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Here's an idea that I'm sure will go nowhere fast. They should RAISE the taxes on gasoline cars.
Taxing electric cars is stupid. It impedes progress and punishes the wrong sector of drivers. Gasoline drivers should be taxed as a "penalty" because they contribute to pollution. |
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Besides, it appears you and crockett do not know how electricity is generated. It's primarily generated by fossil fuels. |
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And as Crockett says, most charge at home. I myself always charge at home now, but still charge when I'm out shopping or whatever if I know the trip home will deplete my battery. Quote:
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VIA Motors | Extended-Range Electric Truck 402HP/100mpg and more on the way. Electric has more energy than Diesel, and considering the larger size and extra space for batter placement, EV trucks make a lot of sense. Quote:
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Coal = 39% Natural gas = 27% Nuclear = 19% Hydropower = 6% Other renewables = 7% Biomass = 1.7% Geothermal = 0.4% Solar = 0.4% Wind = 4.4% Petroleum = 1% Other gases < 1% Of the 2 fossil fuels we use to generate electric in this country, only one is really harmful. Which is coal.. Coal might be the largest single fuel type, it is still not the majority and it's slowly being phased out.. Here in Colorado for example they use a lot of coal but they were already moving away from coal with out any Federal govt intervention. In fact if Obama's new coal regulation were to be put into effect, Colorado would not have to change their current plans as they were already on plan to be where the proposed regulations want them to be.. Coal just like Gasoline is on the way out.. In fact the only reason we aren't phasing it out fast, is because too many corrupt polititions are in the pockets of the coal industry. Anyway.. Burning coal to generate electric to power electric cars, is still cleaner than burning coal and burning gas to power cars.. |
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Imagine the future and no gasoline cars, just electric ones. Now answer the question. |
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natural gas production does not harm the environment? what planet are you posting from? because here on earth in America we are mining coal in record #s and selling the shittiest of it to the Europeans. and natural gas drilling, extracting and transporting creates huge amounts of methane. you do know about methane right? |
The government can create charge stations and earn the rev that way.
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But in the boonies for sure and probably elsewhere freelancers will sell electricity marginally above their cost using plugin adapters. |
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And no...there aren't any of those gonna happen any time soon that would actually be viable to transport large trailers thousands of miles. That was my point. So diesel powered 18 wheelers are still gonna be running at full capacity on the nations highways for the foreseeable future. |
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nevertheless, according to the US Department of fucking Energy, you have no idea what you are yapping on about, according to everyone really. http://www.eia.gov/coal/production/q...df/t1p01p1.pdf :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh |
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The WAVE features a range-extended electric powertrain: Is Walmart's WAVE Concept Truck The Fuel-Efficient Future Of Semis? and And here's BMW's entry into the electric SEMI-TRUCK market Here Is BMW's 40-Ton Electric Semi Truck And here's a Hydbrid, just because. HybriDriveŽ Hybrid Diesel Trucks, Hybrid Semi Trucks: How It Works and From Dynamo to Crocket: Quote:
just sayin'. |
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To answer your ridiculous comment, not all electricity is produced by fossil fuels. Lot of it, and more and more every day, is coming from clean / renewable sources. Or did you already forget about the solar panels you installed on your roof? Quote:
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I would LOVE to see EV cars taxed to fund things like this: U.K. set to test under-road wireless charging for electric cars | Driving I would happily pay that tax. |
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I'm not losing a fucking argument here and I've been BEYOND fucking cool to you for a fucking while now. Do you acknowledge that? Fuck no you don't. Just fucking saying. The fucking thread asked for my fucking opinion and I've contributed real fucking facts as well. Gofuckyourself, just fucking saying. And I treat gfyers like they deserve to be treated. Start shit talking and get shit talking back. You don't see me addressing robbie that way. You don't see me addressing Barry that way. U don't see me treating 98% of gfyers that way. I treat the wanbabe bullies that way because that's how they deserve to be treated. Kick verbal sand in my face and expect me to sit there? Not gonna happen. Knock it the fuck off with me, I did with you. Just fucking saying. Jtfc. |
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Punishing others because they don't drive electric is about as condescending and elitist as you could be **********. The uber elitist part is YOU do not even drive an electric.
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Either you are trying extremely hard to play dumb or you really are a dumb fuck.. Either way it's a waste of time to deal with you at this point. |
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Final advice to you. RELAX. You fly off the handle every time someone says something you don't like or don't agree with. It's not good for your health. The next time you're about to lose your mind, go for a walk or jog or something, I promise you'll feel better. Quote:
you are a lost cause. Go buy yourself a Hummer and drive it with a smile then. |
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on top of being an intolerant bully, you have no idea what you are yapping on about. but hey, you saw something neat at home depot so you can predict the future. |
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i'm gonna beat you up? what the fuck are you talking about? that's how you interpret that? as a threat? here, i'll rephrase it for you **********: i don't come here to make enemies. you claim you don't either so it makes fucking sense for you to knock it the fuck off with me since i am trying to give you an opporfuckingtunity to be civil by leading you by example of my being civil to you. |
it's pretty comical how many hints i've given ********** that this is a schtick. i even pointed out directly to him that i get inspiration for it from one of my all-time fav movie films glengarry glen ross.
gofuckyourself ahah. and ftr, i know crockett's a schtick too, figured that out before he announced that he's a gfy conservative troll here to rile up the conservatives. me not realizing gfy is fun? fucking please. |
Dynamo. It must really hurt to be as depressed as you obviously are. I hope you get help soon.
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there's **********, doing what ********** does best, judging others while looking down his nose doing a internet psych profile based on gfy.
nevertheless, EV is not THE future, battery technology has not had the breakthrough elon musk is waiting for, cordless 18v batteries = 20v, and coal is in peak production. another argument won by dyna mo. dyna mo = bazillion crockofprince = 0 :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh depression gone. |
I'm not judging you Dynamo. I just think that you can't help but lose your shit any time someone disagrees with you, and you seem to stop yourself from having a discussion on any matter. You seem hellbent on destroying the conversation by insulting anyone and everyone with a different viewpoint. If you are like this in real life you must be quite lonely, and if so, that's a shame.
Anyway, say what you want. I won't argue back to you or even offer alternative viewpoints as you will just call me a fucktard or whatever like you usually do. |
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Also I never called you a fucking idiot, as I told you before. I said you were acting like one. However you have been acting like a dumb ass and calling people names long before that.. I've tried talking civil with you and you do nothing but act like an idiot, so now I just treat you like one. |
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and you cling to that simply so you can then make it personal shaming opportunity about irl. either way, i've tried to reset things with you, i've even offered you an olive branch in the past, and i've been more than civil to you while you make crass personal comments. |
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i've already rubbed your fucking nose in every single post you've made in your own fucking thread. :1orglaugh it's like shooting fish in a barrel, it's fun for a while but actually pretty fucking boring. i'll do it again whenever the fuck i feel like it. |
i'll even try again to support my previous comments that i've tried to get along,
if either of you two want to knock it the fuck off with the insults and attacks, i am capable of doing the same- as i've shown both of you in the past. that doesn't mean we're going to agree on shit, it means you and i will agree to disagree. it means that the name calling stops, it means the personal jabs stop. it means the character assassination stops. opportunity offered. a simple yes or no is all that's needed. oh, and i'll never stop stating "fuck" at a porn board named gofuckyourself. let's not pussify things. |
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Not viable at all for long range haulers. As I said already...for the foreseeable future, diesel will still be used for the trucking industry and taxes will still be collected. |
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It's like you trying to argue about the battery post I made wasn't a breakthrough because it might be expensive. You are seriously too ignorant to understand the basic concept, that new tech is almost always rare and expensive at first. When nicad batteries were first put on the market, they were expensive and only used on high end or very specific items. Now they are common place. You have to be a fucking fool to not understand this.. Your right wing radio has rotted the remaining brain cells the alcohol didn't already get.. |
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i've been known to play pretty rough with those two. that's why they're bro'n up right in this thread. |
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regardless. because you also are twisting my posts. a "breakthrough" in the laboratory in principle, is a minimum of 10 years away from application and closer to 20+. that has nothing to do with expense. it's the time factor to PROVE the chemistry. it's extremely complex testing and time-consuming. the blurb i quoted certainly included the expense but the point of the blurb was the fact that it's at least 10 years away from reality. i didn't think i had to explain that to you, based on your claiming you know what the fuck you're talking about. because anyone that's following battery technology and such, is fully aware of the time constraints in proving a viable SAFE battery for the masses. this is rocket science. |
don't worry, they'll find a way to tax the shit out of everyone as usual. Taxes are something governments are all very creative in, they'll make sure they won't lose a dime once the time has come - in fact, they'll make sure they make even more. Something new is a chance they always grab to let the people pay even more money.
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[QUOTE=dyna mo;20550840]there's **********, doing what ********** does best, judging others while looking down his nose doing a internet psych profile based on gfy.
nevertheless, EV is not THE future, battery technology has not had the breakthrough elon musk is waiting for, cordless 18v batteries = 20v, and coal is in peak production. true that 18v maybe the same as the 20v but I just got a new blower that is 58v and destroys my gas blower in terms of wind speed and lasts 40 minutes at full power and will charge fully in only 30 minutes.........how is that not an advancement? I would never use a gas blower or weed eater again. Yes this was at home depot that I bought it as well for a very good price. |
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I specifically stated there have been advances. i mean really people. go back and see my post where i am the one that stated in this thread that there have been incremental advances over the years of batteries. it's weird to me people just jump right over the fact. Again, what i've stated is exactly what i've learned from following elon musk, that there hasn't been a BREAKTHROUGH. |
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