That's a TEC-DC9 9-mm semi-automatic handgun:2 cents:

And who gave birth to, parented and educated millennials? Baby Boomers. Society and culture don't change overnight but in America things do change quickly from a history of civilization perspective.

Well put Barry.

Well put Eon.

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oh thanks for the laugh you must be really really desperate, so police are "on the take" in my country and the murderers know the exact policeman to bribe, that will somehow, appear to investigate the murder? :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh sounds legit :thumbsup

the sad truth is that serbia is much much much much safer than the USA...dude we have ZERO gangs...there is not one single piece of gang territory in our entire country...we had these biker dudes who dressed up but did not commit crimes they were just biker enthusiasts, they got called a gang :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh




ok ill try to be polite towards your US education, click X on the map to close the screen and you will find its a wiki article about the THIRD WORLD that obviously is detrimental to your argument and its always fun educating americans on difficult things like learning to read ect :thumbsup

that ethnic cleansing you and your komrades committed paved the way for a gang-free safe nation eh.

i get where you're coming from.

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definition of desperation: dynamo accusing a former refugee - me - of being an ethnic cleaner because I fled to serbia, that did not take part in the war at all :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

hint: its called the bosnian war/war in bosnia because it took part in serbia? LOL

what is a hint you ask? its like a clue, a significant notion based on common sense, its mysterious and puzzles your tiny brain I know but if you concentrate enough you will maybe get to wrap your tiny tiny brain around it :thumbsup

and speaking of ethnic cleansing, the USA dropped more bombs on vietnam than all sides, allies and axis included, and used more chemical weapons than all WW2 and WW1...mother fukka you guys even carpet bombed cambodia just for good measure...and before that you nuked jap fishermen....

tell me, what does the USA have against asians? :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

seriously....

List of some of the Serbian gangs ...
Surčin clan
Zemun clan
?arić gang
Vo?dovac clan.
Zvezdara clan
Dorćol group
Karaburma group
Rumski Gang group
Peca's gang
Arkan network
Elez group
Zemun Clan
Keka's group
?arić's clan
Serbian Brotherhood
Pink Panthers gang

First, Second, and Third World - Nations Online Project

Look at the map on there, idiot.

Keep calling me an American, it's funny.

ahh dont be mad when foreigners speak up. this is a web forum on an interweb. they talk about america because they sweat america like the media sweats the kardashians. everyone loves america even the haters.

im not sure drug & alcohol bans are good comparables for guns. primarily because drugs & liquor are party necessities for a lot of people. the demand for drugs is insatiable. No matter how much education about drugs is hammered into kids at school, everyone still likes to get drunk get high when its friday night.

Im not sure the same demand would stand for guns. just IMO.

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hey anti-American, bosnian serbs carried out the genocide, umm srebrenica, hello, but just like your genocidal komrades, you continue to deny it and exclaim you're a fucking war refugee.

spin it however you need to try and make that bomb crater you sleep in more comfortable.

just like you spin USA dropping more bombs over 20 years v bombs dropped in 4 years.

As history shows; simply one of the most idiotic statements ever made.

i'm not the slightest bit mad when foreigners speak up. but i'm not going to not opine when they speak from a place of ignorance in order to justify their ridicule of the USA.

and prohibition era is a fantastic and perfect comparison.

No wonder you never understand reality.

In 1919, Prohibition was marketed as a solution to crime, alcoholism and violence against women. Without ?demon rum,? workers would become more productive and violent tendencies in society would disappear. Proponents believed it was the beginning of a golden age and that the alcohol ban would radically transform society for the good.

Prohibition did radically transform American society, only not in the way the proponents envisioned. Rather, the result was more alcoholism, the beginning of organized crime and a wave of violence like none ever seen before in America. Instead of a golden era, Prohibition unleashed one of the most violent and crime-ridden ages in American history.

Every decade or so, Americans become entranced by the same siren song that produced Prohibition. The song says, ?If you ban it, it will go away.? It croons, ?If we merely strip away our liberties, we?ll all be safer.? History has shown us that this siren song is dangerous.

Gun control proponents like to point out that strict gun control measures in nations like Australia and the United Kingdom have led to fewer mass shootings. This may be true, but what proponents often ignore is how gun control tends to lead to increases in other violent crimes. As is often the case, politicians try to legislate to prevent one problem, but end up creating half-a-dozen new ones in the process.

Since Australia enacted its landmark gun control legislation in 1996, gun-related homicides have declined, but almost every other sort of violent crime has increased. While the homicide rate fell from 1.9 per 100,000 persons to 1.3 from 1996 to 2007, assaults increased from 623 per 100,000 persons to 840 during that same time ? a 35 percent jump. The sexual assault rate likewise increased from 78 per 100,000 persons to 94 ? a 21 percent jump. In other words, for every 0.6 person out of 100,000 who did not fall victim to a homicide, 217 suffered from a violent assault, and another 16 suffered from sexual assault. While it?s impossible to know how much of this shift was the result of the 1996 laws, it is not exactly an overwhelming endorsement of Australia?s gun control regime.

HUNEYCUTT: Gun control lessons from Prohibition - Washington Times

?[Those] who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.? - Ben motherfucking Franklin

I'd much prefer to be the victim of an assault by some drunk outside a pub than to be shot by him. :2 cents:

Please tell us exactly where one can buy this armor piercing ammo.

and you have that right and i respect that. but i'm not the gfyer trying to poke holes in the US constitution looking outside in.

What wow? You expect that a person who filmed himself murdering people might not be crazy?

"I kneel and ask forgiveness for Serbia for the crime committed in Srebrenica," Tadic's successor Tomislav Nikolic said in 2013.

20 years later Serbs still refuse to call Srebrenica genocide

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o god :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh
notice how they say clan...a clan is like 3-10 people LOL its not like the bloods and cripps in the USA a clan does not really have "turf" and the geo locations in their names are just where they are from LOL

its amusing that I know most of these people, the biggest "gang" on the list is 10 people strong and they are dead, the police shot them, literally...

surcin clan-zoran sijan former kickboxing buddy of mine=dead
zemun clan-I Know most of them,lived in the same block, the biggest gang serbia ever had, 10 people strong and maybe 2 are still alive and 0 are free, they had no street presence at all, they just imported coke and killed off rivals
saric gang-all in prison they got 40 years
vozdovac-LOL 3-4 dudes who import weed from albania and buy coke from saric :1orglaugh
zvezdara-I do not know them so this speaks volumes...ill go bitch slap them around if you wish?
dorcol group-if you had a time machine and went back to the 90-s LOL they are all RIP
karaburma-LOL I did not know they had a clan :1orglaugh
rumski gang?!?!?!?!? wtf? first time I ever heard of them and I Know everybody LOL
pecas gang-LOL peconi dude is a money launderer, if he does some coke importing I would not be surprised
arkan was killed like 20 years ago LOL
elez group LOL like 3 people importing coke
zemun clan you mentioned already LOL
kekas group actually operate in brazil but don't let that stand in your way
saric gang again? LOL dude got 40 years
serbian brotherhood??? sounds like a bunch of fags IMO

pink panther is from montenegro...they do high speed jewelry heists...they are not even a gang they do not even have a structure...

dude gangs in the USA have 1000-s of members...they have turf....there is no such thing in my country we have 0 gangs...we have drug dealers but this is not a gang LOL...ok if 3-4 guys selling weed or coke is a gang then LOL

and no I am not a criminal, we are a small country I happen to know lots of politicians, bankers and other criminals as well :1orglaugh

serbia is much safer than the USA...before the war the US stoked in our country we were ridiculously safe...

dude...just stop ok? :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

educate yourself on what the 3rd world really is ok? :2 cents::2 cents::2 cents:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_World

you will find my map there LOL...

I was just amazed he posted that, what a tool :1orglaugh

I mean you must be REALLY dumb to post that map, amazingly dumb :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

A map where Sweden is "3d world" did not give him a hint that this might not be the relevant map :1orglaugh

He did it again! :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

http://orig10.deviantart.net/29db/f/...es-d4zpcje.jpg

its funny he should say that, during the war he exclaimed that for every killed serb they would kill 100 muslims...he was not in power back then but its hypocritical to the max that he would say that...

still, serbia did not take part in the war at all, and the USA killed millions of asians LOL but it was over a 20 year period so its all kosher :thumbsup

so the 8.000 people killed in srebrenica by para-military is obviously worse than the millions upon millions of asians killed by the official US military, you make such a valid point :thumbsup

dynamo the master of making a good point :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

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you stupid fuck LOL

I don't know why people are arguing in this thread. Guns = violence. Period. Target practice? OK. So I can better use my weapon to.....kill something (or hit it with a bullet).

Guns = violence. America (and the world?) has become desensitized by violence on TV, video games, the news, constant, never-ending fear via terrorism, etc. Show a nipple and America loses its' mind but watch any American TV drama and it's ALL about guns, blood, death, violence.

This is not coincidence it is manipulation and well planned propaganda to soften the American population so we won't have protests like we did in the sixties. Corporations HATE 'speed bumps' - anything that gets in their way of doing whatever they want. Guns, violence, drugs, unrest, silly discussions about abortion, gay marriage and immigrants - ANYTHING but mass protests to stop the economic ball rolling.

Why can't we all agree on these simple, basic (non-partisan) truths?

you must have spilled your liquor bottle in your bomb crater today, just scoop as much up as you can for tomorrow and try to sleep off your drunken stupor, maybe even not have any nightmares about the genocide you and your komrades committed and still refuse to admit.

Godwin's law will be invoked in this thread any minute, I can feel it in my bones :2 cents:

do you understand what your posting is propaganda?

info contradicts itself saying its impossible to correlate the trends. i would simply re-assert that drugs have a demand that guns would never match up to. the fact that there are no submachine-gun mass murders is solid evidence the government controls the guns it wants to control.

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The guns will always be out there, they've been manufacture in mass for the public since the civil war and there is nothing you or I or the government can do. They are in grandpas attic, a crazy persons pocket, a criminals waistband and a stand up citizens holster.

Crazy people and criminals are never going away either and they are apart of nature in the same way a shark or a bear is.. The will kill and that has nothing to do with guns. They will use swords, knives, poison, small round candy and cars, busses and explosives to tear at society. It's just up to us to be prepared as civil as possible for these creatures of nature.

i've made up my mind that banning guns completely misses the problem. and i've made up my mind that if we don't remember the past, we're doomed to repeat it.

and i've made up my mind that i'm open to quelling the violence in America, not making it worse by avoiding the real reasons for it.

you shouldn't make assumptions about what i have made up my mind about simply because i post a food for fucking thought article on why banning guns could very well mimic the clusterfuck of banning liquor combined with the evidence from elsewhere that it does not address the underlying factors of violence in society, as evidenced by Aus increase in other violent crimes.

How about admitting that you made a major fool out of yourself with that map, because if you still not see it - you would make an enormous fool out of yourself. Now it is just a major fool.

Amazing, a dude post Cold war alliances map and thinks that he is proving current 3d world terminology and what countries rank as 3d world and what not.
A map that has Sweden as 3d world and Zimbabwe as 1st world does not give him a hint that this may be completely irrelevant map! :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

How is that even possible? :helpme:1orglaugh

No, It was predictable.
The race war set up by the mainstream white house controlled media by the current Obama administration... claims yet more victims.

If the government take away our guns that's like Hitler burning books. There you go ... :upsidedow

I don't recall anyone around here defending the Vietnam War policy. The Korean War was a UN war technically. Both Vietnam and Korea were part of the cold-war between the US Russia and China -- all 3 share the blame (or blame each other).

As far as Japan and WW2. The Japanese Asian attacked the Manchurian Chinese Asian and the Korean Asian and the Filipino Asian as well as any other Indochina Asian that they could attack to expand their Empire. The Japanese Asian killed more Asians than the US did in WW2. :2 cents:

The Japanese Empire also started hostilities with the USA by attacking the US Fleet at Perl Harbor while everyone was sleeping on Sunday morning.

Fortunately 9/11 has not resulted in WW3 (yet).

None of this has anything to do with the two news reporters that were shot and killed today.
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Oh, and in the USA many get wasted and party with alcohol, drugs and GUNS. There is a body count every weekend. But that is not the case here so that is really immaterial. This is another isolated nut-case that had a firearm to kill with.

If he wasn't a nut-case he would have been more rational and not pulled the trigger. If you took away all the firearms in the US killers would find other ways to kill. In 15 seconds a man with 2 combat knives could kill 2 civilians. If you think about it police make no effort to disarm people threatening them with a knife they just shoot them. So, would a pedestrian disarm a man wielding a knife? Most would just run. So the argument that if he hadn't had a gun in the first place no one would have died ( in this case ) is meaningless.

This was a double homicide not a mass killing and if it been 3 street people in Chicago no one would even give a fuck. It would not have made the national news :2 cents:

This just shows you have no idea and are most likely American as they are the only nationality that would twist the numbers like that.
Gun control works, anyone who wants a gun in Australia can get one, its just hard for the would be criminals or those with mental health issues, or those who need one "today" so they can use it... It certainly does not stop gun crime but it does stop the vast majority of it.

The carrying of a hand gun, having one for "protection", having one for the house, one for the car and one for the wife.. was NEVER legal here, that's just USA stupidity.

The situation you have in the USA is insane why anyone there defends guns at all is mind-blowing literary
And sadly from an outsider looking in, it seems that the USA is unfolding in to civil war again, slowly but surly the seeds are being sewn.

Not one single American gives one single shit that our Constitution does not coincide with your elitist view.

I thought this was the thread about the 2 journalists shot... but it appears to be about Serbia and the Cold War....

Anyway... just saw the video that the shooter filmed... terrible thing to do; terrible way to go; terrible loss for their families...The good part for the US is one crazy armed negro less on the streets... what a fucking disgusting narcicistic psychopath...

Fucking serbian cockgoblers talkin shit about my country? Send them few more bombs asap :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

“As for Dylann Roof? You (deleted)! You want a race war (deleted)? BRING IT THEN YOU WHITE …(deleted)!!!” - Vester Flanagan

I hope a race war can be averted

Well played sir, well played :1orglaugh

that lady got shot in the back they were interviewing

I completely made that up. However, a quick search tells me it seems to be easy enough to buy:

armor piercing bullets For Sale ? Buy armor piercing bullets Online at GunBroker.com
Armor Piercing Ammunition

This article, from February of this year, discusses the ATF trying to block surplus armor piercing ammunition sales.

http://www.news-leader.com/story/new...lets/23816437/

Here is another article from March:

What You Need to Know About the Armor-Piercing Bullet Controversy - Bloomberg Business

And then society questions why our local police wants surplus armored vehicles from the military.

That's because society is right to question the legitimacy of police militarization. How many cops have died from armor piercing bullets?

First of all, this guy wasn't crazy he Just wanted to make a name for himself by doing something he KNEW would make people know and remember his name .

He had this ALL planned out for a long time. Had his real car parked at airport for month and was using rental car etc...

A Crazy guy doesn't put a camera exactly where he knows it is catching all the action. he just goes ballistic and starts shooting. This guy just wanted to do extreme SHOCK by filming it and posting it on FB and Twitter he didn't care who saw it your sons, daughters, etc... . he's a piece of shit and GOOD RIDDANCE hes gone. Punk took pussies way out.

Yes I don't doubt that a country where people are riding donkey carts around is generally safer than the US unless you happen to run into an ethnic cleansing. Like I said, you can't compare them. Two very different countries with different demographics.

And lets not forget the thread where you and several others have said that the area would be better off if the ethnic cleansing was allowed to continue. basically advocating not just murder but genocide. yep, you are a peaceful people.

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So we got it wrong, we should have armed everyone, what were we thinking?

Hmmm

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Nup, looks like we got it right :thumbsup

i couldn't give a shit if y'all got it right or wrong. i'm not the one looking down my nose at your Constitution. I provided that article as food for thought re: the potential problems of banning shit based on, you know, banning shit. i didn't post it as if i give a shit about guns in australia, because i do not.

The sooner something is done the better. These stories are horrific to continually read :2 cents: