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k0nr4d 08-14-2015 01:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr Pheer (Post 20550491)

Here's a good question...
If you cancelled the server because $899/month is too much for you, how did you not notice you were still being billed $899/month for the past 5 months? When I get in a position where something is too much and I cancel it, I would damn sure notice if I got billed for it again the very next time it happened.

Easy - if the only thing I used a credit card for was that server, and I cancelled the server, I could see myself not even opening envelopes with monthly statements from Visa for 5 months.

ctggls 08-14-2015 01:38 AM

Why would you take on 13 months deal? Why not 6 or 12 ? Don't you know 13 is bad luck :D ?

Did you had some sort of benefits or discounts ?

Seems unreal to sign-up a fixed term contract that is going to auto-renew anyway, especially when it involves hosting ....

hentaiwebmaster 08-14-2015 01:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Denny (Post 20550494)
... And use Paypal next time.

Damn right!

hentaiwebmaster 08-14-2015 01:43 AM

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Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 20550500)
If you made a payment for your first month and ticked a terms and conditions box when you did you then you probably did.

Did you read what you were signing up for ?

I guess you know choppa terms and conditions?
Please share it here.

CurrentlySober 08-14-2015 01:50 AM

Stick to dreamhost... :2 cents:

hentaiwebmaster 08-14-2015 02:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CurrentlySober (Post 20550507)
Stick to dreamhost... :2 cents:

Dreamhost 9.99$/month back in 2003 when I had passion for this buissness lol
That is how I started.

AdultKing 08-14-2015 02:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hentaiwebmaster (Post 20550505)
I guess you know choppa terms and conditions?
Please share it here.

I don't know them, but you should have before you signed up.

What I am trying to say to you is that if you signed of on a quote for a 13 month rolling contract and didn't understand what you were agreeing to then that's your fault, not Choopa's.

It doesn't mater if Choopa servers are expensive or if they suck, that's not the point. The question is what did you agree to ?

_Richard_ 08-14-2015 02:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 20550512)
I don't know them, but you should have before you signed up.

What I am trying to say to you is that if you signed of on a quote for a 13 month rolling contract and didn't understand what you were agreeing to then that's your fault, not Choopa's.

It doesn't mater if Choopa servers are expensive or if they suck, that's not the point. The question is what did you agree to ?

:2 cents:

does the OP have the original contract?

CurrentlySober 08-14-2015 03:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hentaiwebmaster (Post 20550511)
Dreamhost 9.99$/month back in 2003 when I had passion for this buissness lol
That is how I started.

I still have a small account with them for some static legacy pages that I keep online after my retirement. Good luck with getting things resolved :)

EliteWebmaster 08-14-2015 03:43 AM

3. DURATION OF AGREEMENT AND CANCELLATION POLICY

3.1 The Initial Term shall begin upon confirmation of Your order or commencement of the Services to You and receipt of lawful funds. The term's length is chosen by You and shall be indicated when You order Our Services. This Agreement may not be terminated by You during the Initial Term (and any renewals thereof) except in the event of a breach by Choopa. After the Initial Term, this Agreement shall automatically renew for successive terms, equal in length to the Initial Term, unless terminated or canceled by either party as provided herein.

3.2 You must provide fourteen (14) days notice of non-renewal to Us should You not wish to renew this Agreement after the Initial Term. Choopa may terminate this Agreement at any time, without notice, in the event of nonpayment or violation of terms of service by You, if in Choopa's sole judgment You have in any way breached this Agreement ("Termination for Cause"). If you cancel any Service prior to the expiration of any Term, You understand and agree that Choopa will not issue You any refund whatsoever, including but not limited to any remaining pre-paid Fees, set up Fees, and/or special programming Fees).

3.3 Choopa may also terminate this Agreement in its sole discretion at any time for any reason or no reason. ("Termination without Cause"). In such case, Choopa will provide You with thirty (30) days written notice before the discontinuation of Services.

3.4 If Choopa cancels this Agreement pursuant to any of the terms outlined in this Agreement, with the exception of Termination without Cause pursuant to paragraph 3.3, Choopa shall not refund to You any fees paid or prepaid in advance of such cancellation and You shall be obligated to pay all fees and charges accrued prior to the effectiveness of such cancellation. In the event that Choopa terminates the Agreement for cause, all prepaid hosting fees will be forfeited and are not refundable. The termination of this Agreement does not relieve You of Your obligation to pay any Fees accrued or payable to Choopa.Com prior to the effective date of termination of this Agreement.

3.5 Cancellations must be done in writing via the support ticket system at https://my.choopa.com. We require You to cancel in writing so that We can confirm Your identity and to confirm with You that You are prepared for all of Your content to be removed from Our servers. Once We receive Your cancellation and have confirmed all necessary information with You via e-mail, We will inform You via email to the email address on file that Your account has been canceled. If You do not receive the confirmation email within twenty-four (24) hours after submitting Your cancellation request, please contact Us immediately via [email protected].

3.6 In addition to Choopa's right to terminate this Agreement provided elsewhere in this Agreement, Choopa may terminate this Agreement effective immediately if, based on Choopa's sole judgment, it determines that You or any of Your end-users: (a) have breached the Acceptable Use Policy ("AUP") as described in Section 12 of this Agreement, and incorporated herein, (b) have infringed or violated any intellectual property right or privacy or publicity right of a third party, (c) have not complied with any applicable law, statute or regulation, or (d) have uploaded, published or disseminated any images, text, graphics, code or video which Choopa considers illegal or high risk, in its discretion. Nothing contained in this Agreement is intended to, or shall, impose any duty or obligation upon Choopa to monitor or review Your Content or the content of Your end-users at any time. You remain solely responsible for Your Content, and any liability generated therefrom.

3.7 The termination of this Agreement will terminate Your access to the Services and Your license to the Host Materials (as defined in Section 5.2 of this Agreement). Choopa shall not be liable to You or to any third party for termination of the Services permitted under this agreement. Upon termination of this Agreement, Choopa reserves the right to maintain copies of Your data files and records for archival purposes, but does not undertake any obligation to do so. Choopa reserves the right to impose an early termination charge for all Services terminated prior to the last day of the billing cycle.

3.8 If either party cancels or terminates this Agreement for any reason, You shall be solely responsible for making all necessary arrangements for securing a replacement host and moving all electronic data, graphics, images, video or text to the new service provider. Upon termination of this Agreement, provisions that by their nature would be expected to survive termination shall survive and remain in full force and effect in accordance with their terms.

AdultKing 08-14-2015 05:27 AM

There you have it.

Quote:

3.2 You must provide fourteen (14) days notice of non-renewal to Us should You not wish to renew this Agreement after the Initial Term.
The OP entered into a contract, he has rolled over into the next term. So he is basically stuck until the current term expires.

Tulku 08-14-2015 05:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 20550604)
There you have it.



The OP entered into a contract, he has rolled over into the next term. So he is basically stuck until the current term expires.


Well the OP said he never signed/approved any contract with them. That means their terms added at some page didn't mean shit. Everyone can have some page with terms, but the contract must be signed/approved or something.

AdultKing 08-14-2015 06:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Tulku (Post 20550613)
Well the OP said he never signed/approved any contract with them. That means their terms added at some page didn't mean shit. Everyone can have some page with terms, but the contract must be signed/approved or something.

If the OP was sent a quote, that quote linked to the terms, he paid the first term and rolled over into a second term and now wants to cancel then he's out of luck.

As I said, it doesn't matter how crap Choopa might be, if that's the agreement that was made then the OP will need to wear it.

Colmike9 08-14-2015 07:27 AM

Well, I'm never using Choopa...

hentaiwebmaster 08-14-2015 07:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 20550604)
There you have it.



The OP entered into a contract, he has rolled over into the next term. So he is basically stuck until the current term expires.

They did not have terms and condition attached to my contract.
Did not check I agree to terms of conditions, it just asked for electronic signature.

hentaiwebmaster 08-14-2015 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by _Richard_ (Post 20550524)
:2 cents:

does the OP have the original contract?

I would post it here but don't have 30 posts yet so gfy doe not let me post pics.

xXXtesy10 08-14-2015 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by hentaiwebmaster (Post 20550679)
I would post it here but don't have 30 posts yet so gfy doe not let me post pics.

what site you run? :winkwink:

AdultKing 08-14-2015 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by xXXtesy10 (Post 20550680)
what site you run? :winkwink:

Yeah, I'd like to know that too :winkwink:

Colmike9 08-14-2015 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by hentaiwebmaster (Post 20550679)
I would post it here but don't have 30 posts yet so gfy doe not let me post pics.

Post a link, then

hentaiwebmaster 08-14-2015 08:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Colmike7 (Post 20550689)
Post a link, then

The following errors occurred with your submission:
1. You are only allowed to post URLs to other sites after you have made 30 posts or more.

AdultKing 08-14-2015 08:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hentaiwebmaster (Post 20550699)
The following errors occurred with your submission:
1. You are only allowed to post URLs to other sites after you have made 30 posts or more.

Create an account and upload it to Sign in - BBS PICS Image Hosting and I will post it.

Colmike9 08-14-2015 08:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hentaiwebmaster (Post 20550699)
The following errors occurred with your submission:
1. You are only allowed to post URLs to other sites after you have made 30 posts or more.

Then spell it out:
website dot com :upsidedow

Jigster715 08-14-2015 08:46 AM

istealhentai.com

AdultKing 08-14-2015 09:01 AM

*crickets*

sandman! 08-14-2015 10:17 AM

i dont think you will be getting a refund :2 cents::2 cents:

hentaiwebmaster 08-14-2015 10:54 AM

prntscr DOT com/84kpab

MrBottomTooth 08-14-2015 11:09 AM

Putting stuff like that in the terms is a dirty way of doing business.

baddog 08-14-2015 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by sandman! (Post 20550781)
i dont think you will be getting a refund :2 cents::2 cents:

That's why he wants to charge back.

The Porn Nerd 08-14-2015 11:45 AM

Contact your bank.

420 08-14-2015 11:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hentaiwebmaster (Post 20550826)
prntscr DOT com/84kpab

http://i.imgur.com/Xn7PTh2.png

plaster 08-14-2015 12:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hentaiwebmaster (Post 20550678)
They did not have terms and condition attached to my contract.
Did not check I agree to terms of conditions, it just asked for electronic signature.

Dude, it DOESN"T matter shit if you signed those terms or not. You didn't realize those terms because they are obviously well hidden.

Do you know how many chargebacks I get and the reason states:
Prove your customer was using the service.

Charge it back for the reasons I listed on page 1. They will credit you that money immediately. Then, if Choopa files a refute claim and they win, simply do a second chargeback and tell your bank rep. to include proof of use.

You didn't use it, you will win it. Be persistent and if bank rep says they can't do a second chargeback, talk to the manager. You will get your money back. And you need to do it quickly because there are time frame limits.

Colmike9 08-14-2015 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by 420 (Post 20550852)

The very first line should have been enough for anyone to not click Continue..

I'd contact your bank, though.

The Porn Nerd 08-14-2015 12:13 PM

Doesn't the word 'Choopa' mean 'ass rape' in Romanian?
That should've been your first clue.

Colmike9 08-14-2015 12:14 PM

Where's Phil and Pardo to help out?... :disgust

xXXtesy10 08-14-2015 12:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sandman! (Post 20550781)
i dont think you will be getting a refund :2 cents::2 cents:

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh :1orglaugh

xXXtesy10 08-14-2015 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Colmike7 (Post 20550867)
Where's Phil and Pardo to help out?... :disgust

http://i1-news.softpedia-static.com/...scles-On-2.jpg

sandman! 08-14-2015 12:17 PM

$450 a month per managed server is not that expansive i dont know what some of you guys are thinking.

Colmike9 08-14-2015 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by sandman! (Post 20550873)
$450 a month per managed server is not that expansive i dont know what some of you guys are thinking.

..I thought that was for one, my bad.

Still high, though..

pr0phet 08-14-2015 12:58 PM

Just chargeback, You will win easily. Those terms are bogus for Visa rebills.

Cyber Fucker 08-14-2015 01:00 PM

I like webair. No problems here.


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