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atom 08-18-2015 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20554139)
But what is wrong with abortion? In very simple terms, I got someone knocked up and wan't ready to have a baby. Twice in fact. I have no regrets at all. If I had a child before I was ready I would have never accomplished what I have.


jesus christ

dyna mo 08-18-2015 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by atom (Post 20554144)
jesus christ

the key part of that post was "in very simple terms".


:winkwink::upsidedow:)

crockett 08-18-2015 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20554135)
so based on crockett science, anti-abortion violence is committed by people who watch fox news and listen to certain republican lawmakers.


critical thinking.

Why are you still trying to make excuses for the nut jobs in your voting block? If Eco terrorist were running around killing exon executives I wouldn't make excuses for them, I'd condemned them..

Yet you can't even condem the actions of these right wing extremist.. Instead you deny, deny, deny and try to distract..

Yet.. Bigger question, is why don't we just call them terrorist? When it's the right wing everyone just calls them "far right" "radical".. Yet even in the 70s and 80s when it was long haired hippie dudes trying to save the trees or the whales they were called Eco terrorists..

So why don't we call these right wingers won incite violence terrorist? Why do you make excesses for terrorists Dyna mo?

dyna mo 08-18-2015 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by crockett (Post 20554155)
Why are you still trying to make excuses for the nut jobs in your voting block? If Eco terrorist were running around killing exon executives I wouldn't make excuses for them, I'd condemned them..

Yet you can't even condem the actions of these right wing extremist.. Instead you deny, deny, deny and try to distract..

i voted for Obama both terms, this abortion clinic violence has happened on his watch.

dyna mo 08-18-2015 11:04 AM

and i can guarantee crockett science has no idea what i just did there.

dyna mo 08-18-2015 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by crockett (Post 20554155)
Yet.. Bigger question, is why don't we just call them terrorist? When it's the right wing everyone just calls them "far right" "radical".. Yet even in the 70s and 80s when it was long haired hippie dudes trying to save the trees or the whales they were called Eco terrorists..

So why don't we call these right wingers won incite violence terrorist? Why do you make excesses for terrorists Dyna mo?

umm, crockett science, they are called terrorists. jtfc.


Domestic Terrorism | USAO | Department of Justice

crockett 08-18-2015 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20554161)
i voted for Obama both terms, this abortion clinic violence has happened on his watch.

Oh, so Dyna says "Thanks Obama" for making the right wing nuts..

TheSquealer 08-18-2015 11:38 AM

Fake outrage over a video of planned parenthood personnel negotiating the sale of fetus parts and showing them in a tray to ascertain the quality - and where the woman is joking about buying a Lamborghini with the money? "Fake"?

You are incredibly biased of course but any fucking lunatic can understand the reasons for the outrage even if you don't share the same views on abortion.

dyna mo 08-18-2015 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by crockett (Post 20554203)
Oh, so Dyna says "Thanks Obama" for making the right wing nuts..

and there's the proof that you have no clue what i just did there.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

dyna mo 08-18-2015 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 20554207)
Fake outrage over a video of planned parenthood personnel negotiating the sale of fetus parts and showing them in a tray to ascertain the quality - and where the woman is joking about buying a Lamborghini with the money? "Fake"?

You are incredibly biased of course but any fucking lunatic can understand the reasons for the outrage even if you don't share the same views on abortion.

and that is just one of many controversies surrounding planned parenthood, as you know. to handwave off the pp problems/complexity of the issues and use a simplified view of them to point a finger at 150 million republicans is, well, ....speaking of nutters.

crockett 08-18-2015 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20554173)
umm, crockett science, they are called terrorists. jtfc.


Domestic Terrorism | USAO | Department of Justice

I realize the FBI and DHS calls them terrorist but the media and talking heads always water it down calling them far right, anti govt groups or something less threatening than terrorist...

HelmutKohl 08-18-2015 01:10 PM

https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/i...8CSpfzKTxfi5ZA

dyna mo 08-18-2015 01:13 PM

sure ya did. that's what "everyone" means to you.


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Originally Posted by crockett (Post 20554155)
Why are you still trying to make excuses for the nut jobs in your voting block? If Eco terrorist were running around killing exon executives I wouldn't make excuses for them, I'd condemned them..

Yet you can't even condem the actions of these right wing extremist.. Instead you deny, deny, deny and try to distract..

Yet.. Bigger question, is why don't we just call them terrorist? When it's the right wing everyone just calls them "far right" "radical".. Yet even in the 70s and 80s when it was long haired hippie dudes trying to save the trees or the whales they were called Eco terrorists..

So why don't we call these right wingers won incite violence terrorist? Why do you make excesses for terrorists Dyna mo?


crockett 08-18-2015 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 20554207)
Fake outrage over a video of planned parenthood personnel negotiating the sale of fetus parts and showing them in a tray to ascertain the quality - and where the woman is joking about buying a Lamborghini with the money? "Fake"?

You are incredibly biased of course but any fucking lunatic can understand the reasons for the outrage even if you don't share the same views on abortion.

It's a common and well known thing which goes on. It's done for science and testing various things. Kinda like using dead bodies for diffrent shit when the person donates their self to science.. Did you know the good Dr. Ben Carson who is running for President on the Republican ticket has bought these fetus parts before to test with?

dyna mo 08-18-2015 03:13 PM

crockett science strikes again-

A homeless man who showed up for a job interview at a Wichita abortion clinic with a small bottle of gunpowder and a wick in his backpack didn't mean any harm, police said Tuesday.

The 19-year-old man had everything he owned in the backpack when he arrived for his interview Monday at the South Wind Women's Center, Wichita police spokesman Lt. James Espinoza said. Although the device could have blown off someone's fingers had it exploded in their hand, it was too small to damage the clinic, he added.


Police: Man With Gunpowder at Abortion Site Didn't Mean Harm - ABC News

Jesse Sharpton 08-18-2015 03:15 PM

Fuck republicans

TheSquealer 08-18-2015 04:04 PM

Gotta love the ceaseless vitriol and venomous, mean spirited attacks from "the tolerant side"

kadudu 08-18-2015 04:39 PM

It's interesting to see conservative posters on GFY. Would think you'd have to be mostly liberal to post on a porn webmaster site.

kane 08-18-2015 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20554024)
I don't understand this recent backlash against Planned Parenthood. Woe vs Wade is in fact the law of the land; There should be no discussions about abortion. At the same time, only 3% of Planned Parenthood deals with abortions. Even if you are dead set against abortions, you cannot be against 97% of what Planned Parent hood does - helping young disadvantaged women get through pregnancy.

Somewhere along the line we have lost common sense.

The outrage is mostly about recent videos that have surfaced showing people from planned parenthood offering to sell aborted fetal tissue. This may violate some certain laws on selling human tissue.

That said, you are correct abortions are only a small part of what planned parenthood does, but that doesn't stop some people from wanting to cut off the face to spite the nose.

dyna mo 08-18-2015 04:57 PM

Abortions are a HUGE part of what pp does. In fact, 36% of all abortions in the USA are funded by pp. And there are several controversies.

Phoenix 08-18-2015 05:55 PM

I think that people trying to insult each other's intelligence should really check what they have written before pressing the post button.

crockett 08-18-2015 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by kadudu (Post 20554470)
It's interesting to see conservative posters on GFY. Would think you'd have to be mostly liberal to post on a porn webmaster site.

They run amok here, which is why I have to troll them so much..

dyna mo 08-18-2015 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by crockett (Post 20554571)
They run amok here, which is why I have to troll them so much..

You mean that's why you twist and distort news stories such as this one.

crockett 08-18-2015 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20554580)
You mean that's why you twist and distort news stories such as this one.

Oh please.. At least 50% of what any of the current Republican candidates say is out right lies or intentional misinformation.. Yet you guys fall all over everything they say like its the gospel.

I just play the same games with you as they do.. Yet you get so bent out of shape when I do it.. :1orglaugh

2MuchMark 08-18-2015 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by crockett (Post 20554584)
Oh please.. At least 50% of what any of the current Republican candidates say is out right lies or intentional misinformation..

You've got that right that's for sure.

Debunking the Top 10 Most Egregious Republican Lies - The Daily Banter

PolitiFact Says Republicans Lie Three Times More Often Than Democrats, According To New Study | Mediaite

What Was The Biggest Republican Lie Of 2014?

My favourite:
Six Studies That Show Everything Republicans Say About the Economy is Wrong | Rolling Stone

dyna mo 08-18-2015 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by crockett (Post 20554584)
Oh please.. At least 50% of what any of the current Republican candidates say is out right lies or intentional misinformation.. Yet you guys fall all over everything they say like its the gospel.

I just play the same games with you as they do.. Yet you get so bent out of shape when I do it.. :1orglaugh

so your twisted and distorted logic is to exclaim that it's OK for you to twist and distort a news story, because a republican candidate did it.


i'm not surprised that's how you rationalize it.

dyna mo 08-18-2015 07:05 PM

your gal Hillary is quite the liar eh. i see you passed on including any of her lies. i'll dig a few up. it will only take a second, but culling down all her lies to a reasonably sized post might take some time.

dyna mo 08-18-2015 07:09 PM

here are just a few of Hillary's lies::::::

‘I remember landing under sniper fire.”

“I actually started criticizing the war in Iraq before [Obama] did.”

“We came out of the White House not only dead broke, but in debt.”

“I thought it would be easier to carry one device for my work.”

“The server contains personal communications from my husband and me.”

“I’ve never had a subpoena…Let’s take a deep breath here.”

“I did not e-mail any classified material to anyone on my e-mail. I’m certainly well aware of the classification requirements and did not send classified material.”

“Everything I did was permitted. There was no law. There was no regulation. There was nothing that did not give me the full authority to decide how I was going to communicate.”

dyna mo 08-18-2015 07:14 PM

oh shit, lookie here, some BO lies, oh noes.








"My position hasn’t changed" on using executive authority to address immigration issues.

Says his comment about extremists being a JV team "wasn’t specifically referring to" Islamic State.

"Most young Americans right now, they’re not covered" by health insurance.

"We’ve got close to 7 million Americans who have access to health care for the first time because of Medicaid expansion."

The "most realistic estimates" for jobs created by Keystone XL are "maybe 2,000 jobs during the construction of the pipeline."

"We have doubled the distance our cars will go on a gallon of gas."

"Throughout, we have kept Congress fully informed of our efforts" to create a legal framework on counterterrorism.

"If the House of Representatives fails to extend the middle-class tax cuts, 400,000 middle-class Rhode Island families will see their federal income taxes increase."

Says Mitt Romney "called the Arizona law a model for the nation."

"Under Gov. Romney's definition ... Donald Trump is a small business."

Because of Obamacare, "over the last two years, health care premiums have gone up -- it's true -- but they've gone up slower than any time in the last 50 years."

"Over the last four years, the deficit has gone up, but 90 percent of that is as a consequence of" President George W. Bush’s policies and the recession.

"Fast and Furious" began under the Bush administration.

"The only time government employment has gone down during a recession has been under me."

"Under the Romney/Ryan budget, interest rates on federal student loans would be allowed to double."

If the Supreme Court throws out the federal health care law, it "would be an unprecedented, extraordinary step of overturning a law that was passed by a strong majority of a democratically elected Congress."

"For the first time since 1990, American manufacturers are creating new jobs."

"Preventive care … saves money, for families, for businesses, for government, for everybody."

All False statements involving Barack Obama | PolitiFact

kane 08-18-2015 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20554486)
Abortions are a HUGE part of what pp does. In fact, 36% of all abortions in the USA are funded by pp. And there are several controversies.

According to Factcheck.org 3% of the total services provided by Planned Parenthood are abortions, although they estimate 10% of the clients have received an abortion, however federal funding, by law, cannot be used to finance abortions.

I don't know if I could qualify 3% and 10% as huge.

dyna mo 08-18-2015 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by kane (Post 20554611)
According to Factcheck.org 3% of the total services provided by Planned Parenthood are abortions, although they estimate 10% of the clients have received an abortion, however federal funding, by law, cannot be used to finance abortions.

I don't know if I could qualify 3% and 10% as huge.

That's 3% of their budget. Not % of all abortions in USA.

dyna mo 08-18-2015 08:34 PM

I stand corrected on the 36%, i should have fact checked first, thanks kane.

here's the reality, it's ~25% of all abortions:

if you want to understand how big a role abortion plays in Planned Parenthood’s care of pregnant women, just read its fine print. According to a “fact sheet” detailing its “services” for 2009, affiliates performed 332,278 abortions, saw 7,021 prenatal clients and made 977 adoption referrals.

That means for 97.6 percent of its 340,276 pregnant clients, abortion was Planned Parenthood’s provided “service".

Since 1970, Planned Parenthood’s involvement in the abortion business has grown tremendously. With each passing year, it performs more abortions, even though the national abortion rate has declined steadily since 1990. Today, Planned Parenthood performs and profits from one in every four abortions in the United States.

It is difficult to understand why the profitable Planned Parenthood needs such a large handout from the American taxpayer.

Nation's largest abortion provider: Planned Parenthood - Washington Times

Babaganoosh 08-18-2015 08:38 PM

http://www.truthdig.com/images/made/...fe_590_438.jpg

kane 08-18-2015 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20554623)
I stand corrected on the 36%, i should have fact checked first, thanks kane.

here's the reality, it's ~25% of all abortions:

if you want to understand how big a role abortion plays in Planned Parenthood?s care of pregnant women, just read its fine print. According to a ?fact sheet? detailing its ?services? for 2009, affiliates performed 332,278 abortions, saw 7,021 prenatal clients and made 977 adoption referrals.

That means for 97.6 percent of its 340,276 pregnant clients, abortion was Planned Parenthood?s provided ?service".

Since 1970, Planned Parenthood?s involvement in the abortion business has grown tremendously. With each passing year, it performs more abortions, even though the national abortion rate has declined steadily since 1990. Today, Planned Parenthood performs and profits from one in every four abortions in the United States.

It is difficult to understand why the profitable Planned Parenthood needs such a large handout from the American taxpayer.

Nation's largest abortion provider: Planned Parenthood - Washington Times

It is a big number, but it is all relative. That number of abortions still only represents about 10% of all the patients they see.

To put it into perspective, if they stopped doing abortions completely they would retain 90% of the clients/patients.

dyna mo 08-18-2015 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by kane (Post 20554669)
It is a big number, but it is all relative. That number of abortions still only represents about 10% of all the patients they see.

To put it into perspective, if they stopped doing abortions completely they would retain 90% of the clients/patients.

that's not what those numbers show at all. they show that 97.6% of all planned parent hood customers get abortions.

and that's not even the point. pp make a profit on abortions. they make a profit selling dead babies. do you really want your tax dollars to go to pp. kane?

kane 08-18-2015 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20554673)
that's not what those numbers show at all. they show that 97.6% of all planned parent hood customers get abortions.

and that's not even the point. pp make a profit on abortions. they make a profit selling dead babies. do you really want your tax dollars to go to pp. kane?

Let me quote from the Fact Check link I listed above.

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For example, Planned Parenthood said that it “provided nearly 11.4 million medical services for 3 million people” in 2009. Its 2011 fact sheet says it performed 332,278 abortion procedures in 2009. That would mean that roughly one out of every 10 clients received an abortion.
Roughly 10% of all their clients get abortions. 90% come there for other reasons like getting cheap or free birth control, STD screenings and treatments and cancer treatments.

Also:
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Planned Parenthood’s 2008-2009 annual report states that it received $363.2 million in "Government Grants and Contracts." (See page 29.) That’s about one-third of its total revenues for the fiscal year ending June 30, 2009.
which is followed by

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But Planned Parenthood cannot use the money it receives from the federal government for abortions anyway. According to the Department of Health and Human Service’s website, "by law, Title X funds may not be used in programs where abortion is a method of family planning."
The money they do get from the government can't be used for abortions.

I don't have any problem giving them money. Are they doing some shady things? Perhaps. I think we will find out more about that in the near future, but there are a lot of people that go there to get free birth control. The Guttmacher Institute reports that the number of abortions in this country has dropped quite a bit. In 1990 there were 1.6 million abortions. In 2011 that number had dropped to 1 million.

I am all for preventing people from getting pregnant so they don't end up getting abortions and I think Planned Parenthood does a lot of that.

Robbie 08-19-2015 12:34 AM

Even though Planned Parenthood doesn't "get money for abortions" from the govt., they do pay salaries with that money and build facilities and buy equipment. Saying that they don't spend the money on performing an abortion is kind of a gray area.

And I'm not arguing against abortion.

BUT...having said that, all the other things that Planned Parenthood does are all covered by ObamaCare anyway.
So WHY are taxpayers having to give them one thin dime?

There's absolutely no reason for it.

If Federal funding stopped tomorrow, they should still be able to be in business. And all of their customers (patients) will still be able to see them using ObamaCare.

kane 08-19-2015 12:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 20554692)
Even though Planned Parenthood doesn't "get money for abortions" from the govt., they do pay salaries with that money and build facilities and buy equipment. Saying that they don't spend the money on performing an abortion is kind of a gray area.

And I'm not arguing against abortion.

BUT...having said that, all the other things that Planned Parenthood does are all covered by ObamaCare anyway.
So WHY are taxpayers having to give them one thin dime?

There's absolutely no reason for it.

If Federal funding stopped tomorrow, they should still be able to be in business. And all of their customers (patients) will still be able to see them using ObamaCare.

There are 19 states that didn't expand Medicaid under Obamacare so if you live there and are poor you can't get the free insurance you could get in another state that did expand it.

crockett 08-19-2015 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Babaganoosh (Post 20554626)

This is pretty much the truth.. republicans and the Relgious right worry more about unborn fetus than they do a 2 year old kid.

I think it's just all about a superiority complex and trying to tell people what to do.

dyna mo 08-19-2015 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by kane (Post 20554683)
Let me quote from the Fact Check link I listed above.



Roughly 10% of all their clients get abortions. 90% come there for other reasons like getting cheap or free birth control, STD screenings and treatments and cancer treatments.

Also:


which is followed by



The money they do get from the government can't be used for abortions.

I don't have any problem giving them money. Are they doing some shady things? Perhaps. I think we will find out more about that in the near future, but there are a lot of people that go there to get free birth control. The Guttmacher Institute reports that the number of abortions in this country has dropped quite a bit. In 1990 there were 1.6 million abortions. In 2011 that number had dropped to 1 million.

I am all for preventing people from getting pregnant so they don't end up getting abortions and I think Planned Parenthood does a lot of that.

For Planned Parenthood abortion stats, ‘3 percent’ and ’94 percent’ are both misleading - The Washington Post


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