Ya you're not crying... but for no reason you point out to us how you are biracial and you know alllll about racism. But sure... you're not crying right?

Ya what a dumb ass approach... Not wanting people who have completely different ideologies which have already proven difficulty assimilating into different cultures a free entry pass. Ya how stupid is that!!

Blah Blah Blah more euro trash. Remember this thread when it moves into your neighborhood.

No sorry I don't hang out in "pubs" anymore. I'm not 18 years old. If I wanted to hang out with societies lowest common denominator I would just ask to be invited over to your house for dinner.

I watched the news .the immigrants were crossing the boarders illegal that was all

A Muslim terrorist family :upsidedow

http://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/624/cps...3805fddab1.jpg

those damn leeching terrorists...

http://cdn3.spiegel.de/images/image-...eryV9-pwal.jpg

http://cdn4.spiegel.de/images/image-...eryV9-soqp.jpg

http://cdn4.spiegel.de/images/image-...eryV9-zubu.jpg

http://cdn1.spiegel.de/images/image-...eryV9-kjtk.jpg

http://cdn2.spiegel.de/images/image-...eryV9-inmu.jpg

Idiot, they shot AFTER those illegals stormed the cops etc.

"just shooting" is completely different thing.

Moron, he explained to you that they left war zone and were perfectly safe in Turkey.
Fleeing further ceases them being refugees and makes them just illegal economical migrants.


You sounds like a really stupid person to answer logical statements with irrelevant nonsense like that.

Who said that they are terrorists? If anybody said that he/she meant a small portion of them.
Ridiculous contra argument.

Also - why can't they be terrorists? Because they have kids? Or because they have feelings? How does those photos "prove" that those are definitely not terrorists?
Terrorists can have kids, terrorists can have feelings and be sad or even cry in bad situations too.
When you come illegally into someones house and get caught - you also can put a sad face.
That does not change fact that you made a crime.

So stop playing on peoples feelings and talk facts.

Now on the leeching part - you are absolutely correct.

Those ALL are ILLEGAL ECONOMICAL MIGRANTS.
They stopped being war refugees once they reached first non war country.
FACT on FACT.

Any European who is ok with them flooding the continent is a parasite of his own continent/country.

ya speaking of "for no reason" you insult me on the first post I ever made on this site "for no reason" Have a little respect for for people...or you can take your opinion....turn it side ways and stick it up your candy ass :pimp

You are nothing but a race bating troll that tries (too) hard fitting in with the right wing US crowd while probably sitting in some shithole and jerking off to your own delusions

you make me sick

Sorry for the off topic. Please send me your mail so we can chat. If you do not mind you can leave it here or send me the private message.

Holy crap you are stupid. It is mind boggling honestly.

Of course it would be great to save everyone, hold hands, and everyone be in complete peace. But then there is the reality that there is limited resources in the world to accomplish this.

What don't you understand honestly?

No one even cares about race accept you. It's reality Europe cannot support this influx. There is limited systematic resources. It's that simple.

There is "I'm mr. good guy" (you). Then there is REALITY where certain people have to make very tough choices so the less intelligent (you) can go on with their lives thinking that they are good people oblivious to what the real world is like.

How many migrants will you be employing? How many migrant workers will you be housing? How many migrant workers will you be paying health services for? Why do some of you people think these things are magically created within the system and it's an unlimited sum game.

Isn't Poland empty? You no longer hear English spoken in SE England streets anymore, it's all Polish.

Maybe it's just the camera angle but that para-military policeman or (soldier?) has the look of shame. The shame and remorse for following orders.

http://cdn1.spiegel.de/images/image-...eryV9-kjtk.jpg

You're that weak minded that your best argument is your assumption of someones look in a random photo (that you admit may just be an angle)? Wow you get dumber by the minute.

Let me guess when you see the crying African kids on TV you donate your entire savings. But you really care so much.

Hypocrite.

it's convenient for the OP to leave out the Syrian Civil war (and the fucking fact that's where the shit started in Syria) so he can place blame squarely on the USA/west just to play the sympathy card about these refugees at mecedonia

this thread is like a sally struthers commercial

He is our typical all American patriotic nationalistic right wing low IQ screamer.

His occupation is unclear. Probably on welfare in need of money:

$10.000 for a b/g scene :1orglaugh The whole post sounds like an overestimated narcisist...

Since when do you give a fuck about Europe?:

Owh wait... now you sound more like MetaMan:

I don't want you to care about Europe... please stay in your shithole... and suck a mexican cock at the border....

Really, war refugees are nothing new ... But they are not all Syrians many are Iraqis and Afghans too. Whose wars made them refugees?

Where is the UN? Or the Red Cross or Red Crescent? Seriously.

In the past 6 months boatloads of refugees have capsized with multiple fatalities in the Mediterranean.

You don't give a shit -- fine. But this is not going to go away ...

who says i don't give a shit just because i view the problem realistically? and who thinks giving a shit means playing captain save a refugee?

should we attack macedonia on behalf of the refugees?

should USA ORDER macedonia to take those refugees?

should USA send Boeing 757s to go get those refugees and bring them here and put them under an overpass in Miami?

just what is this sally struthers thread asking us to do to show/prove our giving a shit about this in macedonia?

i mean jtfc, of course most all of us care about innocent children being used as shields, but again, just what is it you want me to do here?

Do you have any knowledge about the Kurds, Alawites, sunnies or shia?

Why don't you read a little bit and you would understand usually when a said sect is in power the other sects are marginalized and become "refugees" in their own country.

Assads own Alawites sect were forced into the mountains years ago. There has been a power struggle long before these wars. These are tribal units who for the most part dont care what a Syria is or what map you draw.

You just don't get it. Your brain is to small to comprehend such complex issues so you resort to looking a pictures like a little child and playing imagination.

Well, what do you propose;

Send them back?
Ignore the problem and hope it goes away?
Exterminate them and end the problem?
Maybe, Monday there will be some discussions in Putin's Russia or with the Ayatollah in Iran?

Those people are the EU's responsibility now -- they are in Greece. The Greeks are in a bad situation. Ultimately; the EU, NATO and the USA have to take responsibility -- these people are fleeing the wars that we are fighting -- badly I might add -- for 12 years now.

This was not so much of a problem a year ago.

They are not an army or a group of terrorists using their children as shields. If you became a refugee from a war zone would you abandon your wife and children and flee to save your own ass?

You don't have any position to stand on ...

Send them back. And continue to send them back. If a stern message is sent then others will be informed that the journey is pointless.

This is not EUs issue. This is a middle east issue. Secrtarian wars are in their blood lines. This existed long before even the ottoman empire or before the lines of Iraq, Syria or Afganistan were drawn.

A stern message needs to be sent that the EU will not be a refugee dumping ground. Especially a group with an ideology completely opposite of european values.

WW2 European Values ...

I could add WW1 for JUST the last 100 years ...

Total War Deaths by Nation:
(in some cases, numbers are averaged from multiple sources due to discrepancies).


Soviet Union: 25,000,000
Germany: 8,000,000
Poland: 5,720,000
Yugoslavia: 1,363,500
Romania: 800,000
Hungary: 580,000
France: 550,000
Italy: 454,600
United Kingdom: 450,900
United States: 418,500
Lithuania: 350,000
Czechoslovakia: 325,000
Greece: 563,500
Netherlands: 301,000
Latvia: 230,000
Austria: 120,000
Finland: 97,000
Belgium: 88,000
Estonia: 50,000
Canada: 45,400
Australia: 40,400
Albania: 30,000
Bulgaria: 25,000
New Zealand: 11,900
South Africa: 11,900
Norway: 9,500
Denmark: 3,200
Luxembourg: 2,000
Ireland: 200
Turkey: 200
Iceland: 200
Switzerland: 100




Military Deaths (approximate):


Soviet Union: 9,750,000
Germany: 5,533,000
Yugoslavia: 446,000
United States: 416,800
Great Britain: 382,700
Italy: 301,400
Romania: 300,000
Poland: 240,000
France: 217,600
Finland: 95,000
Canada: 45,300
Australia: 39,800
Bulgaria: 22,000
Netherlands: 21,000
Belgium: 12,100
New Zealand: 11,900
South Africa: 11,900
Spain: 4,500
Norway: 3,000
Denmark: 2,100


Civilian Deaths by Nation (approximate)

Soviet Union: 13,204,000
Poland: 2,400,000
Germany: 2,035,000
Yugoslavia: 514,000
France: 267,000
Netherlands: 176,000
Italy: 145,100
Great Britain: 67,100
Romania: 64,000
Austria: 58,700
Belgium: 49,600
Spain: 10,000
Norway: 5,800
Bulgaria: 3,000
Finland: 2,000
United States:1,700

absolutely send them back, deny them illegal entry.

but let's be clear: they're on their way to the shcengen area (i.e. europe). and there's what, a million of them expected. so they'll just go around if you do not send them back.

how much will a million muslim refugees cost Europe?

i understand 750,000 of these Muslim refugees are expected to land in Germany in the next year alone. they get there via macedonia.

Gee,... and here I thought you could just take a run at a nations border and not be stopped, no matter what the country.

You would send unarmed civilian refugees back into a war zone where our country and other NATO allies are either actively fighting or funding the fighting then?

I am not happy they are there illegally but I know why they are there -- their county has become a war zone that my country and its European allies have been fighting in that area with no real success for over 12 declared years.

These wars have cost;


https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...a60_story.html

That doesn't include the costs of refugees or the war damages in the area ...

Damn, I thought it was closer to $1.5 trillion.
So, we can afford (a war debt of) $4 to $6 Trillion but can't afford to pay for the refugees we create?
We really fucked ourselves good and we just hand the same people that we claim to help back to hostile governments and ISIS. Talk about stupid ...

There's still alot of people here, although you guys took quite a bit of our skilled workers and definately took a TON of the useless riff-raff :thumbsup

Media always makes photos like this. I saw the whole set, for all we know there could have been like 5 kids there altogether...

This is how more serious countries tackle this challenge:
Rwanda confirms Israel talks on hosting African immigrants - News

http://i.imgur.com/faQVRak.jpg

He's not a terrorist, but he's a Syrian rebel leader: Syrian rebel leader seeks Europe _ fleeing gov't and jihadis - Yahoo News

This is what scares me- not the women and children that are crying at the border.

It's the classic example of inheriting another person's problems. The question is how many of these people is Rwanda or Uganda prepared to take in and what are the possible future implications to this transfer of problems?

All these Syrian and Libyan refugees should be housed in the well to do neighborhoods where the French, British, Saudi, Turkish, and American politicians who instigated and perpetuated the civil war call home. At the expense of all the banking networks that funnel dollars to the Jihadists and various armed groups.

The people in the west live in inactive democracies. We have no control over foreign policy and in the end we will pay the price when all the Mohammed and Ali of the world come setting up shop in our own neighborhoods, at our expense, and to the everlasting demographics and cultural change of our countries. Meanwhile those responsible will be behind their gated walls and island mansions.

I'm sure Israelis thought a lot about that issue and made the right decision.

All those politicians use price system to discriminate. They live in rich neighborhoods where one apartment costs more than one immigrant can earn in his lifetime. For example, Trump can say he'll accept any immigrant in his Trump Tower, but I doubt many of those people could pay 65 000$ month rent.

Let me write you something about how things really look here. This is extreme muslim migration. There were wars in Syria,Libya,Afghanistan for years, but suddenly they are all starting to come into Europe, now?

I am writing you from Belgrade ,Serbia. Probably only country that is letting them in without problems (how stupid you must be to let them inside after all that mess that muslims did, and currently doing?). City of Belgrade is flooded with muslims. This is SERIOUS and HEAVY shit, european country is becoming muslim in only several weeks.

I can't believe what da fuck is going on,I am seeing them on every fucking corner. Females with all that shit over their heads and male faces like you are watching on youtube allah akbar videos. They look like animals. And yes they are, just watch how they look at females here, ready to rape them.(and there were rape attempt last week near my home, made by one of those refugees)

There are two simple things: there are rich muslim countries that should let them there. Why that is not happening? Second, USA and EU made all that shit by supporting savages against civilized and legitimate regimes in Syria,Libya..... They should take them now. Of course, they will end on European soil while US is laughing to idiots letting enemies inside.

Only stupid or person without any real experience can't see that this is extreme security problem and that you are just letting thousand military capable men inside civilized world. This is going to be disaster, especially for shitty state in Balkans where next war will emerge.

Muslims can't be integrated inside western society. It is so simple. (just like any other religious extremists). What I am noticing is that 95% of them are young and capable men. There are some kids that are used to be photographed for news. I am driving near those centers where they are now (they are not forced to be there, they are free to walk, buy,do whatever they want to do) and there is no so much children at all, like you are seeing on reports.

There are already two extreme muslim states in Europe that US created. Bosnia and Kosovo.

Inside Kacanik, Kosovo's jihadist capital - Telegraph

Smart countries like Hungary made a fence and are doing everything to send them to other places. Europe will stop letting them in at some point but they will stay in Bosnia , Kosovo or Serbia (american puppet regime on power). If you think this shit is far from you,you are so fucking wrong, muslims are getting in while we are talking.

And don't be fooled, in previous week Macedonians were helping them to go further, to Serbia , gave them advices, trains, whatever it takes, just to get da fuck out.

What some of you are not getting is that this is muslim invasion. Simple as that. Same principle was used decades ago in Kosovo, they were coming in masses from Albania. After few generation,s they took over with all their sick rules in everyday life.

While we are talking they are coming on from Macedonia,take a look at a report from last night:

https://translate.google.com/transla...ata&edit-text=

https://translate.google.com/transla...ata&edit-text=

^^ We know Serbs hate Muslims and have no problem with exterminating them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XzUzUYp9JiU




This is not going to go away nor can you wall in the shores of Europe.

The most reasonable thing may be to create a safe refugee haven and the world governments will have to agree to fund it. These same governments' wars that they fund that cause the war refugee problems are their responsibility to pay for.

If I get a tax bill surcharge of $1,000.00 to pay for the displaced persons that my government's wars have caused maybe I would think differently.


The USA, NATO, Assad regime, Russia and Iran (they fund and assist the Assad regime) are financially and morally responsible for the Syrian war refugees -- they are all combatants or the "boogieman" in the Syrian Civil War. The Afghan war refugees are the responsibility of the USA. The Iraqi refugees are the financial and moral responsibility of the USA and Iran by reason of their their continuous military and now political interference that has been going on since the "Tanker Wars" 1984-1988 to this day.

They are just getting passage through Serbia to the Hungarian border were they will face a Hungarian border fence. Unless a safe refuge is established for them be transported to in the EU they will be stuck in a hard spot between hostile Serbs and Hungarians.

The EU Commission and the US State Department are open for business Monday ... This might get messy as this may become precedent encouraging more refugees to seek safe harbor.

Google "
How many refugees are there in Syria?
According to the United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees (UNHCR), over 3 million have fled to Syria's immediate neighbours Turkey, Lebanon, Jordan and Iraq. 6.5 million are internally displaced within Syria.

You cannot dismiss this as a minor issue and limited occurrence :2 cents:

Lucky Canada did not push you back to sea ... or back to Ukraine a few decennies ago :2 cents:

nice post .. and spot on :thumbsup

Here these same refugees in Macedonia are rejecting red cross help whilst yelling "not halal"... There's like a handful of kids, it's 99% men around 30-40 years old.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

times must be real bad for those guys, oops, i mean war refugees, to deny food because it's not halal. the horror.

but hey, America needs to settle those guys, on account of some made-up malarky about how we displaced them. better hire a bunch of sharia approved chefs or the war refugees may go on a hunger strike next.

:1orglaugh