getting from both the Republicans and the Democrats seemingly forever.

The American public is sick of it. And they're even more sick of the so called new normal.

Hence, a large proportion of the electorate, Democrats and Republicans both, will eagerly welcome anyone - anyone - who can even half convincingly offer up a better solution.

That's why Trump (of all people) has caught fire and that's also why Sanders is steadily gaining on Hillary.

This is going to be an interesting election.

The cinema shooting, like similar murders, were caused by the lax gun laws, maintained by the gun industry. Which the President would like modified, and by all opinion polls the people would as well.

Edited to make it correct. Also the West is importing millions of cheap low skilled labourers.

Every rich man is buyable, until they get to the stage of people like Gates. Trump has enough money, its now about power.

Clinton would be one. Kennedy might of, his brother could of, LBJ did a lot of good things. He was led by the nose of the hawks and arms industry to keep a pointless war spinning on.

The past is the past. You now have to look to the future, and the likely players are Clinton v Bush or Trump.

But how much power do they really hold? Obamacare, from the view of the rest of the West, was a total botch job it would have been far better to go 100% National Health Service, Gun Law is another thing the rest of the West realises favours one industry, and the Americans obsession to pay low tax, demand everything works and see debt spiral is going to lead us all into another crisis.

The Right keeps saying he's too rich to be bribed, as if money is his only motivation. On the other hand if he does approach the problem of the massive amount of consumers goods entering the US. Will Americans be happy to see these goods becomes scarcer or more expensive? That's a problem we all face.

Huckabee: Obama marching Israel to 'door of the oven' - CNNPolitics.com

More far right rhetoric. Israel is well capable of looking after itself. And for Iran to attack Israel with a Nuclear strike, would be a suicide mission. The balance of weapons is so one sided. Why did Huckabee say this?

Other than the fear factor.

i heard he did slip a little bit in the polls after the McCain thing?

You are either insane or senile.
Clintons net worth $80 million. How does someone come from a state that is last in everything, education etc. one of the poorest states to a combined $100 net worth if you count Hillarys as well.
..and you think he's helping people more than himself.

I'm pretty sure if you asked him outright, he'd only be able to name 6. The rest of them are offshore shell companies formed by his accountant to avoid tax and give him the illusion of being richer than he really is.

LOL you just contradicted yourself. they stop being buyable when they have billions. but they are still buyable cause it about the power now. they are either buyable, or they are not.

we can speculate all day long on trumps true motivation. but it is worth noting he is the only candidate looking to start a trade war. that certainly is not in his 1% republican friends best interests. & dispels the idea that he is running just for more power. If you consider the billionaire lifestyle, being president is an awful, stressful, thankless job by comparison. he would have far less freedom & personal power as president vs being a billionaire.

PS - rich people LOVE illegal immigrants & their cheap labor. They LOVE outsourcing jobs to china for big stock earnings wins. So several of trumps positions directly contradict the interests of the top 1%.

:2 cents:

Just saying it's not only money that buys people.

Balancing trade with Third world Nations has to be a number one policy for the First World.

Flip side of the coin.

How was the country after he left office?

Trump would get destroyed in a debate against Hillary Clinton or Bernie Sanders. Here's what I predict. The first question will be easy, and he will answer it in his usual brash style and get some cheers from his supporters. But the next question asked would be one only a thoughtful, level headed and politically experienced person could answer. Clinton or Sanders will provide a concise offer while Trump stumbles through it. He will do the same on the 3rd answer and lose the election right there.

He sees Donald Trump's success and is mimicking him with outrageous statements towards capturing some attention with the lowest common denominator voters.

The 2016 race to the bottom to become leader of the mindless silent majority :2 cents:

USA politics have become a trip to the zoo apparently and now we are fixating at the gorilla exhibit.

Trump's hair is definitely bullet proof.

HIllary Clinton is well-known across this country for her horrible debating skills.

and here's a question bernie sanders will stumble on- Mr. Sanders, why is it you are demanding minimum wage be legally forced to $15/hour while you only pay your own interns $12/hour?

oh the hypocrisy!
 

China-bashing Trump's clothing line made in China - Salon.com

I wonder what the wages are like in the China factory where Trump Collection Shirts are made? That was then and this is today:

Trump Men's Spread Collar Twill Solid Woven Shirt at Amazon Men's Clothing store: Button Down Shirts

too late. trumpmania is running wild. he will be... President of the United States of America.

:winkwink::thumbsup

In your own private Idaho maybe ...

They are aging better than that old Trump bag of wind ... Hair sure looks better LMAO

your dreaming. i dream too. in my dreams, its hillary. she doesnt stumble, too experienced. but she will be evasive, provide answers with no relation to the question, & generally dip & dunk like tom brady does the short pass. Then trump comes on & says, bada-bing, we're gonna fuckin fix it & nobodys gonna bully the USA when im president.

& he will win.

:2 cents:

i think what leftward thinking people dont see is trumps appeal to nationalism. his positions are pro-usa, project strength, rebuild america, the same message of reagan 1980. this message sells. it has not been used since 1984, but it still sells. just like chevy trucks & apple pie. Trumps billionaire story gives him the gravitas to sell this. it will help his appeal to this idea as he flies around with his name on his jets.

hillary cannot outsell this vision, which will appeal to independents tired of both parties. Trump is not beholden to either party, frankly. perfect triangulation abilities. lefties are badly underestimating the Donald.

:)

#1. What President wants to see laws modified?
#2. These laws are determined by each state, not the federal government.

i'm pretty sure it was caused by a very disturbed person with years and years of mental health problems...

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In normalcy; useful knowledge is built, so I have no idea how you can be retired and still maintain, or even assert such lack-of-knowledge views?

As for your 'polls' ...Every Legitimate opinion poll I have seen shows the opposite.

The Sarah Brady types in America need to be be educated to understand that because we have an armed citizenry, a dictatorship has not happened here.
The Anti-Gun Fools we have in the USA are more Dangerous to Liberty than street criminals or foreign spies.

seems almost circus-worth on purpose

If they can't get rid of him before that, it's either going to be a 'heart-attack' or this

Im just here selling EMPANADAS, who want some?

:pimp

Here's some actual data on that; they are called "Faithless Electors" (really) and it is extremely rare. It won't happen to Trump if he wins the nom fair and square, and in a number of states they have laws against it.

Faithless Electors

Trump is appealing to the id of the Republican party that's been concealed in the last few years. We've all had our suspicions the party was full of xenophobic, racist mongrels, but now they've come out of the woodwork that Trump has brought their concerns into the open with his blunt style.

60% of Trump supporters believe Barack Obama is not American. Why is it they don't believe he's American?

One poll taken said more Trump supporters think Ted Cruz was born in America than Obama. It just shows that they're a misinformed, miserable group of pricks. They'll be of no consequence once the general election comes -- this is if Trump doesn't flame out before then.

Lol. What a dumb analysis.

Just watched CNN and they showed Bush's new attack ad accusing Trump of being a Democrat by using Trump's own words in interviews.

Then they had commentary on CNN fron Van Jones, and he said Trump is no conservative...and that's why Bush's attack ad would NOT work. Jones said Trump's supporters are not conservative and are polling for him because they are disgusted with the way politicians have lied.

Bronco, you are so far offbase with your thinking on Trump. He doesn't draw the right wing at all. His positions are more Democrat than Republican. He represents an idea of getting rid of lying career politicians who are bought and sold every day.

You are thinking in terms of Trump being part of the political process you are used to, but he is a whole different animal.

It would not be too hard to hijack the Republican party. That is what I think is happening with the Republican party it may not be a bad thing :2 cents:

Conversely, Bernie Sunders is an elected Independent attempting to hijack the Democrat party.

"partyjackers" ? New buzz word?

Trump is a secret liberal, like Andy Kaufman style. He is getting the political right to feel comfortable about its ugliest positions, and it will cost them the election; no matter who gets the ticket, the white rabbit will be out of the hat.

I have to hand it to him, he is honest. We've needed that ever since political correctness gave racism and sexism a place to hide. Finally, a republican is being up front about the racist perspectives behind immigration. He's an unabashed misogynist, so when he talks women's issues, it makes sense. And people are loving it because they share those values. It's good for transparency, but it is very bad for the republican party.

Maybe it's not so much a hijacking as it is just bringing back some sanity to politics.

People have gotten so used to the political bullshit that they have seen their whole lives that they have started to think it's "normal".

Baddog, Crockett is right. It has even been said that St. Ronald Reagan would never become a republican nominee because even he is considered left by today's ultra-far-right republicans.




Baddog I agree with Barry-xlovecam. Just because you and others like you don't give a shit anymore about human life, and just because righties seem willing to dismiss human lives for the "freedom to carry guns" bullshit that is spoon-fed to you by the NRA, doesn't mean that the rest of the world doesn't care. We do. From our non-American (not un-American) point of view, any candidate, republican or otherwise that is soft on gun control, is just another low life ready to take it up the ass by the NRA so they will look the other way as gun laws become softer, software, and practically non existent, while more and more men, women, and CHILDREN die it fucking horrible, violent deaths.

You're off base.

He doesn't draw the right wing at all? Do you think the 60% of his supporters who believe Obama isn't American are liberal, or even Libertarian or Independent? They're conservative. That's a conservative idea.

You're right that he's anti-establishment, but he's speaking hardcore Republicans language.

I think maybe it depends who the moderator is.

If the moderator asks a good question and refuses to accept a general, no-answer answer, and instead demands details, I think Hillary would do a better job answering it than Trump. Don't forget that Hillary or any other politician for that matter, has real political experience. Trump has zero experience, which is why I think he will lose in a real debate.

No it's not a "conservative" idea.

Conservatism has to do with fiscal policy. (not speaking of religious nuts and so-called "social conservatism")

The birther idea is a STUPID idea. And trust me...there are just as many stupid fake liberals as there are stupid fake conservatives.
Stupidity doesn't discriminate based on political ideology.

no.

actually the adults that can comprehend complex issues realize throwing laws at this willy-nilly avoids most all of the actual reasons behind the issues.

in your simpleton brain you need to point your finger at the NRA and squeal about NRA brainwashing so you can use that to insult people like baddog. just like your made up bullshit that guns laws have become softer (under a democrat controlled EO and Congress btw) which they have not, and your nonsense that more and more people are dying when in reality gun fatalities are on the decline and have been for years and years.

but hey, keep making shit up so you can insult people, it's what you do. besides, you like to have personal freedoms and rights banned, we all get that.

Why do you think that? You think that because Hillary ran for Senate and President one time that she somehow magically becomes great at these fake debates (they are nothing more than glorified question and answer sessions...not true debates)?

Think about what you're saying. You think that politicians are suddenly so skilled and gifted.
Why?
They have no special talents. Hell, they never ever even try to make it in the real world and live their lives on the govt. teat as they "serve" (themselves).

And speaking of serving yourself...Anderson Cooper's show last night on CNN showed Hillary saying that she and Bill were not only "broke" when he left office 15 years ago...but that they were deeply in debt. Then they reported that the Clintons are worth millions now.

THAT is what politicians are good at. Leveraging their power to make tons of money.
And that is a GOOD thing in the private sector. Most of that money has been made by the companies that the Clintons helped while they were in office (both Bill and Hillary) paying Bill millions of dollars to speak at their functions.

But I'm just telling you that politicians are not "special" people with super powers.

They are mostly looking out for themselves and talk a lot of bullshit to stay in power so they can funnel govt. money to the companies that will end up hiring them when they finally (if ever) leave office.

And oh, by the way, Mark I took a nice shot at you and crockett in this thread:
https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-pr...scientist.html

lol :)

we all get that you want politics as usual in America, and your worship of entrenched career politicians is unwavering.

He is a classic American thug.

The SEO brothers, Porn and Cyber, really don't like America.

There is no classic American thug, bro. You mean like Adolf Hitler, or Josef Stalin, or Benito Mussolini, or Pol Pot, or Mao Ze Dong, or Kim Il Sung, or Idi Amin, or Muammar Qaddafi, or Nicolae Ceausescu? All those people that killed millions? None of them were American.