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Jman 07-31-2015 05:08 AM

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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 20537964)
No, "he didn't" - his guide did. And do you honestly think that every hunter, using a bow, rifle, fishing rod or a slingshot actually gets an immediate kill?

Fuck, you are stupid. But we knew that.

You are the one spinning this with your head in the sand. Everyone knows dentist is guilty yet you try and protect him. As you can swe in this threat, you are the one making a fool of himself... Yet again

aka123 07-31-2015 05:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Relic (Post 20538139)
Such bravery :2 cents:

"Such" bravery comes in many forms as you can see from pic below. But the thing you commented is by the way shooting/observation platform, not that much bravery related. As you can see from the pic, the visibility on ground level is quite limited, thus elevated platform.

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SuckOnThis 07-31-2015 07:20 AM

And here we have the Trump boys....


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Jman 07-31-2015 07:27 AM

And who do you think ponied up the money for those kills. Redneck's 4 life

brassmonkey 07-31-2015 07:27 AM

he's going to pay his way out :2 cents::2 cents: 3rd world court :2 cents::2 cents: judge gets 100k not guilty :2 cents:

Just Alex 07-31-2015 08:55 AM

Have they found his ass yet?

kane 07-31-2015 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by aka123 (Post 20538137)
About the need. Haven't you heard about hunting? It is a need for predators, like for lion or Homo sapiens.

About the purpose: whether you look it as a way to get food/ raw materials it serves a purpose and if you look it as a hobby/ leisure it serves a purpose as does any hobby/ leisure.

I said before I understand hunting for food or as a means to control populations of animals/conservation.

This wasn't a hunt. This was a shooting gallery. Maybe I am digging too much into it, but when they study people who are serial killers almost all of them share a few traits including having been cruel to animals. To me a person wanting to shoot an animal simply for the sheer pleasure of shooting it is a form of cruelty. I'm not saying they are serial killers, but I have a feeling they have some serious underlying issues.

Rochard 07-31-2015 02:09 PM

Meanwhile, in the United States we KILL ONE MILLION CHICKENS AN HOUR to satisfy our hunger. No one gives a shit about about that.

dyna mo 07-31-2015 02:16 PM

plenty of pre-teen girls give a shit about the chickens, rochard.

aka123 07-31-2015 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by kane (Post 20538589)
I said before I understand hunting for food or as a means to control populations of animals/conservation.

This wasn't a hunt. This was a shooting gallery. Maybe I am digging too much into it, but when they study people who are serial killers almost all of them share a few traits including having been cruel to animals. To me a person wanting to shoot an animal simply for the sheer pleasure of shooting it is a form of cruelty. I'm not saying they are serial killers, but I have a feeling they have some serious underlying issues.

Whatever, but you thinking something/ the study meaning something aren't exactly equal things.

Hunting is hunting whether you hunt for food or not. You don't still understand that it is more or less instinct. We are predators you know, whether you accept it or not. Of course we have done much farming for a while and many people don't have any contact to hunting or even farming, so alienation is serious issue, but anyways, we are still predators or at least carnivorous (if you eat meat).

aka123 07-31-2015 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20538597)
plenty of pre-teen girls give a shit about the chickens, rochard.

Chicken shit is great fertilizer. Plenty of flower power available.

kane 07-31-2015 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by aka123 (Post 20538598)
Whatever, but you thinking something/ the study meaning something aren't exactly equal things.

Hunting is hunting whether you hunt for food or not. You don't still understand that it is more or less instinct. We are predators you know, whether you accept it or not. Of course we have done much farming for a while and many people don't have any contact to hunting or even farming, so alienation is serious issue, but anyways, we are still predators or at least carnivorous (if you eat meat).

Agreed, we are predators although some of that has likely left us over the years as we begin relying more on farming etc as other sources of food.

In the wild most predators don't kill simply for the joy of killing. They have a reason. It may be other than food (like breeding rights, protecting territory or other members of their group etc), but as far as I am aware there isn't a lot of killing simply for the sake of killing.

kane 07-31-2015 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20538591)
Meanwhile, in the United States we KILL ONE MILLION CHICKENS AN HOUR to satisfy our hunger. No one gives a shit about about that.

An in a week or two nobody is going to give a shit about this lion. We will all have moved on and found something else to be outraged about.

dyna mo 07-31-2015 02:35 PM

we don't give a shit about chickens because they're fucking chickens and we naturally eat meat. it's preposterous to even think 7 billion humans are supposed to stop eating meat on account of, you know, chicken lives matter.

aka123 07-31-2015 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by kane (Post 20538606)
Agreed, we are predators although some of that has likely left us over the years as we begin relying more on farming etc as other sources of food.

In the wild most predators don't kill simply for the joy of killing. They have a reason. It may be other than food (like breeding rights, protecting territory or other members of their group etc), but as far as I am aware there isn't a lot of killing simply for the sake of killing.

First of all; killing is not a synonym for hunting. Okay?

Secondly: predators in nature get to satisfy their need for hunting. Humans have hunted for food, fur, bones, joints, etc. and have liked it. You know, as we like things those promote our survival. Evolution has done that to us. Like you don't need a reason to have sex, other than having sex. Or do you have sex to purely reproduce, you don't like sex? Everything else is sick minded and maybe a sign of a serial killer?

kane 07-31-2015 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by aka123 (Post 20538618)
First of all; killing is not a synonym for hunting. Okay?

Exactly my point. Hunting is hunting. Spotlighting a lion and shooting it is killing.

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Secondly: predators in nature get to satisfy their need for hunting. Humans have hunted for food, fur, bones, joints, etc. and have liked it. You know, as we like things those promote our survival. Evolution has done that to us. Like you don't need a reason to have sex, other than having sex. Or do you have sex to purely reproduce, you don't like sex? Everything else is sick minded and maybe a sign of a serial killer?
But having sex, finding a joint etc are not killing. As we both agree before there is a difference between hunting and killing. This guy didn't hunt a lion, he drove up to it and shot it. That is killing.

Look, there clearly is no use arguing this much further. We are opposite sides the fence. I believe anyone who would shoot and kill something simply for the pleasure of killing it has something wrong with them. You don't. Fair enough.

aka123 07-31-2015 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by kane (Post 20538641)
But having sex, finding a joint etc are not killing.

So? Is there something wrong in killing in the first place? Not that I would personally enjoy about it, but is there something wrong in it? And if so, what?

Having sex is by the way kinda killing; at least you waste millions of living spermatozoons. Probably not very self aware creatures, but moving and living are.

SilentKnight 07-31-2015 03:39 PM

Zimbabwe trying to extradite Walter Palmer
 
I really hope they get this cocksucker.


Zimbabwe 'seeks lion Cecil's killer' Walter Palmer from US - BBC News


The US dentist who killed a lion in Zimbabwe should be extradited to face charges, Zimbabwe's Environment Minister Oppah Muchinguri has said.

Walter Palmer's extradition was being sought so that he could "be held accountable for his illegal action," she said.

The US Fish and Wildlife Service was contacted by a representative of Mr Palmer on Thursday.

The contact comes as US authorities continue to investigate the hunt.

GregE 07-31-2015 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20538616)
we don't give a shit about chickens because they're fucking chickens and we naturally eat meat. it's preposterous to even think 7 billion humans are supposed to stop eating meat on account of, you know, chicken lives matter.

People get "funny" about eating dogs, cats and horses on this side of the ocean and even funnier about about eating cows in India. But in one place or another all of the above is commonplace.

Be that as it may... killing just for the shear pleasure of killing is frowned upon nearly everywhere. Aside from the Mideast of course.

This asshole dentist and that whore who gets wet posing with freshly killed giraffes deserve every last drop of bad tidings coming their way.

RFremont 07-31-2015 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 20536851)
Well, if the African lion was an endangered species I might see your point, but according to WWF the only lions that are endangered are sea lions.

https://www.worldwildlife.org/specie...inction_status


Shut the fuck up you old cunt and know this, you have one foot in the grave already and hopefully with ball cancer. The world will be a better place.

GregE 07-31-2015 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by SilentKnight (Post 20538654)
I really hope they get this cocksucker.


Zimbabwe 'seeks lion Cecil's killer' Walter Palmer from US - BBC News


The US dentist who killed a lion in Zimbabwe should be extradited to face charges, Zimbabwe's Environment Minister Oppah Muchinguri has said.

Walter Palmer's extradition was being sought so that he could "be held accountable for his illegal action," she said.

The US Fish and Wildlife Service was contacted by a representative of Mr Palmer on Thursday.

The contact comes as US authorities continue to investigate the hunt.

We do indeed have an extradition treaty with Zimbabwe. By all rights this should be a no brainer.

RFremont 07-31-2015 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 20537901)
He does, and anyone that thinks hunting a lion with a bow is a pussy should show us how bad ass they are.



I guess I need to know what separates the majestic animals from the non-majestic.


:1orglaugh

None of that matters you filthy maggot and I opened this thread just to see who would defend that sick sociopath and true to form, the same maggots that lack basic human compassion showed up, you being at the top of the list. Go fuckin die already.

aka123 07-31-2015 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by RFremont (Post 20538680)
None of that matters you filthy maggot and I opened this thread just to see who would defend that sick sociopath and true to form, the same maggots that lack basic human compassion showed up, you being at the top of the list. Go fuckin die already.

"lack basic human compassion"

"Go fuckin die already"

Very humane of you. :)

kane 07-31-2015 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by aka123 (Post 20538644)
So? Is there something wrong in killing in the first place? Not that I would personally enjoy about it, but is there something wrong in it? And if so, what?

Having sex is by the way kinda killing; at least you waste millions of living spermatozoons. Probably not very self aware creatures, but moving and living are.

Of course there is something wrong with killing when the killing is done simply for pleasure or sport. And by suggesting that sperm that die when you have sex (or jerk off) is the same as you killing a lion for sport is foolish. If we want to get into semantics a person likely can't go through an average day in their life without killing something, the difference is when I drive my car to the store I am normally not aware of bugs that die when they smash into my car, nor am I going out of my way to try to hit and kill them simply for the joy of watching them die.

MK Ultra 07-31-2015 04:23 PM

Meanwhile... back on earth :disgust

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One fucking animal dies and the world is calling for blood, this shit goes on every day and nobody gives a fuck.

When I think about how fucked up people's priorities are today the old saying comes to mind "I used to be disgusted, now I'm only amused"

And you all are absolutely cracking me up :1orglaugh

aka123 07-31-2015 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by kane (Post 20538686)
Of course there is something wrong with killing when the killing is done simply for pleasure or sport. And by suggesting that sperm that die when you have sex (or jerk off) is the same as you killing a lion for sport is foolish. If we want to get into semantics a person likely can't go through an average day in their life without killing something, the difference is when I drive my car to the store I am normally not aware of bugs that die when they smash into my car, nor am I going out of my way to try to hit and kill them simply for the joy of watching them die.

OK. This will sound weird, but I also asked why? Why it is wrong to kill for a pleasure?

Besides, I don't even think that was the case in here dentist situation. There are not that many humans those enjoy from that. And if they do, hunting is not really something to satisfy that. If you just want to kill, you can buy something to kill. You don't get to kill that many animals in hunting, even fishing includes much more killing. If you want to kill, there are much more convenient ways to do that than hunting. Really, 50 000 dollars just to kill something in different continent, as you can buy some chicken for few dollars? Doesn't sound very plausible.

kane 07-31-2015 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by aka123 (Post 20538703)
OK. This will sound weird, but I also asked why? Why it is wrong to kill for a pleasure?

To me if a person kills just for pleasure it is a sign that they have something wrong in them. To me, humans are not typically animals that just kill simply to get enjoyment from it. If taking somethings life makes you happy, I think you have issues.

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Besides, I don't even think that was the case in here dentist situation. There are not that many humans those enjoy from that. And if they do, hunting is not really something to satisfy that. If you just want to kill, you can buy something to kill. You don't get to kill that many animals in hunting, even fishing includes much more killing. If you want to kill, there are much more convenient ways to do that than hunting. Really, 50 000 dollars just to kill something in different continent, as you can buy some chicken for few dollars? Doesn't sound very plausible.
It is 100% plausible. Every person is not the same. Somewhere out there there is someone who gets their rocks off by torturing house cats or killing small dogs. There are people who enjoy killing various things, including other people. For this guy it is big game. He has done it before, gotten in trouble with the law before for doing it, and will likely do it again. For him it may not be killing in general, but killing specific things.

aka123 07-31-2015 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by kane (Post 20538711)
To me if a person kills just for pleasure it is a sign that they have something wrong in them. To me, humans are not typically animals that just kill simply to get enjoyment from it. If taking somethings life makes you happy, I think you have issues.

It is 100% plausible. Every person is not the same. Somewhere out there there is someone who gets their rocks off by torturing house cats or killing small dogs. There are people who enjoy killing various things, including other people. For this guy it is big game. He has done it before, gotten in trouble with the law before for doing it, and will likely do it again. For him it may not be killing in general, but killing specific things.

You didn't answer "why" in the first chapter. I didn't ask some profile. It is of course hard question to answer, but why in fuck I would ask easy questions?

Second chapter; everything, literally everything is possible, but that is not very likely.. that thing what you described. Much more likely explanation is that he likes to hunt big game. Statistically that is much more plausible explanation.

Nevertheless he did wrong and against law, but come on.. do we really have to dig up worst possible assumptions about him? Really?

kane 07-31-2015 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by aka123 (Post 20538717)
You didn't answer "why" in the first chapter. I didn't ask some profile. It is of course hard question to answer, but why in fuck I would ask easy questions?

Why is killing things wrong? That is big question, that I likely can't answer to your satisfaction. As I have said, to me, killing something simply for the pleasure of watching it die is a sign that something is wrong with a person. I don't really have any other answer for you.

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Second chapter; everything, literally everything is possible, but that is not very likely.. that thing what you described. Much more likely explanation is that he likes to hunt big game. Statistically that is much more plausible explanation.
You say he likes to hunt big game, I say he likes to kill big game. I guess neither of will ever know for sure what is in his heart.

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Nevertheless he did wrong and against law, but come on.. do we really have to dig up worst possible assumptions about him? Really?
In most cases I give a person the benefit of the doubt, but there are certain things that, to me, set off alarms that people have issues and paying to travel halfway across the globe to shoot a lion simply so you can hang its head on your den wall is one of them.

SuckOnThis 07-31-2015 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by aka123 (Post 20538703)
OK. This will sound weird, but I also asked why? Why it is wrong to kill for a pleasure?

Maybe you should present this question to a shrink.

2MuchMark 07-31-2015 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by RFremont (Post 20538673)
Shut the fuck up you old cunt and know this, you have one foot in the grave already and hopefully with ball cancer. The world will be a better place.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Holy shit! That is by far the worst insult I've ever read on GFY. Well done!

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Originally Posted by MK Ultra (Post 20538698)
One fucking animal dies and the world is calling for blood, this shit goes on every day and nobody gives a fuck.

Yours is a valid point, and there's no really good enough answer.

I would argue that some people DO give a fuck, which is why they're being bombed. Everyone agrees that what they are doing is an atrocity. Then again, that is war: 2 opposing sides killing to protect their beliefs. No one wants it.

People are freaking out over Cecil the Lion because first, we humans naturally love all kinds of animals, especially beautiful animals. This Lions murder was made much worse because a rich asshole, who already has it all, decided he wanted something more. He made suffer a beautiful animal for absolutely no reason whatsoever except so he could hang its head on his wall, and presumably jerk off to it every night.

aka123 07-31-2015 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by kane (Post 20538725)
In most cases I give a person the benefit of the doubt, but there are certain things that, to me, set off alarms that people have issues and paying to travel halfway across the globe to shoot a lion simply so you can hang its head on your den wall is one of them.

People travel across the globe for various of reasons. Having hunting or fishing trip doesn't seem any different to me. You are just focusing to one aspect (killing).

aka123 07-31-2015 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by SuckOnThis (Post 20538729)
Maybe you should present this question to a shrink.

Are they good in philosophical questions? To me their profession seems quite Homo sapiens focused, not so much philosophical.

2MuchMark 07-31-2015 05:25 PM

Well, shit the bed!

Cecil the lion's killer donated to Romney | TheHill

jscott 07-31-2015 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20538591)
Meanwhile, in the United States we KILL ONE MILLION CHICKENS AN HOUR to satisfy our hunger. No one gives a shit about about that.

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Originally Posted by MK Ultra (Post 20538698)
Meanwhile... back on earth :disgust
One fucking animal dies and the world is calling for blood, this shit goes on every day and nobody gives a fuck.
When I think about how fucked up people's priorities are today the old saying comes to mind "I used to be disgusted, now I'm only amused"
And you all are absolutely cracking me up :1orglaugh

Very fucked up! But does that make Cecilkiller any more innocent? :disgust

kane 07-31-2015 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by aka123 (Post 20538746)
People travel across the globe for various of reasons. Having hunting or fishing trip doesn't seem any different to me. You are just focusing to one aspect (killing).

I am focusing on one aspect because it is fucked up aspect.

dyna mo 07-31-2015 05:33 PM

Mk ultra knows people give a fuck about killings on the daily.

C H R I S 07-31-2015 08:19 PM

Comparing chickens to lion is laughable

RFremont 08-01-2015 01:22 AM

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Originally Posted by aka123 (Post 20538684)
"lack basic human compassion"

"Go fuckin die already"

Very humane of you. :)

Sorry mate, I never claimed to be a saint or the voice of justice and I believe, right or wrong, that my reaction to someone like that asshole is appropriate. With that said, I have tried to have logical discussions with fagdog before on other issues, trying to understand the psyche behind people like that, he ignored it. So if you're asking me to have compassion for an asshole like that, guess I will happily fail.

I rescue street dogs quite often here, recently we found one where some pricks hurt him really bad. Now if I'd seen them doing that in the act of whatever they tried to do to him, you think it would have been appropriate to have said 'gee guys, why are you trying to skin that dog alive' ? Not likely. The sad fact is most of humanity are pieces of shit and violence and/or loss of freedom is the only appropriate answer, in my eyes, anyone hurting innocent animals deserves a lot worse to happen to them. That's my take and it won't change.

astronaut x 08-01-2015 05:49 AM

This thread has become ridiculous and off the rails. Comparing raising chickens for food to the killing of endangered species.... Comparing the population control of rats to the killing of endangered species... Comparing war and Theocracy in a world that's over-populated with human beings to the killing of endangered species... Idiots giving opinions without informing themselves about the subject of the title...and a very articulate fool, contradicting him or herself, in every post.... Fucking morons. Pathetic.


aka123 08-01-2015 07:03 AM

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Originally Posted by astronaut x (Post 20539022)
This thread has become ridiculous and off the rails. Comparing raising chickens for food to the killing of endangered species.... Comparing the population control of rats to the killing of endangered species... Comparing war and Theocracy in a world that's over-populated with human beings to the killing of endangered species... Idiots giving opinions without informing themselves about the subject of the title...and a very articulate fool, contradicting him or herself, in every post.... Fucking morons. Pathetic.

FYI. This thread is about so much more than killing endangered animals. For starters, the title and opening post is more about some dentist than a lions.

The lions are not even that much endangered (you can see it from the scale). Much more species have become endangered by ending up on your plate (usually not directly), and I don't mean in the past, I mean right now, right there, and here. I mean for example fishes and fish products. Not that cute ones as lions, but the situation on seas is much more fucked up than in Africa totally. And even chickens have probably something to do with this, as fish is at least sometimes part of the the food the chickens eat.

Most species endangered (or already extinct) by humans are not endangered because someone shoots those.

MrBottomTooth 08-01-2015 07:10 AM

I'll be glad when this disappears like the ice bucket challenge.

Phoenix 08-01-2015 07:14 AM

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Originally Posted by MK Ultra (Post 20538698)
Meanwhile... back on earth :disgust



One fucking animal dies and the world is calling for blood, this shit goes on every day and nobody gives a fuck.

When I think about how fucked up people's priorities are today the old saying comes to mind "I used to be disgusted, now I'm only amused"

And you all are absolutely cracking me up :1orglaugh

Those pictures are beyond disturbing..especially the ones with kids in them.

I think the difference is in western society we try not to conduct ourselves in that matter. I mean there are no mass burnings of children going on in Canada. Most of my family hunts, we all live in the great white north, it is a way of life.

however, even the most seasoned hunter up there who has killed tons of different animals is not doing it just for sport. It is a matter of pride to be able to butcher the meat yourself, or failing that you take it to the local butcher who does a better job of it. Then you can share with friends, the steaks..roasts...pepperetes...sausages.

Savages are going to kill kids in the name of their invisible sky fairy, not long ago Christian savages would have been counted in amongst those. I would not be against sterilization for savages.

My point...sad to see a lion killed for nothing. Some dickwads trophy case.

I would rather see all those people who were killing those helpless people shot with a bow and followed for a day or so as they died.

Rob 08-01-2015 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by ********** (Post 20538750)

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Dems are in full blown panic mode if this is what they have to dig up and publish.

ErectMedia 08-01-2015 09:32 AM

Personally I don't hunt but have no problem with it if someone is ready to eat their kill. Shooting something just to add it to your mantel sounds like small penis syndrome. :2 cents:

6 Rich White People Who Get Off on Killing African Wildlife | Alternet

L-Pink 08-01-2015 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by ********** (Post 20538750)


Did you have an evil republican monster hiding under your bed when you were little?


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Kafka 08-01-2015 04:10 PM

Let's shoot the hunter. After that show the kill.

jscott 08-02-2015 03:27 AM

Some grown men cant even think for themselves. Need organizatiins or others to tell them whats right and wrong. Sad.

Are humans so fucked up that we need someone to tell us that killing in the name of pleasure is wrong?

C H R I S 08-02-2015 10:14 PM

Interesting how many different conversations this thread brought up.

I think its time for a new topic.

C H R I S 08-03-2015 10:04 AM

I heard the are making hunting lions illegal in Zimbabwe now without strict approval from govt.


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