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CAHEK 09-01-2015 10:48 PM

100 trump's

SuckOnThis 09-01-2015 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by bronco67 (Post 20567186)
You're off base.

He doesn't draw the right wing at all? Do you think the 60% of his supporters who believe Obama isn't American are liberal, or even Libertarian or Independent? They're conservative. That's a conservative idea.

You're right that he's anti-establishment, but he's speaking hardcore Republicans language.

Fully 61% of self-identified supporters of Trump, who famously demanded to see Obama?s birth certificate as proof he was born in Hawaii, said they believed the President was not born in the U.S. Only 21% in the Public Policy Polling study said Obama was born in America; 18% weren?t sure.

By comparison, 44% of usual Republican primary voters overall said they?re convinced Obama was not born in the U.S., while 29% think he was and 26% couldn?t say. 40% believe Ted Cruz was born in the US.

About 54% of average likely GOP primary voters told the pollsters they think he?s a Muslim, while only 14% said they believe he?s a Christian, as he says, and 32% weren?t sure.

But among Trump voters, the percentage of those who believe Obama is Muslim jumps to 66%, while 12% say the President is Christian and 23% weren?t sure.

Trump supporters :1orglaugh

Robbie 09-01-2015 11:59 PM

Those are great statistics and all...but a small sample of a group of people conducted by a "study" that was fishing for the answer they wanted does not really reflect the truth.

Fact is, Trump made a huge mistake with that whole "birther" bullshit in 2012.

He doesn't bring it up anymore...but the media and anti-trump people sure do. It's all they want to talk about. I guess trying to drag him back down?

That kind of political play usually works on the average candidate. But nothing seems to affect Trump. He's learned to say "Yeah, so what?" instead of trying to make lame excuses like the other candidates do.

It's part of his reverse-charm that makes him bigger than life. And it's why all the other candidates look kind of puny and weak next to him.

Not saying they ARE puny and weak...just talking about perception. When you have an alpha male on one side who doesn't give a fuck what anybody thinks VS a group of guys who have every word coming out of their mouths written for them by a team of "experts" who ran tests ahead of time to make sure that they don't say ANYTHING even remotely that could possibly offend anyone...well, it makes Trump larger than life and makes the rest look like nothing more than the lying politicians that they are.

Barry-xlovecam 09-02-2015 05:30 AM

On being a "birther";
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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 20567784)
[H]e doesn't bring it up anymore...but the media and anti-trump people sure do. It's althey want to talk about. I guess trying to drag him back down?...

?If you can't get rid of the skeleton in your closet, you'd best teach it to dance.? ... George Bernard Shaw

?There is something about a closet that makes a skeleton terribly restless? ... Wilson Mizner

You are always preceded by your reputation in life ....

mineistaken 09-02-2015 05:37 AM

Lol, who the fuck cares if he is a birther or not? That is less than microscopic issue compared to everything else that is important when talking about politics. It is like nothing actually.
NOBODY KNOWS for 100% is Hussein was born there or there anyways. What is a big deal if you question that? Or, more likely, just troll with that :1orglaugh
Funny how demtards exaggerate this minuscule issue... Shows they have nothing else.

I mean wtf, how could people give this issue even 0.000001% of consideration is laughable.
Questioning Hussein's place of birth has no effect on the course of the country. This is a PERSONAL thing, not a presidential campaign thing.

It has pretty much the same importance as if you would question some candidate if he liked snickers or twix.

Barry-xlovecam 09-02-2015 06:54 AM

I judge a man by what he says and does.

Not by his rhetoric.

_Richard_ 09-02-2015 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam (Post 20568032)
I judge a man by what he says and does.

Not by his rhetoric.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

_Richard_ 09-02-2015 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by ilnjscb (Post 20567477)
The SEO brothers, Porn and Cyber, really don't like America.

There is no classic American thug, bro. You mean like Adolf Hitler, or Josef Stalin, or Benito Mussolini, or Pol Pot, or Mao Ze Dong, or Kim Il Sung, or Idi Amin, or Muammar Qaddafi, or Nicolae Ceausescu? All those people that killed millions? None of them were American.

his father was a slumlord.. are slumlords not thugs?

j3rkules 09-02-2015 09:17 AM

Whoever is winning at the moment will always seem to be invincible.~George Orwell

GregE 09-02-2015 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 20567784)
...Fact is, Trump made a huge mistake with that whole "birther" bullshit in 2012.

He doesn't bring it up anymore...but the media and anti-trump people sure do. It's all they want to talk about. I guess trying to drag him back down?

Well to be fair, Trump has only himself to blame for that present vulnerability.

I still like the guy though :thumbsup

Moreover, most people know that Trump's not a real birther. He only did that to get under Obama's skin.

CDSmith 09-02-2015 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by GregE (Post 20568167)
Moreover, most people know that Trump's not a real birther. He only did that to get under Obama's skin.

Moreover, most people know that Trump's not a real misogynist. He only said those things to get under Rosie O'Donnell's fat skin.

dyna mo 09-02-2015 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by CDSmith (Post 20568186)
Moreover, most people know that Trump's not a real misogynist. He only said those things to get under Rosie O'Donnell's fat skin.

rosie o'donnell's own adopted daughter recently chose to go live with her biological mother, that says a lot.

SuckOnThis 09-02-2015 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20568203)
rosie o'donnell's own adopted daughter recently chose to go live with her biological mother, that says a lot.

Yea, it says she would rather be with her biological mom. Crazy.

Sly 09-02-2015 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20568203)
rosie o'donnell's own adopted daughter recently chose to go live with her biological mother, that says a lot.

I'm no fan of Rosie but that's pretty common with adopted children. Teenagers are difficult to deal with as is, imagine dealing with an adopted child that can't understand/accept why her biological mother "left her."

dyna mo 09-02-2015 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by SuckOnThis (Post 20568315)
Yea, it says she would rather be with her biological mom. Crazy.

yes, it says she would rather be with her low-income mother who gave her away when she was born rather than live in a mansion with a wealthy celebrity psycho.

dyna mo 09-02-2015 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Sly (Post 20568318)
I'm no fan of Rosie but that's pretty common with adopted children. Teenagers are difficult to deal with as is, imagine dealing with an adopted child that can't understand/accept why her biological mother "left her."

going back to live with your biological mother who abandoned you is not pretty common at all. tracking them down and asking why is.

CaptainHowdy 09-02-2015 11:46 AM

Trump trumpets may be sounding the seventh celestial trumpet with a little haste ...

Robbie 09-02-2015 11:53 AM

My observation is that Trump is doing what no other candidate has EVER done or could do.

Think about it, the media has thrown everything but the kitchen sink at him so far. And he's still leading the polls.

Every other time that the media has went after a candidate, they either dropped out of the race or watched their numbers plummet the next day.

Trump has trumped them all so far.

I wonder how high his numbers would be if the media weren't talking negatively about him every day and instead just covered the campaign without trying to determine the outcome of it.

Sly 09-02-2015 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 20568354)
My observation is that Trump is doing what no other candidate has EVER done or could do.

Think about it, the media has thrown everything but the kitchen sink at him so far. And he's still leading the polls.

Every other time that the media has went after a candidate, they either dropped out of the race or watched their numbers plummet the next day.

Trump has trumped them all so far.

I wonder how high his numbers would be if the media weren't talking negatively about him every day and instead just covered the campaign without trying to determine the outcome of it.

When the media goes after a candidate, the candidate will usually change their tone or deflect or try to deny somehow.

Hillary would be a good example. She is straight out denying any wrongdoing at all and trying to change the topic whenever possible.

Trump has just taken them head on, whether he was right or wrong. "Fuck you, I'm Donald Trump, bring it on."

The way he got Fox News to back down was really a holy fuck moment.

Robbie 09-02-2015 12:04 PM

You hit the nail on the head Sly.

I've even heard the "experts" on CNN and Fox News pretty much demanding that Trump change his "tone" and make apologies or he's "done".

And then he climbs higher in the polls and makes them all look like the out of touch fools that they really are.

ilnjscb 09-02-2015 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by _Richard_ (Post 20568080)
his father was a slumlord.. are slumlords not thugs?

You know I love you man, but no. Ask that poor drowned baby what a thug is - a thug is like Assad or ISIS, who drives a mother to risk the death of her children to get away. A slum lord is an asshole, a jerk, and if he employs subhumans to beat and kill people, a thug. Donald Trump's dad was not that. I support Hillary, but no need to down the competition falsely, IMHO.

Arguably Stupid Bush was one, but I think he thought he was doing good, in a twisted way. And he always had people pushing him to do worse. A thug hurts people because he can, because he enjoys it. He destroys, and creates chaos and fear because he wants others to be brought low.

Robbie 09-02-2015 10:56 PM

I keep hearing dumbasses calling Trump's father a "slumlord".

So I googled him up. Here is the TRUTH about Fred Trump's business, why in the fuck do these so-called "liberals" feel the need to exaggerate EVERYTHING and just lie:

"In 1920 at age 15, Trump went into the real estate development and construction business, forming Elizabeth Trump & Son Co. with his mother, who was an active partner, writing the checks. Their success allowed him to send his younger brother John George Trump (1907-1985) to Brooklyn Polytechnic Institute, then to Columbia University for his master's, and to Massachusetts Institute of Technology for his Ph.D. After attempting to work together, building a couple of houses together, John switched to electrical engineering, going on to partner with Robert J. Van de Graaff and build one of the first million-volt X-ray generators.

In the late 1920s, Trump began building single-family houses in Queens, which were sold for $3,990 each. By the mid-1930s in the middle of the Great Depression, he helped pioneer the concept of supermarkets with the Trump Market in Woodhaven, which advertised "Serve Yourself and Save!", becoming an instant hit. After only a year Trump sold it for a tidy profit to the King Kullen supermarket chain.

During World War II, Trump built barracks and garden apartments for U.S. Navy personnel near major shipyards along the East Coast, including Chester, Pennsylvania, Newport News, Virginia, and Norfolk, Virginia. After the war he expanded into middle-income housing for the families of returning veterans, building Shore Haven in Bensonhurst in 1949, and Beach Haven near Coney Island in 1950 (a total of 2,700 apartments). In 1963 he built the 3,800-apartment Trump Village in Coney Island, competing with Lefrak City in Queens.

Trump went on to build and operate affordable rental housing via large apartment complexes in New York City, including more than 27,000 low-income multifamily apartments and row houses in the neighborhoods of Coney Island, Bensonhurst, Sheepshead Bay, Flatbush, and Brighton Beach in Brooklyn, and Flushing and Jamaica Estates in Queens. In 1968 his 22-year-old son Donald Trump joined his company Trump Management Co., becoming president in 1974, and renaming it The Trump Organization in 1980. In the mid-1970s he lent his son money, allowing him to go into the real estate business in Manhattan, while Fred stuck to Brooklyn and Queens. "It was good for me," Donald later commented. "You know, being the son of somebody, it could have been competition to me. This way, I got Manhattan all to myself."

MakingItPay 09-03-2015 05:51 AM

Republicans: "He's not a real republican!" Democrats: "He's not a real republican!"
I think it will be okay to have a leader that has built a fortune. I know he started with 40 million, but he turned it into 10 Billion. Most guys that are left $40 million end up with an overdrawn bank account and a case of Chlamydia. How about if we can't elect a billionaire that knows how to build business and buildings, let's just get a guy or gal that's had a job maybe?


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