and let's not forget, ********** is the guy who thinks an apology from a gfyer will cure his lingering resentment issues and allow him to change into a better person.

**********, an apology from me won't make you a better person. for you to claim it's OK to act like you act because someone else didn't apologize to you is simply just a child's excuse and reasoning.

i'm not in control of you **********, as much as you'd like to think that i am. people with integrity do not need apologies from strangers to force themselves to act respectable and keep shit above the belt.


i certainly do not expect better from you, you're the guy who exclaims that everyone who does not drive an EV should be punished while you drive around in, yup, a car with a gas engine. you're the guy that feigns outrage by my use of the word fuck while you insult my deceased mother with unrepeatable mean-spirited words.

Why are you crying so much? We are just treating you exactly how you treat us.. Man up and quit your whines, you are acting like a little girl.

you mean like how i offered you an opportunity to knock it off?
i don't see you treating me that way.

man up? you couldn't even acknowledge Robbie's compliment. talk about acting like a little child.

moreover, i've proven everything you claimed wrong in this thread. every fucking wild ass ridiculous claim you've hurled. so there's no reason for me or anyone to think you are right about anything, and in fact, as they have shown in this thread, no one does. the only reason ********** is trying to hi-5 you is he thinks the two of you combined can match wits with me.

but even with you two working together, it's beyond obvious you are both so far in over your head that the only desperate move either of you have is to make it personal, claim i have a medical condition just so you can then insult me about the wild ass medical condition you just fucking made up in your head.

So the question of taxing electric cars is now settled right? heh-heh

Would need the battery capacity to achieve the 500-800 mile range before any company would wanna add electric trucks to their fleet as a short range would create a backup of 48-53 foot trailers on an highway oasis ramp waiting to recharge which would block you from recharging your volt and refreshing yourself with an earth friendly beverage. :winkwink:

How fast is the recharge? Not gonna pay a guy $20-$30+ to sit there for 30-60 minutes considering there is already an 11 hour driving time regulation which could possibly be reduced in the future so don't have 30-60 minutes to waste as truck drivers are already in short supply and continuing to get worse...

Truck driver shortage gets desperate
These are the top 10 in-demand jobs of 2015 - Fortune

Initial Costs/Fuel Savings/Repair Costs analysis to replace a traditional tractor with an Electric tractor.

Canadian Volt drivers should probably foot 99.9% of it.

It's not a real electric car. :1orglaugh

I was kind of amazed that Tesla could do it. And Nissan could make the "Leaf" electric car as well.

And then the best Detroit could come up with was the Chevy Volt. I was in amazement that with all their infrastructure and history...they couldn't even make an electric car.

I would almost bet the farm that the unions have a lot to do with that. Union workers who "specialize" in the making of combustible engine cars would lose their jobs with the much simpler electric cars.
And the ones that didn't lose their jobs would have to be re-trained.

Think about it: No more need for people to build or install a transmission for instance. Or a starter motor. Or a hundred other things that are not required for an EV.

Detroit is fucked. That's why the U.S. auto industry isn't dominating the world like it should.
Don't get me wrong...it's still pretty damn dominant, which is a testament to the industry. But if they weren't shackled by unions and state govt. over regulating and taxing them...I believe that the Detroit auto industry would OWN the world again.

And that would bring new (different) jobs to Detroit with good wages. Just like it does in South Carolina, Tennessee, and other states where foreign car manufacturers have built plants free of Unions and brought good paying jobs to their areas.

guys, do you realize whenever you get in these page long debates with eachother that noone else is reading it? You're not gonna convince eachother, and everyone else doesnt read any of it. So you're pretty much wasting time. Just a tip :)

Yeah but odds are good enough that if he traded a Camaro for a hybrid that his next logical step will be to go full gay 100% electric so taxing on advanced stupidity makes sense. :thumbsup

Did ya mean that only for this thread or GFY in general? Thanks for your participation it will go unnoticed like the rest of the forum. :thumbsup

Ok tough guy.



Alright then Macho Man tough guy.


Hi Erect,

Yes I agree with you. 800 Mile range and fast recharging would be fantastic. Currently (ha!) I get about 50 miles and recharging takes 4 hours. Tesla's get about 200 miles in 20 minutes I think, and I would love to have that, which is why with any luck, I'll be buying a Tesla next year. Hopefully in the not too distance future though, batteries in all makes of cars and trucks will be at least 500 miles, with super-fast charge times.


Of course it is.

I can plug my car in at home and drive to the city and back on nothing but electricity. The motor that drives the wheels is 100% electric. When the battery is depleted, a gasoline engine kicks in that turns a generator that provides electricity to the electric motor that turns the wheels. You can also charge the battery while on gas, but that of course isn't an efficient use of energy.

You are selling GM short. It's actually a pretty amazing car. Not only is it electric, but it also solves the range anxiety problem that a lot of EV Haters use to bitch about. For typical use, it's pure EV. For long range trips, it's EV + Gas. It's great.

For someone people, cars (or motorcycles) define who they are. For me, I define who I am.

Peace.

**********, still exclaiming a chevy volt is electric.

he has too though, how else could he look down his nose at everyone?


makes sense coming from the guy who starts *look at me i scooped up a frog* threads

Dyna mo still whining..

crockofshitt still wrong.

It might Suprise you, but GM made and sold on a lease electric cars back in the 80s or 90s I forget which. The majority of the people whom leased them loved them, but at the end of the lease GM forced everyone to turn them In and then GM crushed them. Despite the previous users wanting to buy them.

Turns out big oil was in on getting GM to walk away from the electric car which could of been a success in the 80s and 90s. You should look up the documentary called "who killed the electric car"

They did LEASE them in the late 1990's. Never mass produced or sold (big oil and union made sure of that). It was called the EV1

Also electric cars were pretty big as far back as the late 1800's.

Matter of face the taxi cabs in New York City were electric over 100 years ago:
"The first taxicab company in New York City was the Samuel's Electric Carriage and Wagon Company, which began running 12 electric hansom cabs in July 1897. The company ran until 1898 with up to 62 cabs operating until it was reformed by its financiers to form the Electric Vehicle Company. The company then built the Electrobat electric car, and had up to 100 taxicabs running in total by 1899."

And now in 2015...Detroit still seems to be unable to match what was already being done in the 1890's. No wonder that town is in ruins.

it was the late 90s, when gas was a dollar a gallon at the pump, the ford expedition was king, & nobody bought them except california tree huggers. they had their chance in the market. & fizzled.

as far as a conspiracy by big oil to take it out, its plausible, but unlikely, cause there were so few of them relative to gas cars. what would an oil exec worry about? maybe GM simply did not want to support parts for such a project as it would be expensive. that would be more plausible than big-oil-made-them-do-it. LOL.

the fact you bring up propaganda crap as evidence of anything shows how much effort you make to inform yourself.

:)

crock's the same guy that correlates his perceived change in vendzilla's posting style to a change in my personality.

LOL! Wow you are one miserable guy... I hope you get some help for that soul-crushing depression you obviously have going on. Good luck to you.

Chevrolet markets it as a hybrid.

**********, do you really think an apology from me would solve your lingering resentments? do you really think an apology from a gfyer would solve the issues you have that cause you to gfy diagnosis someone with a serious disease simply so you can display your looking down you nose in pity at them?

let me know if you really think that an apology from me would make you that better person.

**********, just want to remind you of your out of the blue, drive-by comment to me on page 2 in this thread


according to your logic, i'm winning this argument. and this thread.


just sayin.:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Actually they prefer to say "range extended electric" than Hybrid, but I too like to call it a Hybrid.

It's ok, don't apologize. I wouldn't want you to do something you didn't like to do. And anyway, I don't care if you offer it or not. Just let it go... keep on being yourself.

I have no intentions of apologizing. I'm simply pointing out that an apolofy from me wont cure your lingering resentment issues that you are using as the excuse for not being a decent person.

They didn't fizzle, many people that had the leases tried to buy the cars outright but GM made them turn all the cars in and then crushed them. There is only 2 or 3 which survived the fate of being crushed and were sold to auto museums.

Dyna never waste a chance to jump on the hater bandwagon.. You are so cute.. :1orglaugh

Your vendzilla/dyna mo conspiracy theory is up there with your 18v ->20v battery breakthrough at home depot revelation.

So what are you saying, you have always been this crazy, but compared to Vendzilla you seemed tame? Is it now that Vendy isn't posting anymore that you stick out more?

So again I gotta ask....is anybody still discussing the road tax issue with electric cars? :(

Yep! I am.

If the tax goes towards paying for roads and bridges that's fine. Since the revenue that governments make on taxes added to gas would drop, it makes more sense to tax all cars on the miles driven, regardless of where they get their energy.

Or even better, don't make it a tax - just add more toll booths.

:disgust:disgust:disgust:disgust

Either way, I'm still snickering over your theory

I'll read this tomorrow while you're stuck in your cubicle and I'm lounging on the beach.

yeah. you wouldnt be saying that if you ever drove the garden state parkway before ezpass was invented. there were tolls booths every fucking 5 miles, each collecting a piss ass 35 cents. now theres only a dozen booths instead of a hundred. but it still sucks unless you have ezpass.

i know what happened. but yes, it fizzled. they produced 1100 cars from 96 - 99, thats 4 model years, 1100 cars. you know how many gas cars GM produced in that time? millions & millions & millions.

just because the leasees were greenpeace nutters didnt mean it was economically viable. You & i are talking different languages here. ill leave you to your beliefs.

GM never intended to mass produce them, they built the car as a lease only option with limited numbers and used it as a testing bed for EV tech.

It's however funny to see people pretend like they know everything after obviously quick look up of a Wikipedia page then becoming the local expert..

Actually, I work from home. But you already knew that.

Enjoy your time on the beach. Take the time to enjoy some nature and maybe you'll feel better. Good luck.

Also for anyone interested, there's a great documentary on EV's



It's a little depressing...

And then there's this one



Really good...

And yet there you are doing the exact same thing. lol

No I didn't.. I knew GM made the car and I knew the story behind it. Had I looked it up on wiki or anywhere else I would have obviously not had to guess its production dates as being 80s or 90s, or not known it's model name..

I used the knowledge I had to make my post.. I didn't have to go look it up on Wikipedia to pretend to be an Internet expert as you and josh g did..

the beach is always fun **********, even when i'm working there with volunteer organizations. what type of community efforts do you volunteer your time to **********? you were so excited about "rescuing" that frog it appears that was your first time helping something.

you were like a wide-eyed school girl rushing in to tell mommy about your big froggy save.

folks that routinely help others and contribute their time to their community are not phased by such acts, they scoop a frog out of water and go about their day, they don't go looking for accolades and recognition by starting threads about it.

and i feel just fine **********, i feel just as fine now as i did before you entered this thread and out of the blue pointed your crooked finger at me exclaiming wildly that i flip out with fuck fuck fucky fuck on people like you, and before your internet psych evaluation declaring me depressed so you can then point your crooked finger at me for being depressed.

based on this thread alone, it makes sense for you to at least check wiki prior to posting your "facts". that's a good place to start for the new to facts people like yourself.

after you get acclimated to that, *maybe* you can start working towards critical thinking. baby steps though.

LOL! Funny how you are still posting on GFY while "lounging on the beach".

To answer your questions: I actually don't volunteer for anything, but I have served food at Soup kitchens around Christmas, new toys to shelters, and once IKEA was selling teddy bears for $2.00, so I bought giant box of them and gave it to a foundation. Not as awesome as whatever you claim to be doing, but still.


Sorry you don't like my froggy save, but as you have already proven, you think animals are shit for you to step on. You would prefer I kill it, I know, but I'm not manly-man like you are I guess.


LOL! I didn't post it looking for recognition, and I certainly wouldn't expect any from you. You would have loved if I put it in a blender and sent you the video to jerk-off to I'm sure, but I'm not that kind of guy.

No, you don't. You're in denial. You are seriously depressed and mentally unstable and you're about to go psycho in a theatre any day now.


i feel just as fine now as i did before you entered this thread and out of the blue pointed your crooked finger at blah blah blah blah blah...[/QUOTE]

ZZZzz....

If you really are on the beach, stop reading now ok cupcake? Don't reply. Put your computer away, and go for a walk or a swim, or check out some bikini hotties, or thong boys - whatever you're into, and enjoy your day.

**********, you haven't heard of 4g LTE and cellular networks? weird since you're in here acting like you know wtf you're talking about while playing internet doctor on top of it.

4g LTE is a high-speed data network for mobile devices. it allows people to surf the web from mobile locations such as the beach.

first you claim i flip out with fucky fucks but when i don't you then exclaim i'm about to commit horrible violence irl on others by bringing in horrible tragedies combined with your internet psych profile just so you can point your crooked finger at me. i guess you ran out of ways to insult my mom, so know you resort to bizarre leaps of logic that are based on your insults.


and you wonder why people know you're a meanspirited person. :warning

Dyna Mo.. still dry humping the legs of his superiors..

resorting to "borrowing" 12clicks posts. tsk tsk. you're over your head here and have been since your op. you can't see that because you are not a bright bulb. dimwitted.

Why dont you go fetch some more wikipedia articles or youtube videos.

np, it's actually quite easy, here's a starter for you.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Critical_thinking


give it a whirl sometime, it may spare you the agony of being owned like you've been in your own thread.

Dynamo: GFY's #1 toughest Alpha dog. If it smells like piss in here, you can blame Dynamo.

i agree, i am a leader.

but the pee smell comes from your pissing on my generous opportunity i gave you to be a better person.