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WarChild 08-19-2015 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by geedub (Post 20555242)
Were you ever a cigarette smoker? Took me numerous tries before I quit for good. You're beating a series of mental addictions more than anything.. You light up habitually before/after/during so many things. It's a lot more complex than beating a physical addiction to nicotine.

I sure was. 2 packs a day throughout my late teens and all of my twenties. I quit for almost 10 years and started again foolishly. Fortunately I quit a year after and have been good since.

It's not easy. I "quit" probably 1000's of times. Every time I ran out of cigarettes, every time I went to bed. And you're totally right it's a huge mental game. Your brain starts convincing you that you DO want to smoke. It's not easy.

It is, however, simple. You just stop doing it. You don't get sick and die. You don't have a mental lapse and kill somebody. What you have is a slight feeling of something "missing" for about 72 hours, and then after that it's purely mental. Hard, but still very simple; Just don't smoke.

I would recommend the book "The Easy Way To Quit Smoking" by Allen Carr. It didn't make me quit, but it did give me a whole different perspective on smoking after I had already quit. It's an interesting read and worth the $10 or whatever it is in Ebook.

wehateporn 08-19-2015 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Deej (Post 20555241)
no see... it IS simple. but like warchild said... People are weak and cannot control themselves.

It really is as simple as putting the habit down. You can add all the addiction and self will crap you want. but when boiled down... its just that simple.

The Tobacco industry put all kinds of extra addictive crap in them these days, it's a lot harder to give up today than it once was

Jel 08-19-2015 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Deej (Post 20555241)
no see... it IS simple. but like warchild said... People are weak and cannot control themselves.

It really is as simple as putting the habit down. You can add all the addiction and self will crap you want. but when boiled down... its just that simple.

shut up. *you* may have found it easy, but you really think it's a case of simply being 'weak' for hundreds of millions of people globally? get off your fucking high horse lol. If I find something easy and you don't, does that make you 'weak'? what a crock of shit, spouted by those who feel themselves to be superior :2 cents:

Jel 08-19-2015 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by CurrentlySober (Post 20555400)
Dunno off the top of my head. If I remember I'll update this thread next week when I pick it up...

Its only like £20 / $30 so I'm not too worried about saving on it. 2 Packs of my normal cigs cost me just under £20 so no biggy...

only thing mate - if you go too cheap you won't get a decent hit, and disregard the whole vaping thing as shit (but shit shit, not good shit). The huge fuck off things that look like you should park them on the drive and bell them up overnight are OTT imo, if you want a recommendation on a VERY good piece of kit that is still fairly cheap (£60 for pen, spare battery, some cartridges and a bottle of juice iirc) remind me your addy and I'll email you :)

ErectMedia 08-19-2015 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Choopa Phil (Post 20555005)
Nicotine in general is more addictive than heroin. So is sugar.

The 2 things I consume like a crack head. :2 cents:

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Originally Posted by MrBottomTooth (Post 20555279)
I don't understand how people start. Took some puffs on a cigarette, coughed a bit. Stunk like shit afterwards. How do you say... I want more of that? Drugs and booze are easy to understand. Cigs, not so much.

I quit for over a year and then picked one up again and it tasted like shit and was like why da fuck do I do this. After a few more hits though it all comes back and tastes good again. Gotta try again to kick it. :2 cents:

CurrentlySober 08-20-2015 01:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Jel (Post 20555661)
only thing mate - if you go too cheap you won't get a decent hit, and disregard the whole vaping thing as shit (but shit shit, not good shit). The huge fuck off things that look like you should park them on the drive and bell them up overnight are OTT imo, if you want a recommendation on a VERY good piece of kit that is still fairly cheap (£60 for pen, spare battery, some cartridges and a bottle of juice iirc) remind me your addy and I'll email you :)

Sure - Thanks. I totally get what you mean. I'm gonna try the one I'm getting first of course, because I've already reserved a kit - Apparently they go fast from the shop so I have pre-paid :)

That said though, If I dont like it I'm totally open to suggestions so please do :)

My email? HOW CAN YOU FORGET ??? ilikepoo (AT) ilikepoo DOT com :1orglaugh

:)

mineistaken 08-20-2015 03:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Jel (Post 20555656)
shut up. *you* may have found it easy, but you really think it's a case of simply being 'weak' for hundreds of millions of people globally? get off your fucking high horse lol. If I find something easy and you don't, does that make you 'weak'? what a crock of shit, spouted by those who feel themselves to be superior :2 cents:

So it is hard to believe that hundreds of millions can be weak? Bare in mind that not all of them are trying to quit so the number is even smaller.
How much is that? 10% 20% max?
Is it that hard to believe that 20% of people are weak?

Jel 08-20-2015 04:02 AM

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Originally Posted by mineistaken (Post 20555943)
So it is hard to believe that hundreds of millions can be weak? Bare in mind that not all of them are trying to quit so the number is even smaller.
How much is that? 10% 20% max?
Is it that hard to believe that 20% of people are weak?

more addictive than heroin, yet you are 'weak' if you can't just put it down one day. Lots of people are casual heroin users, does it mean the addicts are 'weak' because they can't just stop using with a click of the fingers?

And it's more like hundreds of millions who would prefer not to be smokers, not a %age of all smokers - the vast majority of those who would like to quit but are addicted find it extremely tough, so it's actually the small %age who find it easy. How the fuck this correlates to the majority being 'weak' I don't know.

What a fucking stupid argument lol, and what a cunts position to take... "I am strong because I did this incredibly hard thing (fair enough with that part - it *is* hard, unless you are lucky and differ from the vast vast majority of people on earth who develop addictions), and you are weak because you are different from me, unique in yourself, and I want to give myself a reacharound". Really, people who think like this are so fucking pompous... how can anyone be so fucking stupid as to assume everyone has the exact same traits and physiological/psychological makeup as themselves, and not only that, feel the need to declare those other people 'weak'. How about showing a bit of humbleness and realising they are one of the lucky minority who find something easy that goes against the norm. Guess they are in that group of people with low self-esteem who only feel better about themselves when they berate others for not being able to do something they can.

cocksuckers.

Jel 08-20-2015 04:05 AM

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Originally Posted by CurrentlySober (Post 20555818)
Sure - Thanks. I totally get what you mean. I'm gonna try the one I'm getting first of course, because I've already reserved a kit - Apparently they go fast from the shop so I have pre-paid :)

That said though, If I dont like it I'm totally open to suggestions so please do :)

My email? HOW CAN YOU FORGET ??? ilikepoo (AT) ilikepoo DOT com :1orglaugh

:)

fuck, how did I forget that lol - I'll bang you over an email later for reference should you need it :thumbsup

aka123 08-20-2015 04:58 AM

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Originally Posted by mineistaken (Post 20555943)
So it is hard to believe that hundreds of millions can be weak? Bare in mind that not all of them are trying to quit so the number is even smaller.
How much is that? 10% 20% max?
Is it that hard to believe that 20% of people are weak?

There are 2 main problems with many addicts (in the terms of quitting): they don't recognize being addicted and they don't really want to quit in the first place. Though you can't quit addiction, but you know.. quitting using the addicting substance/ what ever causes the addiction.

For example directly translated from my language people don't usually "quit" smoking, they are "on strike" (strike is temporary). I have smoked myself and first of all I acknowledge that I am addict for the rest of my life and secondly I did quit, I wasn't on strike. I intentionally chose the right word from the start, as I know that words matter (common way to psych yourself). I did quit about 10 years ago.

CurrentlySober 08-20-2015 05:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Jel (Post 20555957)
fuck, how did I forget that lol - I'll bang you over an email later for reference should you need it :thumbsup

Cheers!

FIDDY VAPERS!!!

j3rkules 08-20-2015 06:03 AM

Smoked 20 a day for 22 years. Started e-cig January 2012 - had quit completely by May 2012. Nicotine free ever since.
Smoked 20 a day for 22 years. Started e-cig January 2012 - had quit completely by May 2012. Nicotine free ever since.

Choopa Phil 08-20-2015 07:01 AM

If you want as close of a hit to a normal cig, then you're going to want to get something with Sub-Ohm capability and most likely a drip style RDA. There are only a few tanks out there that can handle serious power. The Horizon Arctic, and their newest the Phantom - Horizon Phantom Sub-Ohm Tank

This is my current setup:

Mod - Black IPV3 Li V2 165 Watt Temperature Control Box Mod by Pioneer4you Greenleaf
RDA - BAAL RDA by El Diablo Philippines – Vapor Jedi E-Cigs Eliquid And Accessories
24G Nichrome wrapped with 32G Kanthal - .3 Ohm Clapton Coil

scarlettcontent 08-20-2015 08:13 AM

good news!

PR_Glen 08-20-2015 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by mineistaken (Post 20555454)
Never understood smokers - harming their body in a major way and paying for it.
And don't say it is THAT addictive. That must be an excuse for weak people.

It's laced with chemically engineered substances so powerful it literally keeps you addicted for life and you are talking about weakness? Start up for a month then quit, tell me how that goes and how 'strong' you are.

oh and no, i never have myself, i just don't have my head buried in the sand like most around here it seems. vaping is just a band aid until they figure out that is unhealthy in 10 different ways, the bottom line is the studies for that are all very new and based on short term affects.


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