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Rochard

08-20-2015 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Axeman (Post 20556512)

You are so ridiculous it makes my head hurt sometimes. Nobody is saying to retroactively take away citizenship. People are making the argument to change it going forward. Of course you know this, and just like to kick and scream and act irrational to try extra hard to make your point.

Really, because it sounds exactly what Trump is talking about.

Donald Trump clashed with Bill O?Reilly on Tuesday night over the part of his immigration plan that would take away citizenship from the children who were born in the United States but whose parents came to the country illegally.

Donald Trump 2016: To Bill O'Reilly, Trump says 14th Amendment is unconstitutional - POLITICO

TCLGirls

08-20-2015 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 20556540)

Jesus....are you just trolling? Freedom of speech protects ALL speech. And yes Ben Franklin loved dirty pictures and prostitutes.

Actually you are wrong. Freedom of speech does not protect all speech...CP for example is not protected by the first amendment. Neither is slander/defamation.

But anyhow that is besides the point. If the first amendment protects ideas that weren't originally envisioned by its authors, then so too the 14th amendment.

kane	08-20-2015 05:24 PM

To me the anchor baby question should be very simple. Is one of the parents a US citizen? If so, the baby is a US citizen. If not, the baby is not.

Axeman

08-20-2015 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by kane (Post 20556587)

To me the anchor baby question should be very simple. Is one of the parents a US citizen? If so, the baby is a US citizen. If not, the baby is not.

Agreed. That is the way it should be. The Supreme Court already made it so perm residents children also get this right. But that should be the only exceptions.

JuicyBunny

08-20-2015 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20556432)

Trump, the bell tolls for thee!

not.

he's 6 points out from HIlls, when she drops out and the DNC falls into complete disarray, he'll be standing alone at the top of both party's heaps of candidates.

+1 - What was Hilly thinking?

kane	08-20-2015 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Axeman (Post 20556595)

Agreed. That is the way it should be. The Supreme Court already made it so perm residents children also get this right. But that should be the only exceptions.

If a person is a permanent legal resident of the US, I don't have a problem with their baby being a US citizen.

I just don't like seeing illegals coming here, having kids and then since the kids are US citizens it makes it harder to deport the parents, not to mention the system now supporting the families.

Axeman

08-20-2015 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by kane (Post 20556607)

Totally agree with you.

TCLGirls

08-20-2015 05:58 PM

As of right now, foreigners on Student Visa can also have anchor babies. That's how GOP presidential candidate Bobby Jindal became a US Citizen. His father came to the US on a student visa. Then he brought his wife over here too (who was already 8 months pregnant). Then Little Bobby came out soon after.

And there are "Birth Tourism" packages being sold all over wealthier Asian countries these days. One-year tourist visas (which can be auto extended for 2 years) allows non-pregnant tourists to come to the US, then get pregnant while on US soil.

But I wouldn't think those people are any less American just because of that.

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